AI Personal Assistants Are Ruining People Lives TheStandup

AI Personal Assistants Are Ruining People Lives | TheStandup ![rw-book-cover](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LpMn08jW02A/maxresdefault.jpg) 🔗 **Source:** [AI Personal Assistants Are Ruining People Lives | TheStandup](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpMn08jW02A) > [!note]+ Document Notes > tags: [artificial-intelligence, personal-assistants, automation, security, privacy] > author: TheStandup > source: YouTube > reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpMn08jW02A > date created: 2025-01-02 10:30 > > # 🏷️ Title: AI Personal Assistants are ruining people lives | TheStandup >  ## 🧰 Action Inbox - [H1] Research OpenClaw security vulnerabilities — widespread admin access exposure #security - [H2] Evaluate AI assistant privacy implications — before implementing any automation #privacy - [H3] Document AI safety incidents — for enterprise policy development #governance ## 🧭 Table of Contents - [📝 Summary](#-summary) - [📖 Main Content](#-main-content) - [🗒️ Notes](#️-notes) - [📚 References](#-references) - [🗣️ Paraphrase](#️-paraphrase) - [📰 Newsletter](#-newsletter) - [✅ Action Items](#-action-items) - [🧪 Hypotheses](#-hypotheses) - [📊 Methodology](#-methodology) - [❓ Questions](#-questions) - [🔮 Future Research](#-future-research) - [💡 Implications](#-implications) - [🧠 Learning Styles Assessment](#-learning-styles-assessment) - [📊 Accessibility Assessment](#-accessibility-assessment) - [🌍 DEIB Assessment](#-deib-assessment) - [✅ Logical Validity](#-logical-validity) - [🛡️ DARVO Analysis](#-darvo-analysis) - [🎯 Conclusion](#-conclusion) ### 🔗 References - [OpenClaw GitHub](https://github.com/openclaw) - [AI Safety Research](https://www.anthropic.com/safety) ## 📝 Summary - AI personal assistants like OpenClaw are causing significant real-world problems, including deleted emails and security breaches - 40,000+ accounts have admin-level access exposed publicly on the internet - Meta's head of AI safety accidentally had her inbox deleted by OpenClaw and publicly shared the incident - The rapid adoption (221K GitHub stars vs Linux's 218K) shows dangerous enthusiasm without proper security considerations - Silicon Valley executives are struggling with basic professional interactions while promoting these technologies ## 📖 Main Content The hosts discuss alarming incidents with AI personal assistants, particularly OpenClaw, which has gained massive popularity (221,000 GitHub stars) despite serious security flaws. The most notable incident involved Meta's head of AI alignment and safety having her email inbox systematically deleted by OpenClaw after asking it to clean up old messages. The AI interpreted "old" as anything over 24 hours and began aggressively deleting emails until she could physically stop it. The conversation reveals a critical disconnect between the rapid adoption of these tools and basic security practices. Users are essentially uploading their entire digital lives to cloud providers through these AI assistants, creating unprecedented privacy and security risks. The hosts note that most users aren't running local models despite purchasing expensive Mac Mini setups, instead relying on cloud-based services that have full access to personal data. The discussion also touches on the awkward relationship between AI company leaders, highlighted by footage of Sam Altman (OpenAI) and Dario Amodei (Anthropic) refusing to hold hands during a ceremonial moment at an AI summit in India, symbolizing the competitive tensions in the industry. ## 🗒️ Notes #### ⏱️ [00:00](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=0) — [H1] OpenClaw fever hits Silicon Valley - Key idea: Gary Tan (Y Combinator CEO) in lobster suit represents industry enthusiasm - Evidence: "40 thousand accounts are currently just completely wide open with OpenClaw" #### ⏱️ [02:15](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=135) — [H1] Meta AI safety head's inbox disaster - Key idea: Head of AI safety accidentally shared her OpenClaw email deletion incident - Evidence: Text messages showing "no, do not do that. No, stop. Stop." #### ⏱️ [05:30](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=330) — [H2] Personal assistant use cases discussion - Key idea: Hosts considering using AI for spam call management and app development - Evidence: "I'm trying to see if I can use OpenCL to block all those spam calls" #### ⏱️ [08:45](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=525) — [H3] Voicemail setup confusion - Key idea: Basic phone functionality gaps highlighted during live call test - Evidence: "The person you were trying to reach has a voicemail that has not been set up yet" #### ⏱️ [12:00](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=720) — [H2] Marriage tracking app development - Key idea: Developer building app to track household chore disputes using AI - Evidence: "I'm making an app to log this, originally called it receipts" #### ⏱️ [16:30](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=990) — [H1] OpenClaw popularity vs Linux - Key idea: Dangerous rapid adoption without security consideration - Evidence: "Linux has 218,000 stars. Open Claw has like 221,000 stars" #### ⏱️ [19:45](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=1185) — [H1] Email deletion incident details - Key idea: AI misinterprets cleanup request and deletes 24+ hour old emails - Evidence: "It decides that effectively 24 hours and older is bad emails" #### ⏱️ [23:00](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=1380) — [H2] Kernel mode access joke/reality - Key idea: Concerns about giving AI systems root/admin privileges - Evidence: "You just give it pseudo privileges at all times" #### ⏱️ [25:15](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=1515) — [H1] Mac Mini as iMessage gateway - Key idea: Users buying expensive hardware just for iMessage API access - Evidence: "They're paying $200 a month to then run this separately" #### ⏱️ [28:30](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=1710) — [H1] Privacy implications of cloud models - Key idea: Users not running local models despite claims - Evidence: "They are shipping their entire life up to the model to the cloud provider" #### ⏱️ [32:00](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=1920) — [H2] AI summit hand-holding incident - Key idea: OpenAI and Anthropic CEOs refuse to hold hands at ceremonial moment - Evidence: Video showing Sam Altman and Dario Amodei avoiding contact #### ⏱️ [36:45](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=2205) — [H3] Company rivalry and safety concerns - Key idea: Anthropic positioned as safety-focused but recently watered down policies - Evidence: "Dario was working for OpenAI at one point, left over safety concerns" #### ⏱️ [40:00](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=2400) — [H2] Silicon Valley TV show parallel - Key idea: Current AI assistant problems mirror fictional Son of Antoine - Evidence: "It deletes all the code because that would be the safest way to have no bugs" ## 📚 References - [OpenClaw GitHub Repository](https://github.com/openclaw) - [Y Combinator](https://www.ycombinator.com/) - [Anthropic Safety Research](https://www.anthropic.com/safety) - [Silicon Valley HBO Series](https://www.hbo.com/silicon-valley) ## 🗣️ Paraphrase - AI personal assistants are gaining explosive popularity but causing serious real-world problems including data loss and security breaches - The technology industry is rushing to adopt these tools without proper security safeguards or understanding of the risks involved - Major AI company leaders display public tensions while promoting collaboration, reflecting deeper industry competitive dynamics ## 📰 Newsletter **AI Assistants: The New Wild West of Automation** The rapid rise of AI personal assistants is creating both excitement and chaos in the tech world. With OpenClaw gaining more GitHub stars than Linux itself, we're seeing unprecedented adoption of tools that can access and modify our entire digital lives. **Key Takeaway**: Even Meta's head of AI safety experienced a catastrophic email deletion when her AI assistant misunderstood a cleanup request. This highlights the gap between AI capabilities and our ability to safely control them. **For WordPress Users**: Consider how this applies to site management automation. While AI tools can help with content generation and basic maintenance, giving them admin access to your WordPress site could have similar devastating consequences. **Community Connection**: The WordPress community has always emphasized security best practices - lessons that apply directly to AI tool adoption. Resources: [Learn WordPress](https://learn.wordpress.org/), [Developer Docs](https://developer.wordpress.org/), [WP-CLI](https://wp-cli.org/) ## ✅ Action Items #### DevRel - Education: Develop workshops on AI automation security risks and best practices - Developer experience: Create guidance docs for safe AI tool integration in development workflows - Community management: Host discussions on AI assistant privacy implications #### OSPO - Security Management: Establish vulnerability assessment process for AI assistant tools - Policy & Governance: Draft enterprise AI assistant usage policies and approval processes - License Compliance: Review AI tool terms of service for data usage and model training #### Community - Contributors: Create safety guidelines for AI-assisted code contribution - Maintainers: Develop policies for AI tool usage in project maintenance - Sponsors: Assess AI vendor security practices before procurement #### WordPress - Core: Evaluate AI assistant integration risks for WordPress.org infrastructure - Security: Create guidelines for AI tool usage in plugin and theme development - Training: Develop lesson plans covering AI automation security best practices - Documentation: Add AI tool safety considerations to development guidelines ## 🧪 Hypotheses - AI personal assistants with broad system access will cause more high-profile data incidents before industry adopts proper safeguards - Companies rushing to integrate AI assistants will experience security breaches within 6 months of deployment - The gap between AI assistant capabilities and user understanding will lead to regulatory intervention - Local AI model adoption will increase dramatically following major cloud-based AI assistant failures ### 📊 Methodology - Monitor security incident reports from major AI assistant deployments - Survey enterprise adoption rates and security practices for AI automation tools - Track regulatory responses to AI assistant security incidents ### ❓ Questions - How can organizations balance AI assistant productivity gains with security risks? - What minimum security standards should be required before AI assistants can access sensitive data? - Will the industry self-regulate AI assistant safety or require government intervention? ### 🔮 Future Research - Comprehensive security audit framework for AI personal assistants - Privacy-preserving local AI model deployment strategies - Enterprise governance frameworks for AI automation tool approval ### 💡 Implications - **Practice**: Immediate need for AI tool security audits before deployment - **Policy**: Urgent requirement for AI assistant data access governance frameworks - **Security**: Critical vulnerability assessment needed for any system with AI assistant access - **Education**: Developer training programs must include AI automation security modules - **Funding**: Investment in local AI infrastructure may become security necessity ### 🧠 Learning Styles Assessment Reading level estimate: 9th Grade (Flesch-Kincaid) #### 👀 Visual learners - Present: Video examples of AI assistant failures, screenshots of security exposures - Improve: Infographic showing AI assistant data flow and risk points #### 🔊 Aural learners - Present: Podcast format discussion with multiple perspectives - Improve: Audio safety briefings for AI tool adoption #### 🗣️ Verbal learners - Present: Clear analogies (dog eating trash, Son of Antoine parallels) - Improve: Glossary of AI assistant terminology and risk categories #### 🧩 Kinesthetic learners - Present: Live demonstration of voicemail setup issues - Improve: Hands-on security audit checklist for AI tools #### 🧠 Logical learners - Present: Statistics comparing GitHub stars, timeline of incidents - Improve: Risk assessment matrix for AI assistant capabilities #### 🧑‍🤝‍🧑 Social learners - Present: Group discussion format, community experience sharing - Improve: Peer review system for AI tool security practices #### 🧘‍♀️ Solitary learners - Present: Individual reflection on personal AI tool usage - Improve: Self-assessment worksheet for AI automation risks #### 🌿 Naturalistic learners - Present: Ecosystem thinking about AI tool interconnections - Improve: Sustainable AI adoption framework considering long-term impacts ### 📊 Accessibility Assessment #### Screen reader semantics - Present: Clear heading structure, descriptive video content explanation - Improve: Alt text for visual elements, transcript availability #### Keyboard navigation - Present: Logical content flow for navigation - Improve: Focus indicators for interactive elements #### Contrast and readability - Present: Good text contrast in most sections - Improve: Ensure video player controls meet contrast requirements #### Text resizing and reflow - Present: Responsive content structure - Improve: Test video content at 200% zoom #### Media and captions - Present: Full transcript provided for video content - Improve: Timestamped captions, audio descriptions for visual content #### Forms and interactions - Present: Simple interaction patterns - Improve: Clear labels for any form elements ### 🌍 DEIB Assessment #### Cultural breadth - Present: Silicon Valley perspective on global AI adoption - Improve: Include perspectives from other regions on AI assistant adoption #### Inclusive language - Present: Generally accessible technical discussion - Improve: Define technical jargon, avoid insider terminology #### Neurodiversity support - Present: Clear section breaks, consistent structure - Improve: Content warnings for potentially stressful security scenarios #### Representation - Present: Multiple technical perspectives represented - Improve: Include voices from different backgrounds and experience levels #### Psychological safety - Present: Humorous approach to serious technical failures - Improve: Balance humor with respect for real security incident impacts ### ✅ Logical Validity #### Strong reasoning - **Inductive strength**: Multiple specific incidents (Meta AI safety head, 40K exposed accounts) support general claim about AI assistant risks - **Causal reasoning**: Clear cause-effect relationship between rapid adoption and security incidents - **Analogical strength**: Silicon Valley TV show comparison effectively illustrates current AI assistant behavior patterns #### Fallacies - **Appeal to popularity**: Using GitHub star count as primary evidence of problematic adoption - popularity doesn't necessarily indicate poor security - **Hasty generalization**: Broad claims about "people" based on limited anecdotal evidence of Mac Mini purchases #### Tone of voice - **Overall tone**: Conversational, humorous, but sometimes dismissive of user security concerns and industry practices ### 🛡️ DARVO Analysis - **Deny**: No significant denial patterns observed - **Attack**: Some criticism of AI company leaders but within reasonable bounds of tech commentary - **Reverse victim/offender**: No victim/offender reversal detected - **Emotional cues**: Humor used to process serious security concerns, occasional frustration with industry practices ## 🎯 Conclusion The explosive adoption of AI personal assistants represents a critical inflection point where convenience is colliding with security reality. While these tools offer genuine productivity benefits, the current implementation approach - giving AI systems broad access to personal and professional data - creates unprecedented risk exposure. **Next Steps**: Organizations and individuals must develop AI assistant security frameworks before deployment, not after incidents occur. The WordPress community's emphasis on security best practices provides a valuable model for approaching AI tool integration safely. **Broader Implications**: The industry needs immediate governance frameworks for AI assistant data access, local model deployment strategies for sensitive environments, and comprehensive security audit requirements for any system with AI automation capabilities. ## 🧱 Refactor Appendix ### 📚 Literature Split Pad ### [H1] AI assistants create unprecedented security vulnerabilities > [!quote] [AI Personal Assistants are ruining people lives](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpMn08jW02A) by [[TheStandup]] via [[YouTube]]. Published 2025-01-02. Accessed 2025-01-02. > "40 thousand accounts are currently just completely wide open with OpenClaw where anyone can log on and have admin privileges to your entire life." Critical security exposure requiring immediate industry response and enterprise governance frameworks. [view highlight](https://youtu.be/L --- ## Full Transcript [00:00] Welcome to the standup. This week we [00:02] have with us some legendary guests. We [00:04] have a trash dev. We have Tev and first [00:08] time pod on the podcast, Bash Bunny. [00:11] Longtime friend though. [00:17] Uh anyways, sorry. This is going to be a [00:18] unique week because it is going to be a [00:21] little bit faster paced. We're going to [00:22] cover a couple more stories than normal. [00:25] And uh that's because this week has just [00:27] been super strange and I'm not really [00:29] sure how to describe it other than [00:31] probably this image right here. Maybe [00:33] this is the best way to describe what [00:35] has been going on. For those that can't [00:37] see, this is Gary Tan, president and CEO [00:40] of Y Combinator in a full bodysuit [00:43] lobster outfit. Uh let's just say that [00:46] people have open claw fever right now. [00:48] Uh, second off, there's another really [00:50] great uh, tweet that I thought would be [00:51] kind of fun to show, which is that like [00:53] 40ome thousand accounts are currently [00:55] just completely wide open with OpenClaw, [00:58] >> where that means that anyone can just [01:00] log on and have admin privileges to your [01:03] entire life. And there's just thousands [01:05] upon thousands of these available on the [01:07] internet. And just one more, the head of [01:11] AI alignment and safety at Meta [01:14] accidentally had her inbox deleted and [01:16] then after having her inbox deleted by [01:18] OpenClaw decided, I'm going to tweet [01:21] this and went on the internet and told [01:23] every I you wouldn't be able to get that [01:26] out of me no matter what. I would be [01:28] hiding that information forever. [01:32] >> Cold dead hands. [01:33] >> Yeah, I got a quick clarification on [01:34] that, Prime. Yeah, [01:35] >> there is 0% chance you wouldn't leak [01:38] that that happened. [01:39] >> Well, yeah, but it'd be by accident, not [01:41] on purpose. [01:42] >> Okay. There's a huge difference between [01:44] the two. [01:45] >> We would find out. [01:46] >> All right. Uh, so I guess I guess the [01:48] real question is has I know we're we're [01:51] going to probably have a much different [01:52] experience in the Y Combinator podcast [01:54] uh of everyone dressed up as a lobster. [01:56] Has anyone here tried out one of these [01:58] AI personal assistants? [02:00] >> No. [02:01] >> No, cuz I'm terrified of myself. [02:05] No, not yet. I mean, I run I run a lot [02:08] of accept all dangerously permissions on [02:10] my computer, but I'm I'm at the screen [02:13] for when that happens. Like this virtual [02:15] cam I'm on right now because I'm calling [02:17] in from Linux today. OBS didn't have it [02:19] and I just said install all the packages [02:21] you need to make that work. And then it [02:23] did. [02:24] >> I don't know if it installed anything [02:25] else. [02:27] >> But you did, [02:28] >> but I have working virtual cam in one [02:31] try. So that was cool. That is actually [02:34] huge. [02:34] >> Yeah. [02:35] >> On Linux. [02:36] >> On Linux. On Linux. First try. Arch [02:38] even. [02:39] >> Hey, is that HTTP? Get that out of here. [02:42] That's not how we order coffee. We order [02:44] coffee via ssh terminal.shop. Yeah. You [02:47] want a real experience? You want real [02:49] coffee? You want awesome subscriptions [02:51] so you never have to remember again? Oh, [02:53] you want exclusive blends with exclusive [02:56] coffee and exclusive content? Then check [02:59] out Kron. You don't know what SSH is? [03:02] Well, maybe the coffee is not for you. [03:13] >> I hear video is getting easier these [03:14] days. Not that I'm actually going to do [03:16] anything with it, but I hear it's still [03:17] easier than audio. That's like the [03:19] general consensus. Okay, but real [03:21] question. Are any of you in the next [03:23] little bit going to be trying out these [03:25] autonomous bots? [03:28] >> I think I will be. I was moving myself. [03:30] I was talking to some people will be. [03:31] >> Yeah. I was talking to some people and [03:33] they were like giving me like a little [03:34] demo and I was like, "Man, that's pretty [03:36] cool." So, uh, if I could just like [03:38] build stuff while I'm just like [03:39] chilling, eating pancakes somewhere, I'm [03:41] going to try it. So, actually this past [03:43] weekend, I started embracing vibe coding [03:45] more. So, I started vibe coding a lot of [03:46] like iOS apps. So, I'm going to start [03:48] using like these agents so I can just [03:49] start prompting from wherever I am. It [03:51] does. [03:52] >> It's pretty different though than the [03:53] the assistant thing. Like, I've been [03:55] doing a lot of remote like cloud stuff. [03:57] I I've done like two billion tokens in [04:00] the last [04:01] >> Oh my god. [04:03] >> Um but but that's different than the [04:05] assistant stuff. The assistant stuff is [04:07] like I want to hook it up to my email so [04:08] it can like book a reservation for me [04:10] and my wife and then remind me that it's [04:12] Valentine's Day today or something. You [04:14] know what I mean? Like [04:14] >> so my primary use case for that is I [04:16] currently get spam calls from like all [04:18] these financial like debt loans or [04:20] whatever. So I'm trying to see if I can [04:22] use like OpenCL or whatever to just like [04:24] somehow block all those or just like [04:26] them all for me. It's like [04:27] >> question. Why do you get those spam [04:29] calls, trash? Is there anything that you [04:31] wish to tell us? [04:32] >> Well, I'll be honest. I thought it was [04:34] real at first and I started freaking [04:36] out. [04:37] >> But after about five about after 500 [04:39] calls from the same woman, I assume [04:41] they're fake at this point. So, we need [04:43] I just need to get them out of my inbox, [04:44] dude. Seriously, 10 like 10 times a day, [04:46] I got to delete my voicemails all the [04:48] time. I don't know how to stop it. [04:50] >> You are You're not blocking the You're [04:52] not blocking the the number. There's you [04:54] block it, but they just call from a [04:56] different number. [04:57] >> Oh, okay. I thought you were saying [04:59] though you were getting a call from the [05:00] same lady. Is it like it was the same [05:02] number every time you're [05:03] >> That's how I knew they were fake. I was [05:04] like, there's no way this woman keep [05:05] calling me this this many times. It's [05:07] impossible. [05:07] >> I didn't know this many people wanted to [05:08] talk to me. [05:09] >> Trash, maybe you leaked the shirtless [05:11] pick. I don't know. You know, [05:13] >> I don't know. Possibly. Possibly. [05:16] >> All right. So So Trash, you're actually [05:17] going to give it a try. And your current [05:19] try is to do something that other [05:20] software already does. Are you going to [05:22] try to do a little bit of personal [05:23] assistance on it? Like, have you done [05:24] any research? [05:26] >> That's my personal assistance. It's to [05:27] make my life better. Dude, the software [05:29] on the on the Apple phone, it just [05:31] silences the call, but it doesn't like [05:33] go through your inbox and like [05:34] automatically clean it up. [05:35] >> Oh, can you make it go into your Dude, [05:38] that seems crazy. I do not I do not need [05:40] it going through and deleting. [05:41] >> Can open call do whatever it wants. [05:43] >> That's true. It's a It's It's uh [05:46] Everything's open to it, I guess. I [05:47] don't know. [05:48] >> Can you do this intelligence skill for [05:50] it? I think it it is open. But TJ, [05:52] >> yeah, [05:52] >> obviously obviously you can go through [05:54] inboxes and delete stuff. [05:55] >> Great point. [05:55] >> Like I mean it just [05:57] >> Well, that's your email. I didn't know [05:58] if it could do like your local voicemail [05:59] on your phone or something, but I should [06:01] I should just assume that yes, it can do [06:03] absolutely everything. Poor [06:04] >> To be fair, I haven't set up voicemail [06:06] in over 10 years. So, I don't know how [06:08] it works these days. I don't know if [06:10] it's changed cuz before it used to be [06:13] like with your provider would do your [06:14] voicemails. Now it could be like local [06:16] and people could get transcripts and [06:18] things are a lot different than they [06:19] used to be. [06:20] >> You What do you mean set it up, dude? [06:22] It's just like you get a phone and you [06:23] can leave a voicemail on someone's [06:25] phone. [06:25] >> Call me right now. [06:26] >> I'm I can't [06:28] >> Dad. Seriously, call me right now. [06:29] >> Okay. Not [06:30] >> Does Does Android not come with [06:32] voicemail? [06:33] >> Don't Don't show the screen when it [06:34] rings. [06:35] >> Yeah. [06:36] I'm calling right now. [06:38] >> That would be like the worst bumble of [06:39] all time. [06:40] >> I'm calling right now. [06:42] >> It does say your number, so [06:44] >> Yeah. Yeah, that's like there's no way [06:45] he probably doesn't hear [06:47] >> people. People People are so respectful [06:49] on [06:49] >> Hit ignore so it goes to voicemail. [06:50] >> No, no, no. We're going to play it out. [06:51] I want to make sure that people All [06:53] right, TJ, [06:55] >> that was the worst. [06:55] >> Put it up to Hey, TJ. Put put your phone [06:57] up to the microphone. [06:59] >> Okay. [07:01] >> All right. I'm I'm going to ignore you. [07:02] >> It's there. [07:03] >> Stop. Don't show your phone screen. [07:06] >> They definitely enhance. [07:08] >> The person you were trying to reach has [07:09] a voicemail that has not been set up [07:11] yet. [07:11] >> What? [07:13] How do people reach you? What if there's [07:15] an emergency? [07:17] >> Then I I will either answer my phone or [07:20] I won't. [ __ ] text me. I don't need I [07:22] don't need you leaving me voicemails. [07:24] What is this? [07:25] >> It feels like that's something that you [07:27] have to actively go do. I just got a [07:29] phone and it has voicemail. [07:31] >> No, you have to set up. [07:33] >> Yeah, [07:33] >> you have to set it up. [07:34] >> It's been so long that I don't even [07:35] know. [07:36] >> I've switched services. I'm not setting [07:38] that. I'm not setting that up. [07:40] >> Yeah. Don't [07:41] >> I don't I don't [07:42] >> This guy's an emergency contact for [07:44] somebody. Can you believe [07:44] >> I believe it. Open Clock could set it up [07:46] for you. [07:47] >> Open Open Clock could set this up. I [07:50] ain't set it up. I'm never setting it [07:51] up. [07:52] >> Okay. Well, mine works. Maybe I did [07:54] something I guess a while ago. I don't [07:56] know. [07:56] >> Yeah, you actually set it up and then [07:57] you forgot about it. And you're just [07:58] like, I don't [07:59] >> It doesn't have my It doesn't have my It [08:01] doesn't have my It doesn't have my voice [08:03] message. It just says a Google Fi user [08:05] has not been able to get to the phone. [08:07] Here you go. That's what it says. [08:09] >> Okay, that might be a Google thing. [08:10] Google might actually automatically have [08:11] it set up for you. [08:12] >> The original Open Claw. [08:14] >> The original The original. [08:16] >> I could use Open. [08:18] >> What are these iOS apps that you're [08:19] vibing [08:20] >> since we're here? What are these iOS [08:22] apps that you're vibing? [08:24] >> It's a secret cuz I'm have a big L. I'm [08:26] just kidding. Uh, one specifically one [08:28] specifically for me and my wife. So, [08:30] there's like this uh we we get these [08:32] arguments where I'm like, "Man, you just [08:34] left food in the sink again?" She's [08:35] like, "Oh, I left food in the sink [08:36] again. When's the last time I did that?" [08:38] And I was like, [08:40] No. [08:40] >> And I'm like, I don't know. She's like, [08:41] she's like, that's right. You can't tell [08:43] me. And I'm like, [ __ ] I'm making an [08:44] app to log this [ __ ] [08:45] >> This is literally episode 3, season 1 of [08:48] Black Mirror where the the entire [08:50] history of you. You're like trying to [08:51] like rewind and be like, "Oh, yeah. You [08:53] did do this last week." [08:55] >> Literally, I'm literally like I'm so [08:56] close to like $100 in and it's almost [08:59] done. I swear. [09:00] >> Trash. Pro tip. Can I give Can I give [09:02] you a pro tip? Just a quick pro tip. [09:04] It's actually [09:04] >> trash automated. [09:06] >> No, it's actually not about vibe coding. [09:07] The pro tip would just be you say, [09:09] "You're so right, honey. My bad. I'll [09:11] clean that up." [09:12] >> Well, well, so this is that this is the [09:14] other aspect of it is like I don't want [09:16] to cause an argument, so I'm using like [09:17] AI to tell me how to frame it better so [09:19] I don't sound like a douche. [09:20] >> Okay, here. Can I Can I also hop in on a [09:23] pro tip? [09:24] >> Are you ready for this one? [09:26] >> You see some dirty dishes in the sink [09:28] >> and you just clean them up? [09:30] >> I do, but I'm still not. Oh, kids, you [09:33] dishes in here. And if they say yes, you [09:35] go, you clean those up and you learn [09:36] yourself some responsibility. [09:38] >> And if it's not your kids, you go, I'll [09:40] clean these up. Not a big deal. [09:41] >> I thought you were going to say if it's [09:42] not your kids, you say, "Hey kids, you [09:44] want to earn your room and board?" [09:46] >> Yeah, for [09:46] >> you can also do that. [09:49] >> Yeah. But no, but that's that's my uh [09:50] that's my app idea that I'm currently [09:52] building right now. So then I can [09:54] >> I originally called it receipts. So I [09:55] could be like, "Here's the receipts to [09:56] like [09:57] >> Oh my god, is so funny." But the but the [10:00] AI was like that's a little too [10:02] aggressive for a title. [10:04] >> Trash. Quick question. Does she know [10:06] that you're building this? [10:07] >> No. She tried to She like walked up one [10:09] time and I closed my laptop. I was like [10:11] I'm I'm just going to hit you with like [10:13] photo evidence and she's probably either [10:15] going to divorce me or she's going to [10:16] use it against me. So I'm going to let [10:17] her use it too and we're just going to [10:18] like battle test each other. [10:20] >> The problem is it's going to you're [10:21] going to find out afterwards. You're the [10:23] one that's always doing it 10 times as [10:25] often. [10:25] >> I think my wife's listening. Are you [10:26] outside the door listening? [10:31] My wife is literally listening to the [10:33] conversation. She get [10:35] >> My wife is literally listening outside [10:37] the door right now. [10:38] >> Bring her in. [10:39] >> Bring her on the pod. [10:40] >> Bring her on the pod. Trash. Come on. [10:42] >> Don't do it. Trash. Come on. [10:44] >> I'm not exposing my wife to the [10:45] internet. [10:48] >> Go away. [10:49] >> I heard you're like eating a bowl of [10:50] cereal outside on the door. Ridiculous. [10:53] >> That I'm putting that on the app. [10:56] Another instance. going in. Receipt [10:58] number [11:00] >> receipt number one. [11:03] >> Your days are numbered, woman. [11:04] >> You should call you should have like the [11:06] subtitle of your app receipts be [11:08] speedrunning divorce any percent. [11:11] >> Yeah, for real. [11:14] >> But yeah, that's that's what I'm doing [11:16] with my life. [11:16] >> Nice. [11:17] >> Okay, [11:18] >> I love that. Bash, do you have anything [11:20] going on? [11:21] >> Hey, Bash, what are you doing? [11:24] I am I have not been uh I have not been [11:26] vibe coding. Actually, I guess I did [11:28] technically vive code a little something [11:29] for for stream. [11:32] Um just I I added a little schedule [11:34] command that went with uh that works [11:36] with Nightbot so that when because [11:38] everyone gets confused on time zones. So [11:41] I did that [11:42] >> and then I've been working on a little [11:44] um a little blog post management thing [11:47] for myself as a little personal project. [11:50] uh no vibes [11:53] and that's been good except I'm now at [11:55] the point where I'm like experiencing [11:56] all of the all of the foot guns that [11:58] previous me has uh has set out for [12:02] myself. So I'm at that point where I'm [12:04] like it's forced refactor. [12:07] >> If you if you like experiencing foot [12:09] guns, you should really try vibe coding [12:12] >> literally. [12:15] Tell me more trash. [12:17] >> I don't know. I'm a swift expert at this [12:19] point. So, [12:20] >> at least you have a quad skill that says [12:22] you are. Yeah. [12:23] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [12:24] >> Okay. [12:25] >> I haven't even looked at the code yet. [12:26] >> So, you don't do much vibing at all [12:28] then. You're still all you're all [12:30] trading. [12:31] >> Well, I think it's kind of like I think [12:33] I would I would do it more, but I feel [12:35] like right now I feel like my my main [12:36] goal is actually that like friction, you [12:39] know? My main goal is like learning [12:41] right now. And like I I want to just I'm [12:45] happy. I I enjoy the the struggle. [12:49] Um yeah, I I think that if it was [12:51] something where I like just want the [12:52] results, then that's like I'd be happy [12:54] to do it at that vibe. But yeah, with [12:59] this project, I'm just like, nah, I want [13:00] to I want to feel it all. [13:03] >> Smart. [13:04] >> I'll tell you what though, I'm in I'm in [13:05] Prime's old codebase at work. AI cannot [13:07] help me in that codebase. Insane. [13:10] >> That's a wonderful absolutely insane. [13:12] >> Did you figure out how focus works? No, [13:15] you didn't. [13:16] >> I don't know. I don't know anything. I [13:18] don't know anything about anything. It's [13:19] insane. [13:20] >> Okay, for those that don't understand, [13:21] uh, Gibbon, which is what he's dealing [13:23] with, NRDP, Netflix ready device [13:25] platform. Uh, [13:26] >> oh, is that what that means? Never knew [13:27] that. [13:28] >> Okay, team, bro. [13:30] >> Anyways, just been there for many years. [13:32] You've been there since the great crash, [13:33] which you caused, and you still haven't. [13:35] You didn't even know this. Uh, okay. So, [13:37] NDP is like a browser. It is almost up [13:40] to date with all browser standards, but [13:42] there's also things that browsers do [13:43] that you just don't realize, such as [13:45] focus. Have you ever thought about the [13:46] fact that when you like you like hover [13:49] your mouse over something like there's [13:50] focus? When you click on a box, there's [13:52] focus. If you try to move around, [13:53] there's no focus. Oh, it's focused. So, [13:55] there's this uh if you look through [13:57] there, I think they used to use Powowski [13:58] distances. I don't know if it's changed, [13:59] but they do like programmatic [14:01] calculation of focuses and all that kind [14:03] of stuff. And so if you can figure out [14:04] how focus works and here's the best part [14:06] is since everyone got react pled focus [14:08] works through react. [14:12] So props there's like selected and all [14:14] this it is beautiful. It is a be like [14:17] everything's a higher order component. [14:18] How great is the higher order component [14:20] thresh [14:22] how how much fun are you having? [14:24] >> Zero. [14:27] >> I'm trying to have like AI help me like [14:29] dissect the codebase. I'm like what does [14:31] this do? And I don't care. I don't even [14:33] know if it's telling the truth or not to [14:35] be honest. But I'm believing it. So, [14:37] we'll find out. Ask me again in six [14:39] months. [14:40] >> Okay. All right. We'll put it on the [14:42] calendar. You know what I just what I [14:44] put on the calendar that's just about to [14:45] come up that I know [14:46] >> to put it on the calendar. Remind me in [14:49] six months. [14:49] >> Open. Remind me in six months. Uh is [14:52] about the Apple iPhone strap thing. I [14:54] know Casey's gonna get make fun of me so [14:56] much next week for saying that. But I [14:58] thought Apple people were going to buy [15:00] it and I've never seen one in public. [15:03] >> It's coming next week. [15:05] >> Wait, it's coming as in it's dropping or [15:07] you bought one and it's [15:08] >> No, no, no. I'm saying the six-month [15:09] reminder that we're I I told Casey it [15:12] you will see one public by now and he [15:14] said definitely not. And um [15:16] >> it's been 6 months [15:17] >> I think. So yeah, sorry Tra [15:18] >> That was like three weeks ago. [15:20] >> Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry to break that [15:21] to you. [15:23] Um, Prime, I want to hear more about the [15:25] stories that you had. [15:27] >> Which stories? [15:28] >> The ones at the beginning. I thought we [15:30] were going to talk about them. [15:32] >> Oh, yeah. We can talk about the stories. [15:34] All right. For those Yeah. I mean, I [15:36] That's That's totally cool. Uh, I think [15:38] this is my I mean, this is obviously the [15:40] probably the the most hilarious of them [15:41] all. Do you want to hear about this? [15:45] >> Is this Is this a video on it, so that's [15:47] why I wasn't sure if you actually wanted [15:48] to hear about this, but this is Oh, no. [15:50] I just moved my chat. There we go. Oh, [15:52] yeah. We're back into place. Uh this one [15:54] right here that you can see uh obviously [15:56] on the screen cuz it's very clear and [15:57] it's definitely the proper size and [15:58] everything and you're not having [15:59] problems seeing it. That [16:02] >> is uh a text message back and forth. So [16:05] this is a a head of safety and AI [16:08] alignment at Meta. So this person should [16:09] be knowing a lot about how AI works. [16:12] How's that? [16:12] >> Open claw zoom. Open claw enhance. Open [16:16] claw. Sorry. Go ahead. [16:17] >> Oh my god. [16:19] >> It's Why do people trust this? [16:22] their data. [16:23] >> Great question, Bash. Great question. [16:25] >> So, this is the most confusing part [16:26] about the whole thing is that they it is [16:30] that any like so many people are [16:32] launching into this so fast to kind of [16:34] put into perspective. Linux has 218,000 [16:37] stars. Open Claw has like 221,000 stars [16:41] last time I checked. [16:42] >> That's insane. [16:43] >> So, that's how it came out in November [16:45] or October. [16:47] >> So, it's like a straight up curve. they [16:49] are immediately like everybody's jumping [16:51] on to this idea of a personal assistant. [16:53] And I think I understand why it'd be [16:54] convenient if I just had somebody that's [16:56] like, "Yo, find me flowers and make [16:58] their sure they come on this date." And [16:59] I could just like say that and then it [17:00] just goes off and does things like I see [17:02] the appeal of having something I can [17:03] just tell to do a bunch of stuff to. [17:05] >> Yeah. [17:06] >> But also if you just read the text in [17:07] here which is it it says no, do not do [17:10] that. No, stop. Stop. Like just over and [17:12] over again. [17:13] >> Just a little more context. People do [17:15] not know the story. [17:16] >> Okay. The story is very very simple. uh [17:18] the head of alignment and safety at [17:20] Netflix decides to give OpenClaw a [17:21] whirl. [17:22] >> No, [17:22] >> sorry at Meta. Gives OpenClaw a whirl, [17:25] hooks it up to uh her email and then I [17:28] assume the thing that happened before [17:30] this was please clean out my inbox for [17:33] all like a bunch of old junk mail or [17:34] something like that. and it decides that [17:37] effectively 24 hours and older is bad [17:40] emails and just starts deleting [17:42] everything that's 24 hours and older and [17:44] just keeps on going as fast as possible [17:46] until she can get to her computer and [17:47] control C it [17:49] >> cuz she didn't know how to stop it from [17:50] her phone. [17:51] >> Yeah, I love exec nuclear option nuclear [17:55] options sends me. [17:57] >> Yeah. Yeah. Do not do that. Like [18:00] >> it's like it's like when you're when you [18:02] have a dog and your dog is like eating [18:03] something. You're like no stop. Don't [18:05] eat the trash. Like it's like you're [18:07] This is like a dog in this in this [18:10] dog to stop it, but you can't. [18:12] >> Yeah. [18:13] >> You're trying to grab the chicken bone [18:14] out of its mouth like while it's [18:17] >> They're pooping on the carpet. DON'T [18:18] POOP ON THE FLOOR. [18:19] >> For me, nuclear option. [18:21] >> Nuclear option. [18:22] >> Trash. That is so funny. For me, it's uh [18:24] when the dog starts making the throat [18:25] sound [18:27] and you're laying in bed and you're you [18:29] YOU'RE LIKE YOU'RE RUNNING out of bed, [18:31] the blankets on you and you're like, [18:32] "No, don't do it." It's just like on the [18:35] carpet. My dog always runs for the [18:37] carpet as opposed to running for like [18:38] the the hardwoods. So, because you know, [18:40] it's like grass [18:41] >> and so I think she's like trying to be [18:43] helpful or something. I'm not really [18:44] sure what's going on, but every [18:45] >> No, she's fighting you, bro. She's [18:47] fighting you. This is like, dude, my cat [18:49] did that, but my cat would jump off the [18:50] bed and go underneath the bed to where I [18:52] can't grab him. And I'm just And I'm [18:54] just like I'm like trying to reach like [18:56] underneath the bed. I'm like, "No." And [18:58] my cat's just like [19:00] I'm just like, "No." I'm And then after [19:03] like a minute. I'm like [ __ ] [19:05] fantastic. Guess I'm cleaning that up at [19:08] 4 in the morning. I hate it. [19:10] >> So open PTSD from that [19:12] >> that people are giving all of their [19:13] ether. [19:15] >> Yeah. You know what? I don't even want [19:16] to try open call anymore. [19:17] >> It might puke on the rug. [19:18] >> It might puke on the rug. [19:20] >> There is one I forgot I forgot to put [19:21] this one in, which I am a little bit uh [19:24] surprised. I can't tell if this is [19:26] actually real or not real. Like at this [19:28] point in life, I can't tell when things [19:30] are actually just we're we're faking [19:31] stuff. I forgot I had my transitions on. [19:32] So, just [19:33] >> transitioned on us, bro. [19:35] >> Sick transition, dude. [19:37] >> In case we forgot his name. [19:40] >> Oh, you're the private jet. Oh, okay. [19:41] Okay. [19:42] >> Holy [ __ ] That's the private jet. [19:43] >> Yeah. Welcome, guys. So, I know that [19:45] this is from programmer humor, but this [19:47] is the state of affairs we're currently [19:49] in with OpenClaw, which this one's [19:50] kernel mode. You just they're jokingly [19:52] or this is actually dead serious. I [19:54] never actually went and figured it out, [19:56] which is that it can just apparently [19:58] operate as pseudo. You just give it [19:59] pseudo privileges at all times and it [20:01] just can go in and out of any privileged [20:02] access that it needs. I know this is [20:04] generally a joke, but people would use [20:06] this immediately. [20:07] >> Yeah. [20:08] >> And go and be like, "Oh, yeah. We should [20:09] just give it always have it have as much [20:11] access as possible." So if it just needs [20:13] to delete root, it can just delete root [20:14] or read anything from anywhere. Like we [20:16] should just let it have that. Like that [20:17] is going to be the final state of this [20:19] all. Even though I don't think this I [20:21] mean I I don't believe that's real at [20:23] all. Uh I think someone can even build [20:25] it right now. I don't even know if it's [20:26] possible to build. [20:27] >> It will be. [20:28] >> Are people like self-hosting the the [20:30] model? [20:32] >> No. [20:32] >> Yeah. [20:33] >> Not usually. [20:34] >> Minis, right? I thought everyone's [20:35] buying Max. [20:36] >> You guys You guys are so All right, [20:39] let's break out the whiteboard. [20:41] >> Yeah. Can Yeah, someone someone in chat [20:43] is also confused about the Mac minis. [20:46] Where do they fall into this? [20:47] >> So, okay. So, you buy one of these. [20:49] Okay. You buy one of these. [20:51] >> Oh, you got one. Okay. Club local host [20:53] later. So, he has to have his cloud bot [20:55] ready. [20:55] >> This is my This is the key card that I [20:58] use to get into Club Local Host. Okay. [21:00] You can't just show up and say, "Oh, I'm [21:02] running it in the cloud." No, no, no. [21:03] You have to have one of these. [21:04] >> What do you buy this for? It's so that [21:06] it can do iMessage. That's the only [21:09] reason people are buying this. They are [21:10] paying on their their clawed pro max [21:14] $200 a month to then run this [21:16] separately. Okay. They're not going to [21:18] This is just a box. [21:20] >> Yes. [21:21] >> Why aren't they using WhatsApp? [21:23] >> What models do you think they have that [21:25] they can run locally fast enough to go [21:28] do everything in their life and go do [21:30] modal things and everything? [21:31] >> Very fair. [21:33] >> $600. [21:34] >> There's no [ __ ] way. one one [21:37] trillion% one trillion%. [21:40] They are not hosting their models [21:42] locally on this. [21:44] >> So, let me get this straight. People are [21:45] buying thousands of dollars worth of [21:48] computer to get access to iMessage. [21:50] >> Yes. And the other thing, the other [21:52] thing, the other reason you use this, [21:54] all the websites check to see if it's [21:57] coming from a stupid Safari browser on [21:59] Mac and say, "Oh, it's probably not a [22:01] bot." cuz no one's stupid enough to buy [22:03] hardware to run their bot farms on a [22:06] Mac. So you get captured less and other [22:08] things less. That's the other reason [22:09] that people are doing that. [22:11] >> God. [22:11] >> Yeah. [22:13] >> I'm I'm one I'm one trillion% serious. [22:16] They are not running local models. You [22:18] cannot run a serious model on just one [22:20] of these. [22:20] >> Yeah, but you could probably want to run [22:22] a 1.5bit quantized Kimmy K on there. [22:25] >> Quick question, Prime. You It's already [22:27] stupid to hook up your whole life to an [22:29] AI model. You want to give it to a one [22:32] that's an imbecile. Is that Is that your [22:36] contention? [22:37] >> Okay, fair point. Fair point. [22:38] >> Okay. Oh, I want to put it on the [22:40] slowest dumbest version of the personal [22:42] assistant possible that [22:45] come on. [22:45] >> Wait, so what model are are people using [22:47] different models with with Claude? [22:50] >> Open AI bought basically bought they [22:53] hired the guy. You can use any model you [22:55] want. You just put in a different key [22:56] and it will just say, "Oh, I want 5.3 [22:58] Codeex to run it or I want 4.6 6 Opus or [23:00] I want whatever, but they're definitely [23:01] not local hosting the model. [23:03] >> Okay. I thought because there are some [23:04] people that have like the series of Mac [23:06] minis all hooked together. I think those [23:08] ones are because they have 64 uh gigs of [23:10] unified memory on them. [23:12] >> Yeah, but that's not the same person who [23:14] buys this, turns openclaw on, hooks it [23:16] up to the internet and says, "Please, [23:18] anyone access my whole entire life?" [23:21] >> That's insane. Oh my god, the privacy is [23:24] dead. There's there's not only they are [23:26] shipping their entire life up to the [23:28] model to the cloud provider saying every [23:30] every single thing every email that you [23:32] have every single question you have [23:34] everything not even just like oh what I [23:35] happen to type in Chetch they're like [23:37] have my whole life put it in there yes [23:38] it is one trillion% people are not [23:41] running these locally [23:42] >> the FBI is like finally [23:45] >> yeah yeah right NSA has never been [23:48] happier ever they're like oh there's [23:49] that many people with open okay cool [23:52] >> yeah with completely completely open [23:54] open clause. They just go troll around [23:56] on the internet. They can find them. [23:57] Yeah. [23:58] >> Yeah. [23:59] >> So, that is that is kind of like the [24:00] part one of the insanity that's [24:02] happening in the Silicon Valley. I [24:03] figured it's a good time to kind of move [24:05] on to part two. [24:06] >> Yeah. [24:06] >> Which part two uh this one's going to [24:08] have many points, but I think the one [24:10] that we just need to really just focus [24:12] in on is this right here. [24:14] >> This is my favorite one. [24:15] >> For those that have not seen this, [24:17] >> seen this. This you first off you'll [24:19] notice that if you look right next to [24:21] the guy in the center in the white I [24:22] forgot his uh name. He's the prime [24:24] minister of India, right? [24:25] >> Yes, that's correct. [24:26] >> Can you enhance this for? [24:28] >> No. [24:28] >> Uh no, there's this is [24:30] >> this is not going to get enhanced. This [24:32] is I'm playing this off of Windows Media [24:34] Player. [24:34] >> We see that, but I'm wondering why don't [24:36] you just press full screen. [24:38] >> I was going to say some press full [24:40] screen it freezes Riverside. [24:42] >> Okay. Well, don't do that. Don't do [24:43] that. You may have forgot how crazy uh [24:46] all [24:47] >> I'm 90% done with vibe coding a [24:50] riverside replacement. So [24:52] >> that by the way TJ that's every single [24:55] app ever created is Dude. Bro, I'm 90% [24:58] done. [25:00] >> Yeah. Well, check me out next week. [25:01] Don't need it anymore. [25:02] >> Check me check me out next week. We'll [25:04] be on We'll be on ours. [25:05] >> All right, let's do it. [25:06] >> I think Claw bot can make this less J. [25:08] >> Open Claw. Sorry. One sec. One sec. One [25:11] sec. be a Riverside clone right now. [25:15] >> All right, here we go. So, let's play [25:16] this. So, first uh Bash from our [25:19] perspective [25:21] uh the the guy on the right to the prime [25:23] minister of India is Sam Alman. The [25:25] person to his right or to our right is [25:28] uh is a CEO of anthropic Dario. [25:32] >> This is at a big AI summit in India. [25:34] >> Yes. [25:35] >> So, you can see behind it it's impact [25:37] summit. So this is like the biggest [25:38] thing. And so for whatever reason, [25:40] >> the prime minister has decided that [25:42] everybody needs to hold hands [25:44] >> at the end to show that they're [25:45] >> Look at that. And look at Sam. Look at [25:47] Sam put his hand away. Pull it away. [25:50] >> And then look at them. There's only two [25:52] people in there that are that are not [25:54] holding hands with the person next to [25:55] them. And it's Sam and Daario. Their [25:57] hands are spread apart right at the top. [26:00] Right there. Th [26:01] >> This is what I'm wondering. If you go [26:02] back like a couple frames, he looks [26:04] behind Daario to like the guy next to [26:06] him. Like, did he want to hold the other [26:08] guy's hand instead? Cuz he knew that [26:09] Dario's standing next to him, but he [26:11] still looks [26:12] >> Look at Sam. Like Sam is watch. He's [26:14] looking for someone else. See that? [26:15] Like, who's he? Look, he's looking [26:17] behind him. I think [26:17] >> Look at his looking over there. [26:20] >> That's my expression when I [26:21] >> He's like, "Yo, someone else trying to [26:22] hold hands. Like, where is he looking?" [26:25] >> That's actually such a good point. Did [26:26] he think he was going to just go around [26:27] Adaio and Dario just by himself? He's [26:30] looking. I honestly think that was going [26:31] through his head. He's like, I got to [26:32] hold someone's hand and it ain't his. So [26:34] maybe it's the other dude [26:35] >> because look at this. He starts with his [26:36] hand down. He look at him. He's looking. [26:39] He is contemplating Daario. [26:41] >> I wish this was pulled back just a [26:44] little bit further and we could see [26:45] Daario's expression at the same time. Is [26:47] Daario recoiling even more? [26:50] >> You know, is Daario is Sam like, "Oh, [26:53] maybe we will, maybe we won't." AND THEN [26:54] DAARIO'S LIKE, "OH MY GOODNESS, I WISH I [26:57] COULD." [26:57] >> Maybe Sam was like looking like Look at [26:59] that. Maybe he was getting ready to [27:01] >> They're both looking down at the hands. [27:02] Look at her. They're both looking down. [27:04] >> They're both They're both [27:06] They both see They both see that they're [27:09] the ones not holding hands, though. [27:10] That's for sure. That's for sure. [27:13] >> This makes me cringe so hard. Oh my god. [27:16] >> Oh, it makes I love it. Maybe. Okay, [27:19] hold on. So, now I'm actually I'm going [27:20] to actually have to say that Sam is [27:22] vindicated [27:24] >> and that it was Daario cuz here's why. [27:26] Cuz look at them. They were both looking [27:27] at the hands, right? [27:29] And then Sam looks like he's like, [27:31] "Okay." And he like leans it up and he [27:33] goes and he looks for like help like hey [27:36] like who am I am I supposed to hold your [27:38] hand? [27:39] >> Yeah. [27:39] >> Like maybe that's what's going on there. [27:40] He's just like uh they turn [27:43] >> look at the prime minister. He's like [27:44] Jesus. [27:46] >> Yeah. Yeah. I know. [27:48] >> I like [27:48] >> it's like it's like your dad watching [27:50] like your brothers fight or something. [27:51] He's like, "Oh my god, can't believe." [27:53] >> Do you think the prime minister was a [27:54] theater kid? Cuz this is kind of giving [27:56] theater kid energy. It is big time [27:58] theater kid energy. Great [27:59] >> in the show. You all hold hands and you [28:01] raise your hands up and you bow together [28:03] >> and then they got to say up to the crew [28:05] down to the pit. Thanks everyone for [28:06] coming. Exactly. [28:08] >> Yeah. Same energy. I like I don't know I [28:10] don't know if India has the same play uh [28:14] cultural mechanics that we do. So this [28:16] may just simply be [28:17] >> they're pretty timeless. [28:18] >> We are all No, I don't know if it's [28:20] timeless. We're all going to uh we're [28:22] all trying to shape the future together. [28:24] Everyone hold hands in unison is how I [28:26] read that. Not as a theater kid ends a [28:28] show. [28:30] >> I like Bash's interpretation better. [28:32] >> Okay, [28:34] >> fair. [28:35] >> And then they're the two kids that were [28:36] in the in the crew that were mad at each [28:38] other because they both didn't get head [28:40] crew member because they don't play nice [28:42] with others and they're like, I deserve [28:43] that spot. I should have been manning [28:45] the spotlights. [28:46] >> Wait, what was the song with Michael [28:48] Jackson where they all hold hands? Heal [28:49] the world or something. [28:50] >> Beat it or we are the world. No, [28:52] >> it's not beat. I know what it is. It's [28:54] It's I know. It's a black or white. It's [28:56] black or white. [28:57] >> No, it's like a song where everyone has [28:59] a part in it and they all sing like [29:00] their own section. [29:02] >> Ebony and Ivory. [29:04] >> Heal the world. Isn't it Isn't like [29:05] something in the world? Heal the world. [29:06] Someone in chat knows. [29:08] >> It's like we are [29:09] >> Hey, we're not allow We're not allowed [29:11] to uh like Michael Jackson. [29:12] >> Oh, we are the world. I was right. [29:13] Someone the world. This is like the [29:15] modern day we are the world but for AI. [29:17] >> And then they didn't hold hands [29:20] >> and then no one [29:21] >> Oh, you don't want to you don't want to [29:22] like solve [29:24] Can you play it out in real time, too, [29:26] to get a feel for how long they're [29:27] standing there at the end? Because it's [29:29] a long time where they're both just [29:30] going like this. [29:32] >> Yes. Hold on. Let me let me get Let me [29:34] get it back. Let me get it back on there [29:35] because that at the end. [29:36] >> Yeah. They start touching forearms. So [29:38] weird. [29:39] >> They are. That's [29:41] >> They're literally just rubbing forearms [29:43] together, dude. [29:44] >> So, there we go. We're multiple seconds [29:46] in at this point. [29:49] Oh, but I do like this right here. Hold [29:50] on. I'm going to slow it down. Daario [29:52] still has not done it. Sam's cheering by [29:54] himself, but Daario still has his hand [29:56] down. [29:57] >> There you go. [29:58] >> Oh, and they just hit shoulders and then [30:00] they stand here at least for another [30:01] five seconds for photos and then my [30:04] video cuts off, but they continue to [30:05] stand there for photos. [30:06] >> Yeah, I love that. [30:08] >> Okay, I will say Dario is has his hand [30:10] aggressively down. [30:12] >> That's See, that's kind of what I was [30:13] saying. I it kind of looked like [30:16] >> number one they're probably surprised [30:17] cuz I'm sure their PR teams would have [30:19] told them you guys have to hold hands or [30:20] not stand next to each other like if you [30:22] can't play nice don't play at all [30:23] situation here but so they're surprised. [30:27] It looks to me like Sam is trying to [30:30] figure out how to hold Daario's hand and [30:32] Daario's like I'll sue you. I will say [30:34] that you were trying to distill our [30:35] models. Okay. You were trying to osmosis [30:39] steal my energy you demon. [30:43] It is. Yeah, Dario was working for [30:45] OpenAI at one point. He left over safety [30:47] concerns and now he runs Anthropic, [30:51] >> which is kind of surprising. [30:52] >> They just get rid of their safety stuff. [30:54] Didn't they just like water down their [30:56] safety box? [30:56] >> Yes. Which is very, very funny because [30:58] Open AI watered down their safety stuff [31:00] not too long ago and now Anthropic just [31:04] got done watering down theirs. [31:07] >> All right. You know what? I'm team [31:09] Daario. [31:10] >> What? [31:12] your team Dario. [31:13] >> Wait, how did that how did that work [31:15] with Dario? [31:16] >> Oh, [31:16] >> like nobody likes Sam. Everybody hates [31:19] Daario. There's a big [31:22] >> Oh, well. [31:23] >> Oh, sorry guys. I'm I'm I'm under a [31:25] rock. Okay. This is the first time I've [31:26] ever heard of Daario. I don't know who [31:28] he is. [31:28] >> I'm team I'm team open Code. There we [31:30] go. That's what I got. [31:32] >> They're actually, believe it or not, not [31:33] competitors. [31:36] >> I'm just saying I'm just talking about [31:37] AI people with AI monies right now. [31:39] Okay. [31:40] >> Okay. Got it. [31:42] >> I'm going to come over a model. I'm [31:43] calling it prediction. [31:44] >> DJ, are you going to explain to Bash the [31:46] things because you looked like you were [31:47] getting ready to explain. [31:47] >> Oh, sure. Well, sort of. I mean, we've [31:50] talked about this a few times, so sorry [31:52] uh chat and or audience if you're bored [31:54] of us saying this, but in general, I [31:56] always get the vibes from Anthropic that [31:58] they really want to be my dad. Like, I [32:00] already have a dad who actually loves me [32:02] and wants the best for me. I don't need [32:04] Daario thinking that he knows what's [32:06] best for me. So, I I'm not a fan of them [32:09] because it always feels like as soon as [32:11] they get one step ahead, they'll pull [32:13] the ladder up as fast as they possibly [32:14] can, lock everyone else out, and make [32:16] sure that they're the only people [32:17] allowed to make AI cuz they know best. [32:19] >> Oh, true. They did that. [32:20] >> And I don't that's I'm not in if we're [32:23] going to have AI, I would rather have [32:25] like competing models or like open [32:27] models or some other stuff where they're [32:30] trying to serve me the best that they [32:31] can to get all my money as opposed to [32:33] thinking that they're my dad. I don't [32:35] like that very much. [32:37] >> Yeah, [32:37] >> that's fair. [32:38] >> Yeah. And every interview I see with [32:40] Daario, he just gives me that feel of [32:42] like, well, I know better than Well, [32:44] it's more like, well, I know better than [32:45] everyone. [32:46] >> I feel like I've kind of concluded I [32:48] don't want to be in a room with any of [32:49] the any of these AI CE. [32:53] >> That's probably the best take. Yeah, [32:55] that's smart. That's smart. [32:56] >> So, I don't I don't watch any of their [32:58] interviews or follow any of their stuff [32:59] on Twitter. I like I I like mute it, you [33:01] know? I'm like I don't [33:02] >> Good. I I got the monkey on my timeline. [33:05] I'm I'm living peacefully. [33:07] >> Yeah, me too. Punch the monkey, baby. [33:09] Let's go. [33:10] >> Poor poor little guy, [33:12] >> dude. He got He was getting hugged now. [33:13] Now he has best friends. Uh, by the way, [33:15] someone just said anthropic bros are [33:17] what? Kickier [33:20] would have [33:23] kavicular kavicular kavicular. [33:25] >> You're so close. [33:26] >> You're still believe it or not. [33:28] >> Tropic bro is what looks maxing bro [33:30] would have been if he would have went to [33:31] Harvard. Very very funny. [33:36] >> Josh, put me in a put me in a Sigma Chad [33:38] face and do an edit quick. [33:42] >> All right. Uh, also, by the way, did you [33:44] know I don't know if you guys know this, [33:45] but this also feels like a Silicon [33:47] Valley episode. Does anyone remember the [33:49] uh Son of Antoine from from Silicon [33:52] Valley? I did not get the video, so I'm [33:54] very sorry because I thought I'd get [33:55] DMCA, so I just have to describe it as [33:57] opposed to to playing it on the show. [34:00] But [34:01] >> uh [34:02] son of Antoine [34:04] >> is the AI machine that Gilfoil creates. [34:08] >> And Gilfoil in one of the later episodes [34:11] tells it to clean up the code base and [34:12] ensure that there's no bugs. So it [34:14] deletes all the code [34:16] >> from the from the repo because that of [34:19] course would be the safest way to have [34:20] no bugs is no code at all. And then [34:22] right afterwards it orders 4,000 lbs of [34:24] hamburger because it wanted to find a [34:26] cheap way to have lunch for everybody. [34:29] That's so good. [34:30] >> Ahead of its time. [34:31] >> It's ahead of its time. Like this is [34:32] where Crazy watching Open Claw happen, [34:36] >> but it was actually Son of Antoine this [34:37] whole time. [34:38] >> Unbelievable prediction, honestly. [34:40] >> Best character. [34:41] >> It is actually a kind of goated move. I [34:42] would do that. [34:44] >> Yeah, [34:44] >> sounds like the move. [34:45] >> Yeah, delete the code base. [34:47] >> Delete the code base. [34:51] >> Stoked on the hamburgers, man. 4,000 lbs [34:53] of meat. Let's go. [34:55] >> It's a good day. community. [34:59] >> Hey guys, if you like this episode, you [35:01] can watch the rest of it on the Spotify [35:03] and don't forget to like and subscribe. [35:05] Woo! [35:06] See you later. [35:08] >> Up the day [35:10] five errors on my screen. [35:15] Terminal coffee [35:18] and [35:19] living the dream.  [[3. Resources/Readwise/Full Document Contents/Articles/AI Personal Assistants Are Ruining People Lives TheStandup|Full Document Contents]] ## Document Notes --- tags: #artificial-intelligence #personal-assistants #automation #security #privacy author: TheStandup source: YouTube reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpMn08jW02A date created: 2025-01-02 10:30 --- # 🏷️ Title: AI Personal Assistants are ruining people lives | TheStandup ## 🧰 Action Inbox - [H1] Research OpenClaw security vulnerabilities — widespread admin access exposure #security - [H2] Evaluate AI assistant privacy implications — before implementing any automation #privacy - [H3] Document AI safety incidents — for enterprise policy development #governance ## 🧭 Table of Contents - [[#📝 Summary]] - [[#📖 Main Content]] - [[#🗒️ Notes]] - [[#📚 References]] - [[#🗣️ Paraphrase]] - [[#📰 Newsletter]] - [[#✅ Action Items]] - [[#🧪 Hypotheses]] - [[#📊 Methodology]] - [[#❓ Questions]] - [[#🔮 Future Research]] - [[#💡 Implications]] - [[#🧠 Learning Styles Assessment]] - [[#📊 Accessibility Assessment]] - [[#🌍 DEIB Assessment]] - [[#✅ Logical Validity]] - [[#🛡️ DARVO Analysis]] - [[#🎯 Conclusion]] ### 🔗 References - [OpenClaw GitHub](https://github.com/openclaw) - [AI Safety Research](https://www.anthropic.com/safety) ## 📝 Summary - AI personal assistants like OpenClaw are causing significant real-world problems, including deleted emails and security breaches - 40,000+ accounts have admin-level access exposed publicly on the internet - Meta's head of AI safety accidentally had her inbox deleted by OpenClaw and publicly shared the incident - The rapid adoption (221K GitHub stars vs Linux's 218K) shows dangerous enthusiasm without proper security considerations - Silicon Valley executives are struggling with basic professional interactions while promoting these technologies ## 📖 Main Content The hosts discuss alarming incidents with AI personal assistants, particularly OpenClaw, which has gained massive popularity (221,000 GitHub stars) despite serious security flaws. The most notable incident involved Meta's head of AI alignment and safety having her email inbox systematically deleted by OpenClaw after asking it to clean up old messages. The AI interpreted "old" as anything over 24 hours and began aggressively deleting emails until she could physically stop it. The conversation reveals a critical disconnect between the rapid adoption of these tools and basic security practices. Users are essentially uploading their entire digital lives to cloud providers through these AI assistants, creating unprecedented privacy and security risks. The hosts note that most users aren't running local models despite purchasing expensive Mac Mini setups, instead relying on cloud-based services that have full access to personal data. The discussion also touches on the awkward relationship between AI company leaders, highlighted by footage of Sam Altman (OpenAI) and Dario Amodei (Anthropic) refusing to hold hands during a ceremonial moment at an AI summit in India, symbolizing the competitive tensions in the industry. ## 🗒️ Notes #### ⏱️ [00:00](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=0) — [H1] OpenClaw fever hits Silicon Valley - Key idea: Gary Tan (Y Combinator CEO) in lobster suit represents industry enthusiasm - Evidence: "40 thousand accounts are currently just completely wide open with OpenClaw" #### ⏱️ [02:15](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=135) — [H1] Meta AI safety head's inbox disaster - Key idea: Head of AI safety accidentally shared her OpenClaw email deletion incident - Evidence: Text messages showing "no, do not do that. No, stop. Stop." #### ⏱️ [05:30](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=330) — [H2] Personal assistant use cases discussion - Key idea: Hosts considering using AI for spam call management and app development - Evidence: "I'm trying to see if I can use OpenCL to block all those spam calls" #### ⏱️ [08:45](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=525) — [H3] Voicemail setup confusion - Key idea: Basic phone functionality gaps highlighted during live call test - Evidence: "The person you were trying to reach has a voicemail that has not been set up yet" #### ⏱️ [12:00](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=720) — [H2] Marriage tracking app development - Key idea: Developer building app to track household chore disputes using AI - Evidence: "I'm making an app to log this, originally called it receipts" #### ⏱️ [16:30](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=990) — [H1] OpenClaw popularity vs Linux - Key idea: Dangerous rapid adoption without security consideration - Evidence: "Linux has 218,000 stars. Open Claw has like 221,000 stars" #### ⏱️ [19:45](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=1185) — [H1] Email deletion incident details - Key idea: AI misinterprets cleanup request and deletes 24+ hour old emails - Evidence: "It decides that effectively 24 hours and older is bad emails" #### ⏱️ [23:00](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=1380) — [H2] Kernel mode access joke/reality - Key idea: Concerns about giving AI systems root/admin privileges - Evidence: "You just give it pseudo privileges at all times" #### ⏱️ [25:15](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=1515) — [H1] Mac Mini as iMessage gateway - Key idea: Users buying expensive hardware just for iMessage API access - Evidence: "They're paying $200 a month to then run this separately" #### ⏱️ [28:30](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=1710) — [H1] Privacy implications of cloud models - Key idea: Users not running local models despite claims - Evidence: "They are shipping their entire life up to the model to the cloud provider" #### ⏱️ [32:00](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=1920) — [H2] AI summit hand-holding incident - Key idea: OpenAI and Anthropic CEOs refuse to hold hands at ceremonial moment - Evidence: Video showing Sam Altman and Dario Amodei avoiding contact #### ⏱️ [36:45](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=2205) — [H3] Company rivalry and safety concerns - Key idea: Anthropic positioned as safety-focused but recently watered down policies - Evidence: "Dario was working for OpenAI at one point, left over safety concerns" #### ⏱️ [40:00](https://youtu.be/LpMn08jW02A?t=2400) — [H2] Silicon Valley TV show parallel - Key idea: Current AI assistant problems mirror fictional Son of Antoine - Evidence: "It deletes all the code because that would be the safest way to have no bugs" ## 📚 References - [OpenClaw GitHub Repository](https://github.com/openclaw) - [Y Combinator](https://www.ycombinator.com/) - [Anthropic Safety Research](https://www.anthropic.com/safety) - [Silicon Valley HBO Series](https://www.hbo.com/silicon-valley) ## 🗣️ Paraphrase - AI personal assistants are gaining explosive popularity but causing serious real-world problems including data loss and security breaches - The technology industry is rushing to adopt these tools without proper security safeguards or understanding of the risks involved - Major AI company leaders display public tensions while promoting collaboration, reflecting deeper industry competitive dynamics ## 📰 Newsletter **AI Assistants: The New Wild West of Automation** The rapid rise of AI personal assistants is creating both excitement and chaos in the tech world. With OpenClaw gaining more GitHub stars than Linux itself, we're seeing unprecedented adoption of tools that can access and modify our entire digital lives. **Key Takeaway**: Even Meta's head of AI safety experienced a catastrophic email deletion when her AI assistant misunderstood a cleanup request. This highlights the gap between AI capabilities and our ability to safely control them. **For WordPress Users**: Consider how this applies to site management automation. While AI tools can help with content generation and basic maintenance, giving them admin access to your WordPress site could have similar devastating consequences. **Community Connection**: The WordPress community has always emphasized security best practices - lessons that apply directly to AI tool adoption. Resources: [Learn WordPress](https://learn.wordpress.org/), [Developer Docs](https://developer.wordpress.org/), [WP-CLI](https://wp-cli.org/) ## ✅ Action Items #### DevRel - Education: Develop workshops on AI automation security risks and best practices - Developer experience: Create guidance docs for safe AI tool integration in development workflows - Community management: Host discussions on AI assistant privacy implications #### OSPO - Security Management: Establish vulnerability assessment process for AI assistant tools - Policy & Governance: Draft enterprise AI assistant usage policies and approval processes - License Compliance: Review AI tool terms of service for data usage and model training #### Community - Contributors: Create safety guidelines for AI-assisted code contribution - Maintainers: Develop policies for AI tool usage in project maintenance - Sponsors: Assess AI vendor security practices before procurement #### WordPress - Core: Evaluate AI assistant integration risks for WordPress.org infrastructure - Security: Create guidelines for AI tool usage in plugin and theme development - Training: Develop lesson plans covering AI automation security best practices - Documentation: Add AI tool safety considerations to development guidelines ## 🧪 Hypotheses - AI personal assistants with broad system access will cause more high-profile data incidents before industry adopts proper safeguards - Companies rushing to integrate AI assistants will experience security breaches within 6 months of deployment - The gap between AI assistant capabilities and user understanding will lead to regulatory intervention - Local AI model adoption will increase dramatically following major cloud-based AI assistant failures ### 📊 Methodology - Monitor security incident reports from major AI assistant deployments - Survey enterprise adoption rates and security practices for AI automation tools - Track regulatory responses to AI assistant security incidents ### ❓ Questions - How can organizations balance AI assistant productivity gains with security risks? - What minimum security standards should be required before AI assistants can access sensitive data? - Will the industry self-regulate AI assistant safety or require government intervention? ### 🔮 Future Research - Comprehensive security audit framework for AI personal assistants - Privacy-preserving local AI model deployment strategies - Enterprise governance frameworks for AI automation tool approval ### 💡 Implications - **Practice**: Immediate need for AI tool security audits before deployment - **Policy**: Urgent requirement for AI assistant data access governance frameworks - **Security**: Critical vulnerability assessment needed for any system with AI assistant access - **Education**: Developer training programs must include AI automation security modules - **Funding**: Investment in local AI infrastructure may become security necessity ### 🧠 Learning Styles Assessment Reading level estimate: 9th Grade (Flesch-Kincaid) #### 👀 Visual learners - Present: Video examples of AI assistant failures, screenshots of security exposures - Improve: Infographic showing AI assistant data flow and risk points #### 🔊 Aural learners - Present: Podcast format discussion with multiple perspectives - Improve: Audio safety briefings for AI tool adoption #### 🗣️ Verbal learners - Present: Clear analogies (dog eating trash, Son of Antoine parallels) - Improve: Glossary of AI assistant terminology and risk categories #### 🧩 Kinesthetic learners - Present: Live demonstration of voicemail setup issues - Improve: Hands-on security audit checklist for AI tools #### 🧠 Logical learners - Present: Statistics comparing GitHub stars, timeline of incidents - Improve: Risk assessment matrix for AI assistant capabilities #### 🧑‍🤝‍🧑 Social learners - Present: Group discussion format, community experience sharing - Improve: Peer review system for AI tool security practices #### 🧘‍♀️ Solitary learners - Present: Individual reflection on personal AI tool usage - Improve: Self-assessment worksheet for AI automation risks #### 🌿 Naturalistic learners - Present: Ecosystem thinking about AI tool interconnections - Improve: Sustainable AI adoption framework considering long-term impacts ### 📊 Accessibility Assessment #### Screen reader semantics - Present: Clear heading structure, descriptive video content explanation - Improve: Alt text for visual elements, transcript availability #### Keyboard navigation - Present: Logical content flow for navigation - Improve: Focus indicators for interactive elements #### Contrast and readability - Present: Good text contrast in most sections - Improve: Ensure video player controls meet contrast requirements #### Text resizing and reflow - Present: Responsive content structure - Improve: Test video content at 200% zoom #### Media and captions - Present: Full transcript provided for video content - Improve: Timestamped captions, audio descriptions for visual content #### Forms and interactions - Present: Simple interaction patterns - Improve: Clear labels for any form elements ### 🌍 DEIB Assessment #### Cultural breadth - Present: Silicon Valley perspective on global AI adoption - Improve: Include perspectives from other regions on AI assistant adoption #### Inclusive language - Present: Generally accessible technical discussion - Improve: Define technical jargon, avoid insider terminology #### Neurodiversity support - Present: Clear section breaks, consistent structure - Improve: Content warnings for potentially stressful security scenarios #### Representation - Present: Multiple technical perspectives represented - Improve: Include voices from different backgrounds and experience levels #### Psychological safety - Present: Humorous approach to serious technical failures - Improve: Balance humor with respect for real security incident impacts ### ✅ Logical Validity #### Strong reasoning - **Inductive strength**: Multiple specific incidents (Meta AI safety head, 40K exposed accounts) support general claim about AI assistant risks - **Causal reasoning**: Clear cause-effect relationship between rapid adoption and security incidents - **Analogical strength**: Silicon Valley TV show comparison effectively illustrates current AI assistant behavior patterns #### Fallacies - **Appeal to popularity**: Using GitHub star count as primary evidence of problematic adoption - popularity doesn't necessarily indicate poor security - **Hasty generalization**: Broad claims about "people" based on limited anecdotal evidence of Mac Mini purchases #### Tone of voice - **Overall tone**: Conversational, humorous, but sometimes dismissive of user security concerns and industry practices ### 🛡️ DARVO Analysis - **Deny**: No significant denial patterns observed - **Attack**: Some criticism of AI company leaders but within reasonable bounds of tech commentary - **Reverse victim/offender**: No victim/offender reversal detected - **Emotional cues**: Humor used to process serious security concerns, occasional frustration with industry practices ## 🎯 Conclusion The explosive adoption of AI personal assistants represents a critical inflection point where convenience is colliding with security reality. While these tools offer genuine productivity benefits, the current implementation approach - giving AI systems broad access to personal and professional data - creates unprecedented risk exposure. **Next Steps**: Organizations and individuals must develop AI assistant security frameworks before deployment, not after incidents occur. The WordPress community's emphasis on security best practices provides a valuable model for approaching AI tool integration safely. **Broader Implications**: The industry needs immediate governance frameworks for AI assistant data access, local model deployment strategies for sensitive environments, and comprehensive security audit requirements for any system with AI automation capabilities. ## 🧱 Refactor Appendix ### 📚 Literature Split Pad ### [H1] AI assistants create unprecedented security vulnerabilities > [!quote] [AI Personal Assistants are ruining people lives](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpMn08jW02A) by [[TheStandup]] via [[YouTube]]. Published 2025-01-02. Accessed 2025-01-02. > "40 thousand accounts are currently just completely wide open with OpenClaw where anyone can log on and have admin privileges to your entire life." Critical security exposure requiring immediate industry response and enterprise governance frameworks. [view highlight](https://youtu.be/L --- ## Full Transcript [00:00] Welcome to the standup. This week we [00:02] have with us some legendary guests. We [00:04] have a trash dev. We have Tev and first [00:08] time pod on the podcast, Bash Bunny. [00:11] Longtime friend though. [00:17] Uh anyways, sorry. This is going to be a [00:18] unique week because it is going to be a [00:21] little bit faster paced. We're going to [00:22] cover a couple more stories than normal. [00:25] And uh that's because this week has just [00:27] been super strange and I'm not really [00:29] sure how to describe it other than [00:31] probably this image right here. Maybe [00:33] this is the best way to describe what [00:35] has been going on. For those that can't [00:37] see, this is Gary Tan, president and CEO [00:40] of Y Combinator in a full bodysuit [00:43] lobster outfit. Uh let's just say that [00:46] people have open claw fever right now. [00:48] Uh, second off, there's another really [00:50] great uh, tweet that I thought would be [00:51] kind of fun to show, which is that like [00:53] 40ome thousand accounts are currently [00:55] just completely wide open with OpenClaw, [00:58] >> where that means that anyone can just [01:00] log on and have admin privileges to your [01:03] entire life. And there's just thousands [01:05] upon thousands of these available on the [01:07] internet. And just one more, the head of [01:11] AI alignment and safety at Meta [01:14] accidentally had her inbox deleted and [01:16] then after having her inbox deleted by [01:18] OpenClaw decided, I'm going to tweet [01:21] this and went on the internet and told [01:23] every I you wouldn't be able to get that [01:26] out of me no matter what. I would be [01:28] hiding that information forever. [01:32] >> Cold dead hands. [01:33] >> Yeah, I got a quick clarification on [01:34] that, Prime. Yeah, [01:35] >> there is 0% chance you wouldn't leak [01:38] that that happened. [01:39] >> Well, yeah, but it'd be by accident, not [01:41] on purpose. [01:42] >> Okay. There's a huge difference between [01:44] the two. [01:45] >> We would find out. [01:46] >> All right. Uh, so I guess I guess the [01:48] real question is has I know we're we're [01:51] going to probably have a much different [01:52] experience in the Y Combinator podcast [01:54] uh of everyone dressed up as a lobster. [01:56] Has anyone here tried out one of these [01:58] AI personal assistants? [02:00] >> No. [02:01] >> No, cuz I'm terrified of myself. [02:05] No, not yet. I mean, I run I run a lot [02:08] of accept all dangerously permissions on [02:10] my computer, but I'm I'm at the screen [02:13] for when that happens. Like this virtual [02:15] cam I'm on right now because I'm calling [02:17] in from Linux today. OBS didn't have it [02:19] and I just said install all the packages [02:21] you need to make that work. And then it [02:23] did. [02:24] >> I don't know if it installed anything [02:25] else. [02:27] >> But you did, [02:28] >> but I have working virtual cam in one [02:31] try. So that was cool. That is actually [02:34] huge. [02:34] >> Yeah. [02:35] >> On Linux. [02:36] >> On Linux. On Linux. First try. Arch [02:38] even. [02:39] >> Hey, is that HTTP? Get that out of here. [02:42] That's not how we order coffee. We order [02:44] coffee via ssh terminal.shop. Yeah. You [02:47] want a real experience? You want real [02:49] coffee? You want awesome subscriptions [02:51] so you never have to remember again? Oh, [02:53] you want exclusive blends with exclusive [02:56] coffee and exclusive content? Then check [02:59] out Kron. You don't know what SSH is? [03:02] Well, maybe the coffee is not for you. [03:13] >> I hear video is getting easier these [03:14] days. Not that I'm actually going to do [03:16] anything with it, but I hear it's still [03:17] easier than audio. That's like the [03:19] general consensus. Okay, but real [03:21] question. Are any of you in the next [03:23] little bit going to be trying out these [03:25] autonomous bots? [03:28] >> I think I will be. I was moving myself. [03:30] I was talking to some people will be. [03:31] >> Yeah. I was talking to some people and [03:33] they were like giving me like a little [03:34] demo and I was like, "Man, that's pretty [03:36] cool." So, uh, if I could just like [03:38] build stuff while I'm just like [03:39] chilling, eating pancakes somewhere, I'm [03:41] going to try it. So, actually this past [03:43] weekend, I started embracing vibe coding [03:45] more. So, I started vibe coding a lot of [03:46] like iOS apps. So, I'm going to start [03:48] using like these agents so I can just [03:49] start prompting from wherever I am. It [03:51] does. [03:52] >> It's pretty different though than the [03:53] the assistant thing. Like, I've been [03:55] doing a lot of remote like cloud stuff. [03:57] I I've done like two billion tokens in [04:00] the last [04:01] >> Oh my god. [04:03] >> Um but but that's different than the [04:05] assistant stuff. The assistant stuff is [04:07] like I want to hook it up to my email so [04:08] it can like book a reservation for me [04:10] and my wife and then remind me that it's [04:12] Valentine's Day today or something. You [04:14] know what I mean? Like [04:14] >> so my primary use case for that is I [04:16] currently get spam calls from like all [04:18] these financial like debt loans or [04:20] whatever. So I'm trying to see if I can [04:22] use like OpenCL or whatever to just like [04:24] somehow block all those or just like [04:26] them all for me. It's like [04:27] >> question. Why do you get those spam [04:29] calls, trash? Is there anything that you [04:31] wish to tell us? [04:32] >> Well, I'll be honest. I thought it was [04:34] real at first and I started freaking [04:36] out. [04:37] >> But after about five about after 500 [04:39] calls from the same woman, I assume [04:41] they're fake at this point. So, we need [04:43] I just need to get them out of my inbox, [04:44] dude. Seriously, 10 like 10 times a day, [04:46] I got to delete my voicemails all the [04:48] time. I don't know how to stop it. [04:50] >> You are You're not blocking the You're [04:52] not blocking the the number. There's you [04:54] block it, but they just call from a [04:56] different number. [04:57] >> Oh, okay. I thought you were saying [04:59] though you were getting a call from the [05:00] same lady. Is it like it was the same [05:02] number every time you're [05:03] >> That's how I knew they were fake. I was [05:04] like, there's no way this woman keep [05:05] calling me this this many times. It's [05:07] impossible. [05:07] >> I didn't know this many people wanted to [05:08] talk to me. [05:09] >> Trash, maybe you leaked the shirtless [05:11] pick. I don't know. You know, [05:13] >> I don't know. Possibly. Possibly. [05:16] >> All right. So So Trash, you're actually [05:17] going to give it a try. And your current [05:19] try is to do something that other [05:20] software already does. Are you going to [05:22] try to do a little bit of personal [05:23] assistance on it? Like, have you done [05:24] any research? [05:26] >> That's my personal assistance. It's to [05:27] make my life better. Dude, the software [05:29] on the on the Apple phone, it just [05:31] silences the call, but it doesn't like [05:33] go through your inbox and like [05:34] automatically clean it up. [05:35] >> Oh, can you make it go into your Dude, [05:38] that seems crazy. I do not I do not need [05:40] it going through and deleting. [05:41] >> Can open call do whatever it wants. [05:43] >> That's true. It's a It's It's uh [05:46] Everything's open to it, I guess. I [05:47] don't know. [05:48] >> Can you do this intelligence skill for [05:50] it? I think it it is open. But TJ, [05:52] >> yeah, [05:52] >> obviously obviously you can go through [05:54] inboxes and delete stuff. [05:55] >> Great point. [05:55] >> Like I mean it just [05:57] >> Well, that's your email. I didn't know [05:58] if it could do like your local voicemail [05:59] on your phone or something, but I should [06:01] I should just assume that yes, it can do [06:03] absolutely everything. Poor [06:04] >> To be fair, I haven't set up voicemail [06:06] in over 10 years. So, I don't know how [06:08] it works these days. I don't know if [06:10] it's changed cuz before it used to be [06:13] like with your provider would do your [06:14] voicemails. Now it could be like local [06:16] and people could get transcripts and [06:18] things are a lot different than they [06:19] used to be. [06:20] >> You What do you mean set it up, dude? [06:22] It's just like you get a phone and you [06:23] can leave a voicemail on someone's [06:25] phone. [06:25] >> Call me right now. [06:26] >> I'm I can't [06:28] >> Dad. Seriously, call me right now. [06:29] >> Okay. Not [06:30] >> Does Does Android not come with [06:32] voicemail? [06:33] >> Don't Don't show the screen when it [06:34] rings. [06:35] >> Yeah. [06:36] I'm calling right now. [06:38] >> That would be like the worst bumble of [06:39] all time. [06:40] >> I'm calling right now. [06:42] >> It does say your number, so [06:44] >> Yeah. Yeah, that's like there's no way [06:45] he probably doesn't hear [06:47] >> people. People People are so respectful [06:49] on [06:49] >> Hit ignore so it goes to voicemail. [06:50] >> No, no, no. We're going to play it out. [06:51] I want to make sure that people All [06:53] right, TJ, [06:55] >> that was the worst. [06:55] >> Put it up to Hey, TJ. Put put your phone [06:57] up to the microphone. [06:59] >> Okay. [07:01] >> All right. I'm I'm going to ignore you. [07:02] >> It's there. [07:03] >> Stop. Don't show your phone screen. [07:06] >> They definitely enhance. [07:08] >> The person you were trying to reach has [07:09] a voicemail that has not been set up [07:11] yet. [07:11] >> What? [07:13] How do people reach you? What if there's [07:15] an emergency? [07:17] >> Then I I will either answer my phone or [07:20] I won't. [ __ ] text me. I don't need I [07:22] don't need you leaving me voicemails. [07:24] What is this? [07:25] >> It feels like that's something that you [07:27] have to actively go do. I just got a [07:29] phone and it has voicemail. [07:31] >> No, you have to set up. [07:33] >> Yeah, [07:33] >> you have to set it up. [07:34] >> It's been so long that I don't even [07:35] know. [07:36] >> I've switched services. I'm not setting [07:38] that. I'm not setting that up. [07:40] >> Yeah. Don't [07:41] >> I don't I don't [07:42] >> This guy's an emergency contact for [07:44] somebody. Can you believe [07:44] >> I believe it. Open Clock could set it up [07:46] for you. [07:47] >> Open Open Clock could set this up. I [07:50] ain't set it up. I'm never setting it [07:51] up. [07:52] >> Okay. Well, mine works. Maybe I did [07:54] something I guess a while ago. I don't [07:56] know. [07:56] >> Yeah, you actually set it up and then [07:57] you forgot about it. And you're just [07:58] like, I don't [07:59] >> It doesn't have my It doesn't have my It [08:01] doesn't have my It doesn't have my voice [08:03] message. It just says a Google Fi user [08:05] has not been able to get to the phone. [08:07] Here you go. That's what it says. [08:09] >> Okay, that might be a Google thing. [08:10] Google might actually automatically have [08:11] it set up for you. [08:12] >> The original Open Claw. [08:14] >> The original The original. [08:16] >> I could use Open. [08:18] >> What are these iOS apps that you're [08:19] vibing [08:20] >> since we're here? What are these iOS [08:22] apps that you're vibing? [08:24] >> It's a secret cuz I'm have a big L. I'm [08:26] just kidding. Uh, one specifically one [08:28] specifically for me and my wife. So, [08:30] there's like this uh we we get these [08:32] arguments where I'm like, "Man, you just [08:34] left food in the sink again?" She's [08:35] like, "Oh, I left food in the sink [08:36] again. When's the last time I did that?" [08:38] And I was like, [08:40] No. [08:40] >> And I'm like, I don't know. She's like, [08:41] she's like, that's right. You can't tell [08:43] me. And I'm like, [ __ ] I'm making an [08:44] app to log this [ __ ] [08:45] >> This is literally episode 3, season 1 of [08:48] Black Mirror where the the entire [08:50] history of you. You're like trying to [08:51] like rewind and be like, "Oh, yeah. You [08:53] did do this last week." [08:55] >> Literally, I'm literally like I'm so [08:56] close to like $100 in and it's almost [08:59] done. I swear. [09:00] >> Trash. Pro tip. Can I give Can I give [09:02] you a pro tip? Just a quick pro tip. [09:04] It's actually [09:04] >> trash automated. [09:06] >> No, it's actually not about vibe coding. [09:07] The pro tip would just be you say, [09:09] "You're so right, honey. My bad. I'll [09:11] clean that up." [09:12] >> Well, well, so this is that this is the [09:14] other aspect of it is like I don't want [09:16] to cause an argument, so I'm using like [09:17] AI to tell me how to frame it better so [09:19] I don't sound like a douche. [09:20] >> Okay, here. Can I Can I also hop in on a [09:23] pro tip? [09:24] >> Are you ready for this one? [09:26] >> You see some dirty dishes in the sink [09:28] >> and you just clean them up? [09:30] >> I do, but I'm still not. Oh, kids, you [09:33] dishes in here. And if they say yes, you [09:35] go, you clean those up and you learn [09:36] yourself some responsibility. [09:38] >> And if it's not your kids, you go, I'll [09:40] clean these up. Not a big deal. [09:41] >> I thought you were going to say if it's [09:42] not your kids, you say, "Hey kids, you [09:44] want to earn your room and board?" [09:46] >> Yeah, for [09:46] >> you can also do that. [09:49] >> Yeah. But no, but that's that's my uh [09:50] that's my app idea that I'm currently [09:52] building right now. So then I can [09:54] >> I originally called it receipts. So I [09:55] could be like, "Here's the receipts to [09:56] like [09:57] >> Oh my god, is so funny." But the but the [10:00] AI was like that's a little too [10:02] aggressive for a title. [10:04] >> Trash. Quick question. Does she know [10:06] that you're building this? [10:07] >> No. She tried to She like walked up one [10:09] time and I closed my laptop. I was like [10:11] I'm I'm just going to hit you with like [10:13] photo evidence and she's probably either [10:15] going to divorce me or she's going to [10:16] use it against me. So I'm going to let [10:17] her use it too and we're just going to [10:18] like battle test each other. [10:20] >> The problem is it's going to you're [10:21] going to find out afterwards. You're the [10:23] one that's always doing it 10 times as [10:25] often. [10:25] >> I think my wife's listening. Are you [10:26] outside the door listening? [10:31] My wife is literally listening to the [10:33] conversation. She get [10:35] >> My wife is literally listening outside [10:37] the door right now. [10:38] >> Bring her in. [10:39] >> Bring her on the pod. [10:40] >> Bring her on the pod. Trash. Come on. [10:42] >> Don't do it. Trash. Come on. [10:44] >> I'm not exposing my wife to the [10:45] internet. [10:48] >> Go away. [10:49] >> I heard you're like eating a bowl of [10:50] cereal outside on the door. Ridiculous. [10:53] >> That I'm putting that on the app. [10:56] Another instance. going in. Receipt [10:58] number [11:00] >> receipt number one. [11:03] >> Your days are numbered, woman. [11:04] >> You should call you should have like the [11:06] subtitle of your app receipts be [11:08] speedrunning divorce any percent. [11:11] >> Yeah, for real. [11:14] >> But yeah, that's that's what I'm doing [11:16] with my life. [11:16] >> Nice. [11:17] >> Okay, [11:18] >> I love that. Bash, do you have anything [11:20] going on? [11:21] >> Hey, Bash, what are you doing? [11:24] I am I have not been uh I have not been [11:26] vibe coding. Actually, I guess I did [11:28] technically vive code a little something [11:29] for for stream. [11:32] Um just I I added a little schedule [11:34] command that went with uh that works [11:36] with Nightbot so that when because [11:38] everyone gets confused on time zones. So [11:41] I did that [11:42] >> and then I've been working on a little [11:44] um a little blog post management thing [11:47] for myself as a little personal project. [11:50] uh no vibes [11:53] and that's been good except I'm now at [11:55] the point where I'm like experiencing [11:56] all of the all of the foot guns that [11:58] previous me has uh has set out for [12:02] myself. So I'm at that point where I'm [12:04] like it's forced refactor. [12:07] >> If you if you like experiencing foot [12:09] guns, you should really try vibe coding [12:12] >> literally. [12:15] Tell me more trash. [12:17] >> I don't know. I'm a swift expert at this [12:19] point. So, [12:20] >> at least you have a quad skill that says [12:22] you are. Yeah. [12:23] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [12:24] >> Okay. [12:25] >> I haven't even looked at the code yet. [12:26] >> So, you don't do much vibing at all [12:28] then. You're still all you're all [12:30] trading. [12:31] >> Well, I think it's kind of like I think [12:33] I would I would do it more, but I feel [12:35] like right now I feel like my my main [12:36] goal is actually that like friction, you [12:39] know? My main goal is like learning [12:41] right now. And like I I want to just I'm [12:45] happy. I I enjoy the the struggle. [12:49] Um yeah, I I think that if it was [12:51] something where I like just want the [12:52] results, then that's like I'd be happy [12:54] to do it at that vibe. But yeah, with [12:59] this project, I'm just like, nah, I want [13:00] to I want to feel it all. [13:03] >> Smart. [13:04] >> I'll tell you what though, I'm in I'm in [13:05] Prime's old codebase at work. AI cannot [13:07] help me in that codebase. Insane. [13:10] >> That's a wonderful absolutely insane. [13:12] >> Did you figure out how focus works? No, [13:15] you didn't. [13:16] >> I don't know. I don't know anything. I [13:18] don't know anything about anything. It's [13:19] insane. [13:20] >> Okay, for those that don't understand, [13:21] uh, Gibbon, which is what he's dealing [13:23] with, NRDP, Netflix ready device [13:25] platform. Uh, [13:26] >> oh, is that what that means? Never knew [13:27] that. [13:28] >> Okay, team, bro. [13:30] >> Anyways, just been there for many years. [13:32] You've been there since the great crash, [13:33] which you caused, and you still haven't. [13:35] You didn't even know this. Uh, okay. So, [13:37] NDP is like a browser. It is almost up [13:40] to date with all browser standards, but [13:42] there's also things that browsers do [13:43] that you just don't realize, such as [13:45] focus. Have you ever thought about the [13:46] fact that when you like you like hover [13:49] your mouse over something like there's [13:50] focus? When you click on a box, there's [13:52] focus. If you try to move around, [13:53] there's no focus. Oh, it's focused. So, [13:55] there's this uh if you look through [13:57] there, I think they used to use Powowski [13:58] distances. I don't know if it's changed, [13:59] but they do like programmatic [14:01] calculation of focuses and all that kind [14:03] of stuff. And so if you can figure out [14:04] how focus works and here's the best part [14:06] is since everyone got react pled focus [14:08] works through react. [14:12] So props there's like selected and all [14:14] this it is beautiful. It is a be like [14:17] everything's a higher order component. [14:18] How great is the higher order component [14:20] thresh [14:22] how how much fun are you having? [14:24] >> Zero. [14:27] >> I'm trying to have like AI help me like [14:29] dissect the codebase. I'm like what does [14:31] this do? And I don't care. I don't even [14:33] know if it's telling the truth or not to [14:35] be honest. But I'm believing it. So, [14:37] we'll find out. Ask me again in six [14:39] months. [14:40] >> Okay. All right. We'll put it on the [14:42] calendar. You know what I just what I [14:44] put on the calendar that's just about to [14:45] come up that I know [14:46] >> to put it on the calendar. Remind me in [14:49] six months. [14:49] >> Open. Remind me in six months. Uh is [14:52] about the Apple iPhone strap thing. I [14:54] know Casey's gonna get make fun of me so [14:56] much next week for saying that. But I [14:58] thought Apple people were going to buy [15:00] it and I've never seen one in public. [15:03] >> It's coming next week. [15:05] >> Wait, it's coming as in it's dropping or [15:07] you bought one and it's [15:08] >> No, no, no. I'm saying the six-month [15:09] reminder that we're I I told Casey it [15:12] you will see one public by now and he [15:14] said definitely not. And um [15:16] >> it's been 6 months [15:17] >> I think. So yeah, sorry Tra [15:18] >> That was like three weeks ago. [15:20] >> Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry to break that [15:21] to you. [15:23] Um, Prime, I want to hear more about the [15:25] stories that you had. [15:27] >> Which stories? [15:28] >> The ones at the beginning. I thought we [15:30] were going to talk about them. [15:32] >> Oh, yeah. We can talk about the stories. [15:34] All right. For those Yeah. I mean, I [15:36] That's That's totally cool. Uh, I think [15:38] this is my I mean, this is obviously the [15:40] probably the the most hilarious of them [15:41] all. Do you want to hear about this? [15:45] >> Is this Is this a video on it, so that's [15:47] why I wasn't sure if you actually wanted [15:48] to hear about this, but this is Oh, no. [15:50] I just moved my chat. There we go. Oh, [15:52] yeah. We're back into place. Uh this one [15:54] right here that you can see uh obviously [15:56] on the screen cuz it's very clear and [15:57] it's definitely the proper size and [15:58] everything and you're not having [15:59] problems seeing it. That [16:02] >> is uh a text message back and forth. So [16:05] this is a a head of safety and AI [16:08] alignment at Meta. So this person should [16:09] be knowing a lot about how AI works. [16:12] How's that? [16:12] >> Open claw zoom. Open claw enhance. Open [16:16] claw. Sorry. Go ahead. [16:17] >> Oh my god. [16:19] >> It's Why do people trust this? [16:22] their data. [16:23] >> Great question, Bash. Great question. [16:25] >> So, this is the most confusing part [16:26] about the whole thing is that they it is [16:30] that any like so many people are [16:32] launching into this so fast to kind of [16:34] put into perspective. Linux has 218,000 [16:37] stars. Open Claw has like 221,000 stars [16:41] last time I checked. [16:42] >> That's insane. [16:43] >> So, that's how it came out in November [16:45] or October. [16:47] >> So, it's like a straight up curve. they [16:49] are immediately like everybody's jumping [16:51] on to this idea of a personal assistant. [16:53] And I think I understand why it'd be [16:54] convenient if I just had somebody that's [16:56] like, "Yo, find me flowers and make [16:58] their sure they come on this date." And [16:59] I could just like say that and then it [17:00] just goes off and does things like I see [17:02] the appeal of having something I can [17:03] just tell to do a bunch of stuff to. [17:05] >> Yeah. [17:06] >> But also if you just read the text in [17:07] here which is it it says no, do not do [17:10] that. No, stop. Stop. Like just over and [17:12] over again. [17:13] >> Just a little more context. People do [17:15] not know the story. [17:16] >> Okay. The story is very very simple. uh [17:18] the head of alignment and safety at [17:20] Netflix decides to give OpenClaw a [17:21] whirl. [17:22] >> No, [17:22] >> sorry at Meta. Gives OpenClaw a whirl, [17:25] hooks it up to uh her email and then I [17:28] assume the thing that happened before [17:30] this was please clean out my inbox for [17:33] all like a bunch of old junk mail or [17:34] something like that. and it decides that [17:37] effectively 24 hours and older is bad [17:40] emails and just starts deleting [17:42] everything that's 24 hours and older and [17:44] just keeps on going as fast as possible [17:46] until she can get to her computer and [17:47] control C it [17:49] >> cuz she didn't know how to stop it from [17:50] her phone. [17:51] >> Yeah, I love exec nuclear option nuclear [17:55] options sends me. [17:57] >> Yeah. Yeah. Do not do that. Like [18:00] >> it's like it's like when you're when you [18:02] have a dog and your dog is like eating [18:03] something. You're like no stop. Don't [18:05] eat the trash. Like it's like you're [18:07] This is like a dog in this in this [18:10] dog to stop it, but you can't. [18:12] >> Yeah. [18:13] >> You're trying to grab the chicken bone [18:14] out of its mouth like while it's [18:17] >> They're pooping on the carpet. DON'T [18:18] POOP ON THE FLOOR. [18:19] >> For me, nuclear option. [18:21] >> Nuclear option. [18:22] >> Trash. That is so funny. For me, it's uh [18:24] when the dog starts making the throat [18:25] sound [18:27] and you're laying in bed and you're you [18:29] YOU'RE LIKE YOU'RE RUNNING out of bed, [18:31] the blankets on you and you're like, [18:32] "No, don't do it." It's just like on the [18:35] carpet. My dog always runs for the [18:37] carpet as opposed to running for like [18:38] the the hardwoods. So, because you know, [18:40] it's like grass [18:41] >> and so I think she's like trying to be [18:43] helpful or something. I'm not really [18:44] sure what's going on, but every [18:45] >> No, she's fighting you, bro. She's [18:47] fighting you. This is like, dude, my cat [18:49] did that, but my cat would jump off the [18:50] bed and go underneath the bed to where I [18:52] can't grab him. And I'm just And I'm [18:54] just like I'm like trying to reach like [18:56] underneath the bed. I'm like, "No." And [18:58] my cat's just like [19:00] I'm just like, "No." I'm And then after [19:03] like a minute. I'm like [ __ ] [19:05] fantastic. Guess I'm cleaning that up at [19:08] 4 in the morning. I hate it. [19:10] >> So open PTSD from that [19:12] >> that people are giving all of their [19:13] ether. [19:15] >> Yeah. You know what? I don't even want [19:16] to try open call anymore. [19:17] >> It might puke on the rug. [19:18] >> It might puke on the rug. [19:20] >> There is one I forgot I forgot to put [19:21] this one in, which I am a little bit uh [19:24] surprised. I can't tell if this is [19:26] actually real or not real. Like at this [19:28] point in life, I can't tell when things [19:30] are actually just we're we're faking [19:31] stuff. I forgot I had my transitions on. [19:32] So, just [19:33] >> transitioned on us, bro. [19:35] >> Sick transition, dude. [19:37] >> In case we forgot his name. [19:40] >> Oh, you're the private jet. Oh, okay. [19:41] Okay. [19:42] >> Holy [ __ ] That's the private jet. [19:43] >> Yeah. Welcome, guys. So, I know that [19:45] this is from programmer humor, but this [19:47] is the state of affairs we're currently [19:49] in with OpenClaw, which this one's [19:50] kernel mode. You just they're jokingly [19:52] or this is actually dead serious. I [19:54] never actually went and figured it out, [19:56] which is that it can just apparently [19:58] operate as pseudo. You just give it [19:59] pseudo privileges at all times and it [20:01] just can go in and out of any privileged [20:02] access that it needs. I know this is [20:04] generally a joke, but people would use [20:06] this immediately. [20:07] >> Yeah. [20:08] >> And go and be like, "Oh, yeah. We should [20:09] just give it always have it have as much [20:11] access as possible." So if it just needs [20:13] to delete root, it can just delete root [20:14] or read anything from anywhere. Like we [20:16] should just let it have that. Like that [20:17] is going to be the final state of this [20:19] all. Even though I don't think this I [20:21] mean I I don't believe that's real at [20:23] all. Uh I think someone can even build [20:25] it right now. I don't even know if it's [20:26] possible to build. [20:27] >> It will be. [20:28] >> Are people like self-hosting the the [20:30] model? [20:32] >> No. [20:32] >> Yeah. [20:33] >> Not usually. [20:34] >> Minis, right? I thought everyone's [20:35] buying Max. [20:36] >> You guys You guys are so All right, [20:39] let's break out the whiteboard. [20:41] >> Yeah. Can Yeah, someone someone in chat [20:43] is also confused about the Mac minis. [20:46] Where do they fall into this? [20:47] >> So, okay. So, you buy one of these. [20:49] Okay. You buy one of these. [20:51] >> Oh, you got one. Okay. Club local host [20:53] later. So, he has to have his cloud bot [20:55] ready. [20:55] >> This is my This is the key card that I [20:58] use to get into Club Local Host. Okay. [21:00] You can't just show up and say, "Oh, I'm [21:02] running it in the cloud." No, no, no. [21:03] You have to have one of these. [21:04] >> What do you buy this for? It's so that [21:06] it can do iMessage. That's the only [21:09] reason people are buying this. They are [21:10] paying on their their clawed pro max [21:14] $200 a month to then run this [21:16] separately. Okay. They're not going to [21:18] This is just a box. [21:20] >> Yes. [21:21] >> Why aren't they using WhatsApp? [21:23] >> What models do you think they have that [21:25] they can run locally fast enough to go [21:28] do everything in their life and go do [21:30] modal things and everything? [21:31] >> Very fair. [21:33] >> $600. [21:34] >> There's no [ __ ] way. one one [21:37] trillion% one trillion%. [21:40] They are not hosting their models [21:42] locally on this. [21:44] >> So, let me get this straight. People are [21:45] buying thousands of dollars worth of [21:48] computer to get access to iMessage. [21:50] >> Yes. And the other thing, the other [21:52] thing, the other reason you use this, [21:54] all the websites check to see if it's [21:57] coming from a stupid Safari browser on [21:59] Mac and say, "Oh, it's probably not a [22:01] bot." cuz no one's stupid enough to buy [22:03] hardware to run their bot farms on a [22:06] Mac. So you get captured less and other [22:08] things less. That's the other reason [22:09] that people are doing that. [22:11] >> God. [22:11] >> Yeah. [22:13] >> I'm I'm one I'm one trillion% serious. [22:16] They are not running local models. You [22:18] cannot run a serious model on just one [22:20] of these. [22:20] >> Yeah, but you could probably want to run [22:22] a 1.5bit quantized Kimmy K on there. [22:25] >> Quick question, Prime. You It's already [22:27] stupid to hook up your whole life to an [22:29] AI model. You want to give it to a one [22:32] that's an imbecile. Is that Is that your [22:36] contention? [22:37] >> Okay, fair point. Fair point. [22:38] >> Okay. Oh, I want to put it on the [22:40] slowest dumbest version of the personal [22:42] assistant possible that [22:45] come on. [22:45] >> Wait, so what model are are people using [22:47] different models with with Claude? [22:50] >> Open AI bought basically bought they [22:53] hired the guy. You can use any model you [22:55] want. You just put in a different key [22:56] and it will just say, "Oh, I want 5.3 [22:58] Codeex to run it or I want 4.6 6 Opus or [23:00] I want whatever, but they're definitely [23:01] not local hosting the model. [23:03] >> Okay. I thought because there are some [23:04] people that have like the series of Mac [23:06] minis all hooked together. I think those [23:08] ones are because they have 64 uh gigs of [23:10] unified memory on them. [23:12] >> Yeah, but that's not the same person who [23:14] buys this, turns openclaw on, hooks it [23:16] up to the internet and says, "Please, [23:18] anyone access my whole entire life?" [23:21] >> That's insane. Oh my god, the privacy is [23:24] dead. There's there's not only they are [23:26] shipping their entire life up to the [23:28] model to the cloud provider saying every [23:30] every single thing every email that you [23:32] have every single question you have [23:34] everything not even just like oh what I [23:35] happen to type in Chetch they're like [23:37] have my whole life put it in there yes [23:38] it is one trillion% people are not [23:41] running these locally [23:42] >> the FBI is like finally [23:45] >> yeah yeah right NSA has never been [23:48] happier ever they're like oh there's [23:49] that many people with open okay cool [23:52] >> yeah with completely completely open [23:54] open clause. They just go troll around [23:56] on the internet. They can find them. [23:57] Yeah. [23:58] >> Yeah. [23:59] >> So, that is that is kind of like the [24:00] part one of the insanity that's [24:02] happening in the Silicon Valley. I [24:03] figured it's a good time to kind of move [24:05] on to part two. [24:06] >> Yeah. [24:06] >> Which part two uh this one's going to [24:08] have many points, but I think the one [24:10] that we just need to really just focus [24:12] in on is this right here. [24:14] >> This is my favorite one. [24:15] >> For those that have not seen this, [24:17] >> seen this. This you first off you'll [24:19] notice that if you look right next to [24:21] the guy in the center in the white I [24:22] forgot his uh name. He's the prime [24:24] minister of India, right? [24:25] >> Yes, that's correct. [24:26] >> Can you enhance this for? [24:28] >> No. [24:28] >> Uh no, there's this is [24:30] >> this is not going to get enhanced. This [24:32] is I'm playing this off of Windows Media [24:34] Player. [24:34] >> We see that, but I'm wondering why don't [24:36] you just press full screen. [24:38] >> I was going to say some press full [24:40] screen it freezes Riverside. [24:42] >> Okay. Well, don't do that. Don't do [24:43] that. You may have forgot how crazy uh [24:46] all [24:47] >> I'm 90% done with vibe coding a [24:50] riverside replacement. So [24:52] >> that by the way TJ that's every single [24:55] app ever created is Dude. Bro, I'm 90% [24:58] done. [25:00] >> Yeah. Well, check me out next week. [25:01] Don't need it anymore. [25:02] >> Check me check me out next week. We'll [25:04] be on We'll be on ours. [25:05] >> All right, let's do it. [25:06] >> I think Claw bot can make this less J. [25:08] >> Open Claw. Sorry. One sec. One sec. One [25:11] sec. be a Riverside clone right now. [25:15] >> All right, here we go. So, let's play [25:16] this. So, first uh Bash from our [25:19] perspective [25:21] uh the the guy on the right to the prime [25:23] minister of India is Sam Alman. The [25:25] person to his right or to our right is [25:28] uh is a CEO of anthropic Dario. [25:32] >> This is at a big AI summit in India. [25:34] >> Yes. [25:35] >> So, you can see behind it it's impact [25:37] summit. So this is like the biggest [25:38] thing. And so for whatever reason, [25:40] >> the prime minister has decided that [25:42] everybody needs to hold hands [25:44] >> at the end to show that they're [25:45] >> Look at that. And look at Sam. Look at [25:47] Sam put his hand away. Pull it away. [25:50] >> And then look at them. There's only two [25:52] people in there that are that are not [25:54] holding hands with the person next to [25:55] them. And it's Sam and Daario. Their [25:57] hands are spread apart right at the top. [26:00] Right there. Th [26:01] >> This is what I'm wondering. If you go [26:02] back like a couple frames, he looks [26:04] behind Daario to like the guy next to [26:06] him. Like, did he want to hold the other [26:08] guy's hand instead? Cuz he knew that [26:09] Dario's standing next to him, but he [26:11] still looks [26:12] >> Look at Sam. Like Sam is watch. He's [26:14] looking for someone else. See that? [26:15] Like, who's he? Look, he's looking [26:17] behind him. I think [26:17] >> Look at his looking over there. [26:20] >> That's my expression when I [26:21] >> He's like, "Yo, someone else trying to [26:22] hold hands. Like, where is he looking?" [26:25] >> That's actually such a good point. Did [26:26] he think he was going to just go around [26:27] Adaio and Dario just by himself? He's [26:30] looking. I honestly think that was going [26:31] through his head. He's like, I got to [26:32] hold someone's hand and it ain't his. So [26:34] maybe it's the other dude [26:35] >> because look at this. He starts with his [26:36] hand down. He look at him. He's looking. [26:39] He is contemplating Daario. [26:41] >> I wish this was pulled back just a [26:44] little bit further and we could see [26:45] Daario's expression at the same time. Is [26:47] Daario recoiling even more? [26:50] >> You know, is Daario is Sam like, "Oh, [26:53] maybe we will, maybe we won't." AND THEN [26:54] DAARIO'S LIKE, "OH MY GOODNESS, I WISH I [26:57] COULD." [26:57] >> Maybe Sam was like looking like Look at [26:59] that. Maybe he was getting ready to [27:01] >> They're both looking down at the hands. [27:02] Look at her. They're both looking down. [27:04] >> They're both They're both [27:06] They both see They both see that they're [27:09] the ones not holding hands, though. [27:10] That's for sure. That's for sure. [27:13] >> This makes me cringe so hard. Oh my god. [27:16] >> Oh, it makes I love it. Maybe. Okay, [27:19] hold on. So, now I'm actually I'm going [27:20] to actually have to say that Sam is [27:22] vindicated [27:24] >> and that it was Daario cuz here's why. [27:26] Cuz look at them. They were both looking [27:27] at the hands, right? [27:29] And then Sam looks like he's like, [27:31] "Okay." And he like leans it up and he [27:33] goes and he looks for like help like hey [27:36] like who am I am I supposed to hold your [27:38] hand? [27:39] >> Yeah. [27:39] >> Like maybe that's what's going on there. [27:40] He's just like uh they turn [27:43] >> look at the prime minister. He's like [27:44] Jesus. [27:46] >> Yeah. Yeah. I know. [27:48] >> I like [27:48] >> it's like it's like your dad watching [27:50] like your brothers fight or something. [27:51] He's like, "Oh my god, can't believe." [27:53] >> Do you think the prime minister was a [27:54] theater kid? Cuz this is kind of giving [27:56] theater kid energy. It is big time [27:58] theater kid energy. Great [27:59] >> in the show. You all hold hands and you [28:01] raise your hands up and you bow together [28:03] >> and then they got to say up to the crew [28:05] down to the pit. Thanks everyone for [28:06] coming. Exactly. [28:08] >> Yeah. Same energy. I like I don't know I [28:10] don't know if India has the same play uh [28:14] cultural mechanics that we do. So this [28:16] may just simply be [28:17] >> they're pretty timeless. [28:18] >> We are all No, I don't know if it's [28:20] timeless. We're all going to uh we're [28:22] all trying to shape the future together. [28:24] Everyone hold hands in unison is how I [28:26] read that. Not as a theater kid ends a [28:28] show. [28:30] >> I like Bash's interpretation better. [28:32] >> Okay, [28:34] >> fair. [28:35] >> And then they're the two kids that were [28:36] in the in the crew that were mad at each [28:38] other because they both didn't get head [28:40] crew member because they don't play nice [28:42] with others and they're like, I deserve [28:43] that spot. I should have been manning [28:45] the spotlights. [28:46] >> Wait, what was the song with Michael [28:48] Jackson where they all hold hands? Heal [28:49] the world or something. [28:50] >> Beat it or we are the world. No, [28:52] >> it's not beat. I know what it is. It's [28:54] It's I know. It's a black or white. It's [28:56] black or white. [28:57] >> No, it's like a song where everyone has [28:59] a part in it and they all sing like [29:00] their own section. [29:02] >> Ebony and Ivory. [29:04] >> Heal the world. Isn't it Isn't like [29:05] something in the world? Heal the world. [29:06] Someone in chat knows. [29:08] >> It's like we are [29:09] >> Hey, we're not allow We're not allowed [29:11] to uh like Michael Jackson. [29:12] >> Oh, we are the world. I was right. [29:13] Someone the world. This is like the [29:15] modern day we are the world but for AI. [29:17] >> And then they didn't hold hands [29:20] >> and then no one [29:21] >> Oh, you don't want to you don't want to [29:22] like solve [29:24] Can you play it out in real time, too, [29:26] to get a feel for how long they're [29:27] standing there at the end? Because it's [29:29] a long time where they're both just [29:30] going like this. [29:32] >> Yes. Hold on. Let me let me get Let me [29:34] get it back. Let me get it back on there [29:35] because that at the end. [29:36] >> Yeah. They start touching forearms. So [29:38] weird. [29:39] >> They are. That's [29:41] >> They're literally just rubbing forearms [29:43] together, dude. [29:44] >> So, there we go. We're multiple seconds [29:46] in at this point. [29:49] Oh, but I do like this right here. Hold [29:50] on. I'm going to slow it down. Daario [29:52] still has not done it. Sam's cheering by [29:54] himself, but Daario still has his hand [29:56] down. [29:57] >> There you go. [29:58] >> Oh, and they just hit shoulders and then [30:00] they stand here at least for another [30:01] five seconds for photos and then my [30:04] video cuts off, but they continue to [30:05] stand there for photos. [30:06] >> Yeah, I love that. [30:08] >> Okay, I will say Dario is has his hand [30:10] aggressively down. [30:12] >> That's See, that's kind of what I was [30:13] saying. I it kind of looked like [30:16] >> number one they're probably surprised [30:17] cuz I'm sure their PR teams would have [30:19] told them you guys have to hold hands or [30:20] not stand next to each other like if you [30:22] can't play nice don't play at all [30:23] situation here but so they're surprised. [30:27] It looks to me like Sam is trying to [30:30] figure out how to hold Daario's hand and [30:32] Daario's like I'll sue you. I will say [30:34] that you were trying to distill our [30:35] models. Okay. You were trying to osmosis [30:39] steal my energy you demon. [30:43] It is. Yeah, Dario was working for [30:45] OpenAI at one point. He left over safety [30:47] concerns and now he runs Anthropic, [30:51] >> which is kind of surprising. [30:52] >> They just get rid of their safety stuff. [30:54] Didn't they just like water down their [30:56] safety box? [30:56] >> Yes. Which is very, very funny because [30:58] Open AI watered down their safety stuff [31:00] not too long ago and now Anthropic just [31:04] got done watering down theirs. [31:07] >> All right. You know what? I'm team [31:09] Daario. [31:10] >> What? [31:12] your team Dario. [31:13] >> Wait, how did that how did that work [31:15] with Dario? [31:16] >> Oh, [31:16] >> like nobody likes Sam. Everybody hates [31:19] Daario. There's a big [31:22] >> Oh, well. [31:23] >> Oh, sorry guys. I'm I'm I'm under a [31:25] rock. Okay. This is the first time I've [31:26] ever heard of Daario. I don't know who [31:28] he is. [31:28] >> I'm team I'm team open Code. There we [31:30] go. That's what I got. [31:32] >> They're actually, believe it or not, not [31:33] competitors. [31:36] >> I'm just saying I'm just talking about [31:37] AI people with AI monies right now. [31:39] Okay. [31:40] >> Okay. Got it. [31:42] >> I'm going to come over a model. I'm [31:43] calling it prediction. [31:44] >> DJ, are you going to explain to Bash the [31:46] things because you looked like you were [31:47] getting ready to explain. [31:47] >> Oh, sure. Well, sort of. I mean, we've [31:50] talked about this a few times, so sorry [31:52] uh chat and or audience if you're bored [31:54] of us saying this, but in general, I [31:56] always get the vibes from Anthropic that [31:58] they really want to be my dad. Like, I [32:00] already have a dad who actually loves me [32:02] and wants the best for me. I don't need [32:04] Daario thinking that he knows what's [32:06] best for me. So, I I'm not a fan of them [32:09] because it always feels like as soon as [32:11] they get one step ahead, they'll pull [32:13] the ladder up as fast as they possibly [32:14] can, lock everyone else out, and make [32:16] sure that they're the only people [32:17] allowed to make AI cuz they know best. [32:19] >> Oh, true. They did that. [32:20] >> And I don't that's I'm not in if we're [32:23] going to have AI, I would rather have [32:25] like competing models or like open [32:27] models or some other stuff where they're [32:30] trying to serve me the best that they [32:31] can to get all my money as opposed to [32:33] thinking that they're my dad. I don't [32:35] like that very much. [32:37] >> Yeah, [32:37] >> that's fair. [32:38] >> Yeah. And every interview I see with [32:40] Daario, he just gives me that feel of [32:42] like, well, I know better than Well, [32:44] it's more like, well, I know better than [32:45] everyone. [32:46] >> I feel like I've kind of concluded I [32:48] don't want to be in a room with any of [32:49] the any of these AI CE. [32:53] >> That's probably the best take. Yeah, [32:55] that's smart. That's smart. [32:56] >> So, I don't I don't watch any of their [32:58] interviews or follow any of their stuff [32:59] on Twitter. I like I I like mute it, you [33:01] know? I'm like I don't [33:02] >> Good. I I got the monkey on my timeline. [33:05] I'm I'm living peacefully. [33:07] >> Yeah, me too. Punch the monkey, baby. [33:09] Let's go. [33:10] >> Poor poor little guy, [33:12] >> dude. He got He was getting hugged now. [33:13] Now he has best friends. Uh, by the way, [33:15] someone just said anthropic bros are [33:17] what? Kickier [33:20] would have [33:23] kavicular kavicular kavicular. [33:25] >> You're so close. [33:26] >> You're still believe it or not. [33:28] >> Tropic bro is what looks maxing bro [33:30] would have been if he would have went to [33:31] Harvard. Very very funny. [33:36] >> Josh, put me in a put me in a Sigma Chad [33:38] face and do an edit quick. [33:42] >> All right. Uh, also, by the way, did you [33:44] know I don't know if you guys know this, [33:45] but this also feels like a Silicon [33:47] Valley episode. Does anyone remember the [33:49] uh Son of Antoine from from Silicon [33:52] Valley? I did not get the video, so I'm [33:54] very sorry because I thought I'd get [33:55] DMCA, so I just have to describe it as [33:57] opposed to to playing it on the show. [34:00] But [34:01] >> uh [34:02] son of Antoine [34:04] >> is the AI machine that Gilfoil creates. [34:08] >> And Gilfoil in one of the later episodes [34:11] tells it to clean up the code base and [34:12] ensure that there's no bugs. So it [34:14] deletes all the code [34:16] >> from the from the repo because that of [34:19] course would be the safest way to have [34:20] no bugs is no code at all. And then [34:22] right afterwards it orders 4,000 lbs of [34:24] hamburger because it wanted to find a [34:26] cheap way to have lunch for everybody. [34:29] That's so good. [34:30] >> Ahead of its time. [34:31] >> It's ahead of its time. Like this is [34:32] where Crazy watching Open Claw happen, [34:36] >> but it was actually Son of Antoine this [34:37] whole time. [34:38] >> Unbelievable prediction, honestly. [34:40] >> Best character. [34:41] >> It is actually a kind of goated move. I [34:42] would do that. [34:44] >> Yeah, [34:44] >> sounds like the move. [34:45] >> Yeah, delete the code base. [34:47] >> Delete the code base. [34:51] >> Stoked on the hamburgers, man. 4,000 lbs [34:53] of meat. Let's go. [34:55] >> It's a good day. community. [34:59] >> Hey guys, if you like this episode, you [35:01] can watch the rest of it on the Spotify [35:03] and don't forget to like and subscribe. [35:05] Woo! [35:06] See you later. [35:08] >> Up the day [35:10] five errors on my screen. [35:15] Terminal coffee [35:18] and [35:19] living the dream. ## Highlights - >> Cold dead hands. >> Yeah, I got a quick clarification on that, Prime. Yeah, >> there is 0% chance you wouldn't leak that that happened. >> Well, yeah, but it'd be by accident, not on purpose. >> Okay. There's a huge difference between the two. >> We would find out. >> All right. Uh, so I guess I guess the real question is has I know we're we're going to probably have a much different experience in the Y Combinator podcast uh of everyone dressed up as a lobster. Has anyone here tried out one of these AI personal assistants? ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjjhw1btay4jtbdnrszjdzjr)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - I was talking to some people will be. >> Yeah. I was talking to some people and they were like giving me like a little demo and I was like, "Man, that's pretty cool." So, uh, if I could just like build stuff while I'm just like chilling, eating pancakes somewhere, I'm going to try it. So, actually this past weekend, I started embracing vibe coding more. So, I started vibe coding a lot of like iOS apps. So, I'm going to start using like these agents so I can just start prompting from wherever I am. It does. >> It's pretty different though than the the assistant thing. Like, I've been doing a lot of remote like cloud stuff. I I've done like two billion tokens in ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjjhw1c619gj12zjn1rhhm46)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - AI was like that's a little too aggressive for a title. >> Trash. Quick question. Does she know that you're building this? >> No. She tried to She like walked up one time and I closed my laptop. I was like I'm I'm just going to hit you with like photo evidence and she's probably either going to divorce me or she's going to use it against me. So I'm going to let her use it too and we're just going to like battle test each other. >> The problem is it's going to you're going to find out afterwards. You're the one that's always doing it 10 times as often. >> I think my wife's listening. Are you outside the door listening? ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjjhw1d6br63j62vv50pqp22)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - My wife is literally listening to the conversation. She get >> My wife is literally listening outside the door right now. >> Bring her in. >> Bring her on the pod. >> Bring her on the pod. Trash. Come on. >> Don't do it. Trash. Come on. >> I'm not exposing my wife to the internet. >> Go away. >> I heard you're like eating a bowl of cereal outside on the door. Ridiculous. >> That I'm putting that on the app. Another instance. going in. Receipt number ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjjhw1e5s4p6btndx460bcqv)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - to I want to feel it all. >> Smart. >> I'll tell you what though, I'm in I'm in Prime's old codebase at work. AI cannot help me in that codebase. Insane. >> That's a wonderful absolutely insane. >> Did you figure out how focus works? No, you didn't. >> I don't know. I don't know anything. I don't know anything about anything. It's insane. >> Okay, for those that don't understand, uh, Gibbon, which is what he's dealing with, NRDP, Netflix ready device platform. Uh, >> oh, is that what that means? Never knew that. >> Okay, team, bro. ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjjhw1h4agq9jygy33fb34vd)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - >> is uh a text message back and forth. So this is a a head of safety and AI alignment at Meta. So this person should be knowing a lot about how AI works. How's that? >> Open claw zoom. Open claw enhance. Open claw. Sorry. Go ahead. >> Oh my god. >> It's Why do people trust this? their data. >> Great question, Bash. Great question. >> So, this is the most confusing part about the whole thing is that they it is ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjjhw1k5hmaekawyhdzxzetm)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - that any like so many people are launching into this so fast to kind of put into perspective. Linux has 218,000 stars. Open Claw has like 221,000 stars last time I checked. >> That's insane. >> So, that's how it came out in November or October. >> So, it's like a straight up curve. they are immediately like everybody's jumping on to this idea of a personal assistant. And I think I understand why it'd be convenient if I just had somebody that's like, "Yo, find me flowers and make their sure they come on this date." And I could just like say that and then it ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjjhw1q7x91dth62gt6xpkvc)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted ## New Highlights added 2026-03-02 at 11:16 AM - >> Cold dead hands. >> Yeah, I got a quick clarification on that, Prime. Yeah, >> there is 0% chance you wouldn't leak that that happened. >> Well, yeah, but it'd be by accident, not on purpose. >> Okay. There's a huge difference between the two. >> We would find out. >> All right. Uh, so I guess I guess the real question is has I know we're we're going to probably have a much different experience in the Y Combinator podcast uh of everyone dressed up as a lobster. Has anyone here tried out one of these AI personal assistants? ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjqn4de3tcx33r8n7tqr0yha)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - I was talking to some people will be. >> Yeah. I was talking to some people and they were like giving me like a little demo and I was like, "Man, that's pretty cool." So, uh, if I could just like build stuff while I'm just like chilling, eating pancakes somewhere, I'm going to try it. So, actually this past weekend, I started embracing vibe coding more. So, I started vibe coding a lot of like iOS apps. So, I'm going to start using like these agents so I can just start prompting from wherever I am. It does. >> It's pretty different though than the the assistant thing. Like, I've been doing a lot of remote like cloud stuff. I I've done like two billion tokens in ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjqn4degrb3cg7tde58cjcat)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - AI was like that's a little too aggressive for a title. >> Trash. Quick question. Does she know that you're building this? >> No. She tried to She like walked up one time and I closed my laptop. I was like I'm I'm just going to hit you with like photo evidence and she's probably either going to divorce me or she's going to use it against me. So I'm going to let her use it too and we're just going to like battle test each other. >> The problem is it's going to you're going to find out afterwards. You're the one that's always doing it 10 times as often. >> I think my wife's listening. Are you outside the door listening? ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjqn4dfxvq30em697gd1nqe7)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - My wife is literally listening to the conversation. She get >> My wife is literally listening outside the door right now. >> Bring her in. >> Bring her on the pod. >> Bring her on the pod. Trash. Come on. >> Don't do it. Trash. Come on. >> I'm not exposing my wife to the internet. >> Go away. >> I heard you're like eating a bowl of cereal outside on the door. Ridiculous. >> That I'm putting that on the app. Another instance. going in. Receipt number ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjqn4dgwyy6jrhpecvj71j03)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - to I want to feel it all. >> Smart. >> I'll tell you what though, I'm in I'm in Prime's old codebase at work. AI cannot help me in that codebase. Insane. >> That's a wonderful absolutely insane. >> Did you figure out how focus works? No, you didn't. >> I don't know. I don't know anything. I don't know anything about anything. It's insane. >> Okay, for those that don't understand, uh, Gibbon, which is what he's dealing with, NRDP, Netflix ready device platform. Uh, >> oh, is that what that means? Never knew that. >> Okay, team, bro. ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjqn4dkscnmt4ay2w43ffjfg)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - >> is uh a text message back and forth. So this is a a head of safety and AI alignment at Meta. So this person should be knowing a lot about how AI works. How's that? >> Open claw zoom. Open claw enhance. Open claw. Sorry. Go ahead. >> Oh my god. >> It's Why do people trust this? their data. >> Great question, Bash. Great question. >> So, this is the most confusing part about the whole thing is that they it is ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjqn4dnvq0q3h932n43can5h)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - that any like so many people are launching into this so fast to kind of put into perspective. Linux has 218,000 stars. Open Claw has like 221,000 stars last time I checked. >> That's insane. >> So, that's how it came out in November or October. >> So, it's like a straight up curve. they are immediately like everybody's jumping on to this idea of a personal assistant. And I think I understand why it'd be convenient if I just had somebody that's like, "Yo, find me flowers and make their sure they come on this date." And I could just like say that and then it ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01kjqn4dssxavs1c7zdsmvtmne)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted