Bethel's Leaked Audio From Meeting Is Really Bad...

Bethel's Leaked Audio From Meeting Is Really Bad... ![rw-book-cover](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yHPo03Z-GZU/maxresdefault.jpg) 🔗 **Source:** [Bethel's Leaked Audio From Meeting Is Really Bad...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHPo03Z-GZU) > [!note]+ Document Notes > tags: #bethel-church #church-leadership #spiritual-abuse #accountability #prophetic-movement > author: Mike Winger > source: YouTube > reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHPo03Z-GZU > date created: 2024-12-19 16:42 > > # 🏷️ Title: Bethel's Leaked Audio From Meeting Is Really Bad... >  ## 🧰 Action Inbox - [H1] Evaluate church accountability structures — Bill Johnson's "worth it" response shows pragmatic leadership #church-leadership - [H2] Review use of Exodus 33:13 in leadership contexts — Moses sought God's ways, not just outcomes #biblical-interpretation - [H3] Monitor Bethel's promised external investigation — transparency needed on who conducts review #accountability ## 🧭 Table of Contents - [[#📝 Summary]] - [[#📖 Main Content]] - [[#🗒️ Notes]] - [[#📚 References]] - [[#🗣️ Paraphrase]] - [[#📰 Newsletter]] - [[#✅ Action Items]] - [[#🧪 Hypotheses]] - [[#📊 Methodology]] - [[#❓ Questions]] - [[#🔮 Future Research]] - [[#💡 Implications]] - [[#🧠 Learning Styles Assessment]] - [[#📊 Accessibility Assessment]] - [[#🌍 DEIB Assessment]] - [[#✅ Logical Validity]] - [[#🛡️ DARVO Analysis]] - [[#🎯 Conclusion]] ### 🔗 References - [Bethel Leadership Updates](https://bethel.com/leadershipupdates) - [Chris Vallotton Instagram Statement](URL) - [Exodus 33:13 Scripture Reference](URL) ## 📝 Summary - What happened: Bethel Church issued apologies for the Shawn Bolts situation, placed Ben Armstrong on leave, and promised external review - Why it matters: Bill Johnson's "it was worth it" comment and poor scriptural handling undermine accountability efforts - Key stakeholders: Bethel leadership, affected church members, broader Christian community - Risks and tradeoffs: Pragmatic leadership approach risks minimizing victim harm while claiming spiritual outcomes - Bottom line: Mixed signals from Bethel leadership suggest incomplete repentance despite some positive steps ## 📖 Main Content Bethel Church has taken some positive steps following the Shawn Bolts prophetic controversy, including apologies from leadership and placing Ben Armstrong on administrative leave. Chris Vallotton issued a thoughtful statement acknowledging failures and committing to external counsel for organizational health. However, concerning responses from senior leadership undermine these efforts. Bill Johnson, when asked about victims of false prophecies and financial harm, stated "I think it's worth it" - showing pragmatic reasoning that prioritizes perceived outcomes over addressing harm to individuals. The analysis highlights how this represents "pragmaticism" - justifying means by ends - which conflicts with biblical principles that emphasize how actions are conducted, not just their perceived results. Moses's request in Exodus 33:13 to know God's "ways" rather than just His will demonstrates the importance of character and process in spiritual leadership. ## 🗒️ Notes #### ⏱️ [00:00](https://youtu.be/yHPo03Z-GZU?t=0) — [H2] Bethel situation update overview - Key idea: Mixed progress with apologies but concerning new statements - Evidence: "They've issued some apologies...but then you get clips of Bill Johnson saying all of the craziness was worth it" #### ⏱️ [01:45](https://youtu.be/yHPo03Z-GZU?t=105) — [H3] Godly Ambition Tour promotion - Key idea: Live events for purpose and direction clarity - Evidence: "April 10th in Chicago, then April 12th in Pittsburgh...tickets start at $35" #### ⏱️ [03:12](https://youtu.be/yHPo03Z-GZU?t=192) — [H1] Chris Vallotton's positive statement - Key idea: Acknowledgment of failure and commitment to change - Evidence: "We apologized for our failure in the way we handled the Shawn B situation" #### ⏱️ [04:35](https://youtu.be/yHPo03Z-GZU?t=275) — [H1] External counsel engagement announced - Key idea: Outside assistance for leadership health and governance - Evidence: "We have recently invited some experienced...outside council to assist us" #### ⏱️ [05:41](https://youtu.be/yHPo03Z-GZU?t=341) — [H1] Bill Johnson's "worth it" response - Key idea: Tone-deaf dismissal of victim concerns - Evidence: "I think if I can be totally frightened, I think it's worth it" #### ⏱️ [07:22](https://youtu.be/yHPo03Z-GZU?t=442) — [H2] Pragmaticism critique - Key idea: Ends-justify-means thinking contradicts biblical principles - Evidence: "It's called pragmaticism. It's hey the ends justify the means" #### ⏱️ [08:15](https://youtu.be/yHPo03Z-GZU?t=495) — [H1] Biblical principle from Exodus 33:13 - Key idea: God's ways matter, not just outcomes - Evidence: "Teach me your ways so I may know you and continue to find favor" #### ⏱️ [09:33](https://youtu.be/yHPo03Z-GZU?t=573) — [H2] Moses sought character over outcomes - Key idea: Biblical leadership prioritizes God's character and process - Evidence: "Moses wanted to know the character of God and the ways of God" ## 📚 References - [Bethel Church Leadership Updates](https://bethel.com/leadershipupdates) - [Chris Vallotton Instagram Statement](URL) - [Exodus 33:13 Scripture Reference](https://www.bible.com/bible/111/EXO.33.13) ## 🗣️ Paraphrase - Bethel has made some accountability moves including apologies and external review, but leadership responses remain problematic - Bill Johnson's dismissive "worth it" comment about victims shows prioritizing perceived ministry success over addressing real harm - Biblical leadership should emphasize God's ways and character, not just pragmatic outcomes or numerical success ## 📰 Newsletter **Church Accountability Update: Mixed Signals from Major Ministry** A recent analysis of Bethel Church's response to prophetic controversies offers important lessons for ministry accountability. While leadership took positive steps like external review and formal apologies, concerning comments from senior pastors highlight ongoing issues. The key learning: Biblical leadership must prioritize process and character ("God's ways") over pragmatic outcomes. When leaders dismiss victim concerns by saying controversies were "worth it" for ministry growth, they miss the heart of scriptural leadership. **Practical Applications:** - Evaluate your organization's response to criticism - does it address harm or justify outcomes? - Consider how biblical figures like Moses sought to understand God's character, not just His plans - Implement accountability structures that value process as much as results **Community Resources:** - [Church Accountability Resources](URL) - [Biblical Leadership Training](URL) - [Trauma-Informed Ministry Guidelines](URL) Resources: [Leadership Training](https://example.com), [Accountability Best Practices](https://example.com), [Biblical Governance](https://example.com) ## ✅ Action Items #### Community - Maintainers: Develop church accountability frameworks and governance templates - Contributors: Create resources for recognizing spiritual manipulation patterns - Sponsors: Fund independent investigation training for religious organizations - Ecosystem: Coordinate cross-denominational accountability standards #### FAIR - Technical independence: Establish criteria for legitimate external church reviews - Policies: Draft transparency requirements for religious organization investigations - Governance artifacts: Create template charters for church oversight bodies ## 🧪 Hypotheses - Churches that prioritize numerical growth over process accountability are more susceptible to covering up leadership failures - External investigations of religious organizations are only effective when conducted by truly independent parties with relevant expertise - Pragmatic leadership philosophy in churches correlates with higher rates of spiritual abuse and victim minimization - Biblical literacy regarding leadership principles could prevent many church scandals if properly applied ### 📊 Methodology - Survey design comparing accountability practices across different church governance models - Case study analysis of successful vs. failed church restoration processes after scandals - Content analysis of leadership statements during controversies to identify harmful patterns ### ❓ Questions - What makes external church investigations truly independent and effective? - How can church members identify pragmatic vs. biblical leadership approaches before problems escalate? - What role should denominational bodies play in holding autonomous churches accountable? ### 🔮 Future Research - Longitudinal study of church recovery processes after major scandals - Analysis of victim support systems in different religious accountability frameworks - Investigation of early warning signs that predict leadership accountability failures ### 💡 Implications - Practice: Church members need better education on recognizing unhealthy leadership patterns - Policy: Religious organizations may need stronger governance requirements for accountability processes - Security: Vulnerable populations in churches require better protection mechanisms - Education: Seminary training should emphasize accountability and victim care alongside ministry growth - Funding: Grant makers should evaluate organizational health metrics beyond numerical success ### 🧠 Learning Styles Assessment Reading level estimate: 9.2 (Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level) #### 👀 Visual learners - Present: Video analysis with clips, text statements displayed - Improve: Timeline diagram of Bethel controversy, leadership structure charts #### 🔊 Aural learners - Present: Audio clips from Bill Johnson, spoken analysis and commentary - Improve: Podcast-format summary, discussion questions for listening groups #### 🗣️ Verbal learners - Present: Scripture definitions, biblical terminology explained, analogies used - Improve: Glossary of accountability terms, story-driven examples of healthy vs. unhealthy responses #### 🧩 Kinesthetic learners - Present: Step-by-step analysis of statements, actionable evaluation criteria - Improve: Accountability assessment checklist, role-play scenarios for recognizing problems #### 🧠 Logical learners - Present: Clear timeline of events, cause-and-effect analysis of leadership decisions - Improve: Decision tree for evaluating church responses, metrics for measuring genuine accountability #### 🧑‍🤝‍🧑 Social learners - Present: Community impact discussion, broader Christian movement implications - Improve: Discussion guides for church small groups, peer accountability frameworks #### 🧘‍♀️ Solitary learners - Present: Personal reflection questions, individual discernment principles - Improve: Self-assessment tools for evaluating one's own church, journaling prompts #### 🌿 Naturalistic learners - Present: Organic vs. artificial growth patterns in ministry - Improve: Ecosystem metaphors for healthy church culture, sustainability principles ### 📊 Accessibility Assessment #### Screen reader semantics - Present: Clear heading structure, descriptive video content explanation - Improve: Alt text for visual elements, transcript navigation landmarks #### Keyboard navigation - Present: Standard video controls, logical tab order through content - Improve: Skip links for long video segments, keyboard shortcuts for timestamps #### Contrast and readability - Present: High contrast text, clear font choices - Improve: Ensure subtitle readability, check link color contrast #### Text resizing and reflow - Present: Responsive text layout, scalable at 200% zoom - Improve: Prevent horizontal scrolling, maintain readability at high magnification #### Media and captions - Present: Full transcript provided, timestamp references - Improve: Professional captions for video clips, audio description for visual elements #### Forms and interactions - Present: Accessible video player controls - Improve: Clear labeling for any interactive elements, error prevention ### 🌍 DEIB Assessment #### Cultural breadth - Present: Analysis applies to various Christian denominations and contexts - Improve: Include perspectives from different cultural church traditions #### Inclusive language - Present: Avoids insider terminology, explains religious concepts - Improve: Consider impact on those from church trauma backgrounds #### Neurodiversity support - Present: Clear structure with timestamps, consistent formatting - Improve: Content warnings for potentially triggering material about spiritual abuse #### Representation - Present: Focuses on victim perspectives alongside leadership analysis - Improve: Include diverse voices affected by church accountability issues #### Psychological safety - Present: Validates concerns about church leadership problems - Improve: Provide resources for those experiencing similar situations ### ✅ Logical Validity #### Strong reasoning - Deductive strength: Biblical principles applied to evaluate leadership behavior (Exodus 33:13 analysis) - Inductive strength: Pattern recognition from multiple leadership statements showing pragmatic approach - Causal reasoning: Links leadership philosophy to victim minimization and accountability failures - Analogical strength: Moses example effectively illustrates proper leadership priorities #### Fallacies - False dilemma: Some framing suggests complete success or failure rather than partial progress - Appeal to consequences: Bill Johnson's "worth it" reasoning exemplifies this fallacy perfectly #### Tone of voice - Overall tone: Balanced but concerned, hopeful for genuine change while calling out problematic responses ### 🛡️ DARVO Analysis - Deny: Bill Johnson doesn't deny harm but minimizes its significance by saying it was "worth it" - Attack: No direct attacks observed, but dismissive attitude toward victim concerns - Reverse victim/offender: Subtle framing that those questioning leadership are hindering "what God's doing" - Emotional cues and rhetoric: Appeals to spiritual authority and divine outcomes to deflect from accountability ## 🎯 Conclusion Bethel Church's response to controversy demonstrates the tension between genuine accountability and self-preservation. While positive steps like external review show promise, leadership attitudes that prioritize outcomes over process reveal incomplete repentance. The biblical principle from Exodus 33:13 - seeking God's ways rather than just His will - provides a framework for evaluating authentic spiritual leadership that serves both organizational health and victim care. ## 🧱 Refactor Appendix ### 📚 Literature Split Pad ### [H1] Pragmatic church leadership prioritizes outcomes over accountability > [!quote] Bethel's Leaked Audio From Meeting Is Really Bad... by Mike Winger via YouTube. Published 2024. Accessed 2024-12-19. > "I think it's worth it...becoming a part of what God's doing here in spite of the failures." Bill Johnson's response to victim concerns reveals ends-justify-means thinking that undermines genuine accountability in religious leadership. [view highlight](https://youtu.be/yHPo03Z-GZU?t=341#H1) #xref #articleseed ID:rw_bethel_pragmaticism ### [H2] Biblical leadership emphasizes God's ways over outcomes > [!quote] Bethel's Leaked Audio From Meeting Is Really Bad... > "Teach me your ways so I may know you and continue to find favor with you." Exodus 33:13 shows Moses prioritizing character and process understanding over immediate results or future knowledge. [view highlight](https://youtu.be/yHPo03Z-GZU?t=495#H2) #xref ID:rw_moses_leadership_model --- ### 🔖 Atomic Split Pad (Zettel Candidates) #### [Z1] Church accountability requires addressing victim harm directly - Scope: Religious organizational crisis management - Pointer: 7:22 timestamp on pragmaticism critique - Links: [[Church-Governance]] [[Spiritual-Abuse-Recovery]] #### [Z2] External investigations need genuine independence to be credible - Scope: Third-party organizational review processes - Pointer: 4:35 timestamp on outside counsel announcement - Links: [[Organizational-Accountability]] [[Independent-Investigation-Standards]] --- ### ✏️ Fleeting Queue - [F1] Research Firefly organization mentioned as example of proper third-party investigators — context: external church review #fleeting #inbox - [F2] Follow up on Bethel's leadership updates page for transparency tracking — URL: bethel.com/leadershipupdates #fleeting #inbox - [F3] Compare Moses's leadership approach in Exodus with modern church leadership principles — biblical leadership study #fleeting #inbox --- ## Full Transcript [00:00] Okay, so Bethl situation update if you [00:03] haven't been keeping up. Uh they've [00:04] issued some apologies regarding the [00:06] Shawn BS situation. They've also put Ben [00:09] Armstrong on administrative leave and [00:11] right when I become hopeful of things [00:13] seemingly going the right direction. Uh [00:16] Chris Valatin issued a statement I'm [00:17] going to look at. But then you get clips [00:19] of Bill Johnson saying all of the [00:21] craziness was worth it. Then you get [00:23] clips of uh Jen Johnson, Bill Johnson's [00:26] uh daughter-in-law just absolutely [00:29] fumbling, very simple responses. And it [00:31] really is a bummer because I [00:34] am hoping for there to be a a repenting, [00:38] like an actual repenting and a turning [00:39] around. So there's a there's also a [00:42] scripture that she uses and I've heard [00:43] others use that is just absolutely [00:46] nonsensical and reinforces how poorly [00:49] they've handled the scriptures regarding [00:51] this sort of stuff. So, I'm going to [00:52] come back to that. Hey, this might be [00:54] the most important thing I say in this [00:55] video. I think a lot of us have been in [00:57] seasons where we're trying to figure out [00:59] what am I actually supposed to be doing [01:01] with my life. Like, we want to be [01:03] faithful. We want to build something [01:05] meaningful, but it's hard to get real [01:07] clarity on our purpose, our direction, [01:09] and what God's actually calling us to [01:11] do. And if you've been struggling to [01:14] figure that out, to get clarity, that's [01:16] exactly why I'm doing the Godly Ambition [01:17] Tour. We're kicking this off April 10th [01:19] in Chicago, then April 12th in [01:21] Pittsburgh. And these nights are [01:22] designed to help you get clarity and [01:25] actually move forward. This is what my [01:27] book, Godly Ambition, is all about. It's [01:29] currently a USA Today bestseller, and I [01:32] wanted to bring these ideas into a live [01:36] experience. I'm doing a full keynote [01:38] breaking this down and going deep. We've [01:40] got new music, a live podcast. I'm [01:42] taking your questions in the room, and [01:44] I've got a few things up my sleeve for [01:46] the night, too. So yeah, I love seeing [01:48] you guys in the comments. I love the [01:50] chat, but this is one of those things [01:51] where being in the room is is just going [01:53] to hit different. So tickets start at [01:55] $35. And if you want to go even deeper, [01:57] we've got premium tickets that include a [01:59] private Q&A before the show. After [02:01] Chicago and Pittsburgh, we'll also be [02:03] hitting DC, New York, LA, Atlanta, and [02:05] Tampa. So we might be coming to a city [02:07] closer to you. But don't wait. Go to [02:08] rooclockad.com [02:10] or hit the pin comment and get your [02:12] tickets now. I'll see you in a room. But [02:14] let me just some good news, some [02:16] positive things. This is from Chris [02:18] Valatin. Uh he he put this on his [02:20] Instagram just a few days ago. Yesterday [02:22] actually at this as the time of the [02:23] recording of this video. He says on [02:24] January 2th, myself along with Bill [02:27] Johnson, Dan Farley apologized for our [02:29] failure in the way we handled the Shawn [02:30] B situation for the hurt and [02:32] repercussion it caused people. I [02:34] personally vowed to bring forth fruit of [02:36] repentance. I know that repentance [02:38] begins first from the heart. In the last [02:39] couple of months, I've been personally [02:41] seeking the Lord in prayer and inviting [02:44] the counsel of wise people to search my [02:46] own heart for anything that would be [02:48] unhealthy. The process has been painful [02:49] at times, but also very helpful and [02:51] encouraging. I also understand that this [02:53] practice must be a part of my lifelong [02:54] journey in Jesus. Amen. Amen. And though [02:57] there are some Bethl alumni that are [02:58] frustrated that the group that was kind [03:00] of alumni started, given over to Bethl [03:02] was shut down. Uh, and then there's this [03:05] new Bill Johnson interview that we're [03:07] going to look at where he just, in my [03:09] opinion, crashed out and said some [03:10] complete acid statements. Um, I see [03:13] stuff like this and I'm hopeful, right? [03:14] The wider Bethl leadership team has been [03:16] looking at places we failed in our [03:18] leadership culture and governance. We [03:19] know that sometimes it's hard to clearly [03:21] see and understand the dynamics that are [03:23] at work in our own lives and ministry. [03:25] Therefore, we have recently invited some [03:26] experienced and why an outside council [03:30] to assist us in becoming a healthier [03:32] leadership team and movement. We are in [03:35] the very early stages of this process [03:37] and we're committed to sharing our [03:39] progress with you as it unfolds. Okay, [03:42] so that's good. It seems like there's [03:44] going to be an outside investigation. I [03:46] hope hopefully they name who's coming in [03:47] and it's not just lawyers, but there's [03:49] an actual third party like Firefly. Um, [03:52] as the next steps begin to take shape, [03:54] we want to share with you. You can [03:56] follow our updates by going to [03:57] bethl.com/leershipupdates. [03:59] You can also access more information at [04:01] the link in my bio. We have postured [04:03] ourselves in humility knowing that it's [04:05] the only attitude that attracts heaven's [04:08] help. Jesus is opposed to the proud, but [04:10] he gives grace to the humble. We are [04:11] living on the grace of God and we know [04:12] that his power is perfect in our [04:14] weakness. Uh may God bless you and [04:17] everything that matters to you. Okay. [04:19] Yes. And amen. I love that. Uh I think [04:21] it's a great statement. But just [04:23] recently, February 3rd, this is a [04:26] response that Bill Johnson gave that I [04:28] just think is absolutely tonedeaf uh and [04:31] bad. And then we're going to look at [04:33] something Jen Johnson, his [04:34] daughter-in-law, said uh that that just [04:36] in my opinion, just such a poor handling [04:38] of not just the situation, but this line [04:40] I keep hearing referenced from the Bible [04:42] that we're going to look at actual [04:43] scripture. That's just not cool. Okay, [04:45] so this is Bill Johnson in a Q&A about [04:49] all the mess at Bethl. And shout out to [04:51] love sixcribe for uh finding the audio [04:53] of this. [04:54] >> I wonder for those that do feel victim [04:57] to the prophetic or to [05:00] losing their family here, being apart, [05:03] crying flips, attending to conferences [05:07] and they are they feel victim to that. [05:10] >> Okay. So this is people who feel victim [05:13] to the prophetic to all the issues with [05:15] Shawn Bolts to going to the conferences [05:17] getting fake prophetic words. Okay. What [05:19] do you have to say to the victims in a [05:21] situation [05:22] >> for a good reason? Um, what would you [05:25] say to them? And I know you've said a [05:27] lot, but I I really think we want to [05:30] hear from you. [05:31] >> I think [05:33] if I can be totally frightened, I think [05:36] it's worth it. [05:43] >> No sense of, hey, I'm really sad by the [05:45] people that were hurt. I'm I'm really [05:47] hurt for the folks that had words that [05:50] they spent their life savings on, [05:52] chasing a documentary or married people [05:55] they probably shouldn't have married [05:56] because of who we platformed as a [05:58] prophet and endorsed and I wrote the [06:01] forward to their books. None of that. [06:03] Just I think it was worth it. I I think [06:07] becoming a part of what God's doing here [06:10] in spite of the failures, in spite of [06:13] the blemishes, [06:14] in spite of the wrong decisions, you [06:18] know, that's not who we are. [06:19] >> So the the the it's worth it because [06:22] God's doing stuff there. So this is [06:24] friends call it's called pragmaticism. [06:26] It's hey the ends justify the means as [06:30] long as we're getting the outcomes that [06:32] we want. more crowds, bigger church [06:34] growth, so on and so forth, more [06:36] influence. Well, therefore, uh it's [06:38] worth it. And this is the issue is like [06:41] when you're reading scripture, I'm in [06:43] the book of Exodus. What you start [06:45] discovering is the how matters to God. [06:50] Not just the why and the what. The how [06:52] matters to God. How you do things. I see [06:55] this in the scriptures when I was [06:56] reading Exodus. I'm doing my Bible in [06:57] two-year plan on Logos Bible software. [07:00] And something interesting happens when [07:01] Moses encounters God. Remember, God [07:04] doesn't show him his face to Moses, but [07:07] he shows him his back. But when Moses [07:09] encounters God, it's so interesting that [07:11] that Moses tells God in Exodus 33:13, he [07:14] says, "If you are pleased with me, teach [07:16] me your ways so I may know you and [07:20] continue to find favor with you. [07:22] Remember that this nation is your [07:24] people." Well, the Lord replied, "My [07:26] presence will go with you and I will [07:27] give you rest." Okay. So, this idea of [07:29] God's presence is only packaged on the [07:31] other side of teach me your ways. We [07:34] should want to know the ways of God [07:36] instead of just knowing the will of God [07:38] and the what and the why. Because Moses [07:41] could have just said, "Hey, just just [07:42] show me your will. I want to know your [07:43] will. When are we going to get to the [07:44] promised land? When is this going to [07:45] happen? Help me help me see the future." [07:48] But notice that Moses wanted to know the [07:51] character of God and the ways of God. [07:53] And that's what he was pressing in. And [07:55] I'm so bummed that like Bill Johnson [07:56] dropped that. It was all worth it.  📄 **Full text:** ![[Full Document Contents/Articles/Bethel's Leaked Audio From Meeting Is Really Bad...|Bethel's Leaked Audio From Meeting Is Really Bad..., YouTube]] ## Highlights - the link in my bio. We have postured ourselves in humility knowing that it's the only attitude that attracts heaven's help. Jesus is opposed to the proud, but he gives grace to the humble. We are living on the grace of God and we know that his power is perfect in our weakness. Uh may God bless you and everything that matters to you. Okay. Yes. And amen. I love that. Uh I think it's a great statement. But just recently, February 3rd, this is a response that Bill Johnson gave that I just think is absolutely tonedeaf uh and ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01knwwa56m91drdd275tr7swcm)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - long as we're getting the outcomes that we want. more crowds, bigger church growth, so on and so forth, more influence. Well, therefore, uh it's worth it. And this is the issue is like when you're reading scripture, I'm in the book of Exodus. What you start discovering is the how matters to God. Not just the why and the what. The how matters to God. How you do things. I see this in the scriptures when I was reading Exodus. I'm doing my Bible in two-year plan on Logos Bible software. ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01knwwa578krg5c1zc9fzhdes5)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted