Church Leadership: Authority, Power, & Influence ![rw-book-cover](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jGKM!,w_1200,h_675,c_fill,f_jpg,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep,g_auto/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09a71a0c-3b02-4393-a304-a8a831f4fca2_1280x720.jpeg) 🔗 **Source:** [Church Leadership: Authority, Power, & Influence](https://sacramentalcharismatic.substack.com/p/church-leadership-authority-power) > [!note]+ Document Notes > tags: [charismatic-theology, new-apostolic-reformation, spiritual-authority, church-leadership, continuationism, seven-mountain-mandate, spiritual-abuse, faith-deconstruction, biblical-theology, vineyard-movement, sabbatical] > author: Luke Geraty > source: sacramentalcharismatic.substack.com > reference: https://sacramentalcharismatic.substack.com/p/church-leadership-authority-power > date created: 2026-09-02 09:40 > > > [!info] Generated analysis — not the author's words. Sections below are machine-written > > from the captured source. Only text inside `> [!quote]` blocks is verbatim from the author. > > Do not quote or attribute any other line to the named author. > > > [!warning] Thin source — read the caveats first > > **1. Length.** 814 words, 16 paragraphs, one three-item list, one heading ("Influence for the Mission."). It's a returning-from-sabbatical reflection, not an argument paper. Several sections below are one or two lines and say so. > > **2. No books, no sources.** The post says the author spent seven weeks doing "a fair amount of reading" but names no title. Of the 12 outbound links, 10 are the author's own social accounts (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter — several linked twice), and 2 are Wikipedia (Seven Mountain Mandate; Cessationism versus continuationism). Zero links to the leaders named, the incidents alluded to, or any scholarship. The only cited material is Scripture (12 references). > > **3. Named people, unnamed incidents.** Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner, Bethel Church, and Benny Hinn are named as examples of "abuses" and "Word of Faith theology" with no specifics. Context supplied in Notes is mine, marked as such, not the author's. > > **4. Reader metadata.** Author field was the domain; set to Luke Geraty from the post's own "About the Author" paragraph. Reader's summary field is a JavaScript-required error string — ignore it. `site_name` shows substack.com. > > # 🏷️ Title: Church Leadership: Authority, Power, & Influence > <!-- deep-read:sections start --> ## 🧭 Table of Contents - [📝 Summary](#-summary) - [📖 Main Content](#-main-content) - [🗒️ Notes](#️-notes) - [📚 References](#-references) - [🗣️ Paraphrase](#️-paraphrase) - [📰 Newsletter](#-newsletter) - [✅ Action Items](#-action-items) - [🧪 Hypotheses](#-hypotheses) - [📊 Methodology](#-methodology) - [❓ Questions](#-questions) - [🔮 Future Research](#-future-research) - [💡 Implications](#-implications) - [🧠 Learning Styles Assessment](#-learning-styles-assessment) - [📊 Accessibility Assessment](#-accessibility-assessment) - [🌍 DEIB Assessment](#-deib-assessment) - [✅ Logical Validity](#-logical-validity) - [🛡️ DARVO Analysis](#-darvo-analysis) - [🎯 Conclusion](#-conclusion) ### 🔗 References - Source: https://sacramentalcharismatic.substack.com/p/church-leadership-authority-power (published 2026-09-02) - Linked from the post: Wikipedia — Seven Mountain Mandate · Wikipedia — Cessationism versus continuationism · the author's YouTube (@sacramentalcharismatic), Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter (@lukegeraty) - Scripture cited (author's citations, not links): 1 Cor 12:31; 14:1, 5, 39; 1 Tim 4:12; Titus 2:7; 1 Thess 1:7; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1; Phil 3:17; 2 Cor 5:11; 2 Cor 2:15 ## 📝 Summary **What this is.** Luke Geraty — a northern California pastor-theologian, back from a seven-week sabbatical — sets out a three-line New Testament framework for how Christians should think about *authority*, *power*, and *influence*, and offers it as a filter for hearing leaders who emphasize their own. **The setup.** He says his concerns "stem from my observations about some of the dangers within the Global Apostolic & Prophetic Movement / NAR world": self-proclaimed apostles who stress their apostolic authority, claim Pentecostal power, and pursue cultural influence through the Seven Mountain Mandate. He names Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner, Bethel Church, and Benny Hinn as sources of the abuses and theology that push people toward functional cessationism — a reaction he calls "understandable" while refusing to join it, because 1 Corinthians tells believers to "earnestly desire" the gifts. **The framework (the post's three bolded lines).** 1. God is the ultimate source of authority (*exousia*); "our authority is in Christ." 2. God is the source of all power (*dynamis*), "manifested largely through the work of the Holy Spirit." 3. Followers of Jesus "are called to use their influence for the glory of God and the sake of Christ's mission." **The one move he actually argues.** Lines 1 and 2 he calls "fairly standard Christian theology." Line 3 gets the only exegesis: three Greek words — *typos* (example/pattern, 1 Tim 4:12), *mimētēs* (imitator, 1 Cor 11:1), *peithō* (persuade, 2 Cor 5:11) — which he reads as the New Testament's picture of influence: relational, by example and persuasion, aimed at God's mission. **Where it lands.** He concedes the framework "doesn't particularly address the abuses or concerning methodology" but says it gives "pause when hearing statements that certain leaders make that tend to emphasize *their* authority, power, and influence." Closing lines: "The leader shouldn't be the hero of the story… God is the hero of the story," and the leader "shouldn't *force* his influence on others." Then: "What do you think?" **Bottom line.** A continuationist insider's reframe, not a critique. He keeps all three NAR categories and relocates their source (God, not the apostle) and their mode (example and persuasion, not institutional capture). He does not engage covering, alignment, apostolic governance, or any specific abuse — the framework is offered as a heuristic for listening, and he says so. ## 📖 Main Content **Genre and stance.** This is a pastor writing to his own stream. The publication is titled *The Sacramental Charismatic*, its site navigation carries a "John Wimber" section (Wimber founded the Vineyard movement in 1982), and the post's own vocabulary — "functional Cessationists," "earnestly desire," "Third Wave"-adjacent language about the Spirit's work — marks the author as continuationist by conviction. He opens by admitting he finds himself "either… in agreement with proposed ideas or [in] deep concern over the *implications* of certain teachings." The post is the "deep concern" half, written by someone who wants to stay inside the tent. **The diagnosis.** Paragraphs 2–3 name the problem: the "Global Apostolic & Prophetic Movement / NAR world," whose "self-proclaimed 'Apostles'… emphasize their apostolic authority, claim to have significant Pentecostal *power*, and are attempting to have cultural *influence* via their Seven Mountain Mandate." Then the casualty list: "abuses we have seen from Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner, Bethel Church, and throughout the Charismatic world." His pastoral worry isn't only the abuse but the reaction to it — people "become functional Cessationists," and he says he understands why, having once felt the same about Benny Hinn and Word of Faith. **The pivot.** Paragraph 5 is a single sentence: "Yet I cannot deny that the Scriptures provide a rich biblical theology" of the Spirit's work, including healings and miracles, and "we are taught to 'earnestly desire' miraculous spiritual gifts" (1 Cor 12:31; 14:1, 39), with Paul wanting all the Corinthians to speak in tongues and prophesy (14:5). This is the load-bearing claim of the post: the categories are biblical, so the response to their abuse can't be to discard them. **The framework.** The three bulleted lines assign each term a source. Authority → God, held "in Christ." Power → God, delivered by the Spirit. Influence → the believer's task, aimed at God's glory and mission. Note what the arrangement does: the first two terms are things God *has* and Christians *receive*; the third is the only one Christians *do*. That's why he spends his exegesis there. **The exegesis of influence.** Three word-studies, each with a primary text and cross-references: - *typos*, "set an example for the believers" (1 Tim 4:12; cf. Titus 2:7; 1 Thess 1:7) — a life as "an impression or pattern for others to imitate." - *mimētēs*, "Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ" (1 Cor 11:1; cf. Eph 5:1; Phil 3:17) — "relational influence because people observe someone and begin reproducing what they see." - *peithō*, Paul's ministry of "*persuading*" (2 Cor 5:11) — "trying to convince others by winning them for the cause of Christ." The conclusion he draws: "All of these New Testament concepts, as far as I can see, are connected to the idea of *influencing others* and are related to the Mission of God." Every one of these texts is about persons imitating persons inside or toward the church. None is about institutions or "mountains." He doesn't say that out loud; the contrast with the Seven Mountain Mandate is left for the reader. **The application.** He's candid about the limits: the basics "don't particularly address the abuses or concerning methodology." What they offer is a tell — leaders who "emphasize *their* authority, power, and influence." Two closing aphorisms carry the post's pastoral weight: "The leader shouldn't be the hero of the story… God is the hero of the story," and the leader "shouldn't *force* his influence on others… as 'our lives are a Christ-like fragrance' for the world to see (2 Cor 2:15)." **The housekeeping.** Paragraph 2 explains the silence — no preaching, leading, counseling, or writing for seven weeks — and plugs four social channels. The "About the Author" block repeats the plugs. That's 10 of the 12 links. ## 🗒️ Notes - **Reframe, not critique.** The post never argues *against* apostolic authority, spiritual power, or cultural influence as categories. It re-sources them. A reader who has left the NAR because the categories themselves were the harm will find this post keeps everything and moves the labels. A reader who wants to stay charismatic without the NAR's leader-cult will find it gives them language. Both readings are fair to the text. - **What's not here.** No mention of "covering," "spiritual fathers," "alignment," "apostolic centers," "honor culture," or the five-fold (Eph 4:11) apostle/prophet offices — the mechanics by which NAR authority is actually enforced. The post treats authority as a theological *source* question and skips the *structure* question. That's the gap between what he says and what an ex-NAR reader most needs addressed. - **Context for the names (mine, not the author's; he names no incidents).** Mike Bickle founded the International House of Prayer Kansas City; sexual-abuse allegations against him became public in October 2023 and IHOPKC announced its closure in 2024. Rick Joyner leads MorningStar Ministries (Fort Mill, SC). Bethel Church, Redding (Bill Johnson) is the NAR-adjacent megachurch behind Bethel Music and the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry. Benny Hinn is the televangelist most associated with Word of Faith / prosperity teaching; he publicly renounced prosperity theology in 2019. The Seven Mountain Mandate traces to a 1975 idea attributed to Bill Bright and Loren Cunningham and was popularized by Lance Wallnau in the 2000s. Verify any of these before quoting them onward; the post itself supports none of it. - **The Redding connection is not stated.** Bethel is in Redding, northern California. The author is "a pastor-theologian in northern California." The post doesn't say where he pastors or how close he is geographically to Bethel; the About page doesn't either. Don't infer. - **Translation mixing.** "Earnestly desire" (1 Cor 12:31) is ESV/NASB wording; "set an example" (1 Tim 4:12) is NIV/ESV; "our lives are a Christ-like fragrance" (2 Cor 2:15) is the NLT. Nothing wrong with that, but it means the last quote, the one doing the most rhetorical work, is from the most paraphrastic translation. Most translations render 2 Cor 2:15 as "we are the aroma of Christ *to God* among those being saved and those perishing" — the fragrance is toward God, perceived differently by two groups. The author reads it as influence "for the world to see." That's an application, not the plain sense. - **1 Thess 1:7 points where the author does not.** There the Thessalonian church, not a leader, "became an example (*typos*) to all the believers." It supports his point about relational influence but decenters the leader even further than he does — a congregation is the pattern. - **Continuationism as the non-negotiable.** The structure of the post is: abuses → understandable retreat → *but Scripture* → framework. The "but Scripture" step is where he parts ways with the deconstruction path many ex-NAR people take. He treats functional cessationism as the wrong exit, not as one option among several. For a reader whose own exit ran through exactly that door, this is the paragraph to sit with, and it's fine to disagree with it. - **"His influence."** The leader in the closing paragraph is "he." Almost certainly generic, but in a post about who holds authority in charismatic churches, the pronoun isn't nothing. - **Sabbatical reading.** Seven weeks, "a fair amount of reading," zero titles. The reflection is presented as "a mental note" made "the other day." Take it as a pastor's first thoughts on return, which is what he says it is. - **Publication signals.** Substack nav: Home · YouTube · John Wimber · Resources · Archive · Leaderboard · About. The Wimber tab is the strongest affiliation marker on the site. Wimber's Vineyard is the "Third Wave" that kept the gifts while rejecting Word of Faith and, later, distanced itself from the Kansas City Prophets (Bickle's circle) in 1991 — which makes the author's list of names a fairly standard Vineyard boundary-drawing. ## 📚 References - Geraty, Luke. "Church Leadership: Authority, Power, & Influence." *The Sacramental Charismatic* (Substack), 2026-09-02. 814 words. - Wikipedia, "Seven Mountain Mandate" and "Cessationism versus continuationism" — the post's only non-self links; neither fetched for this note. - Scripture: 1 Cor 11:1; 12:31; 14:1, 5, 39; 2 Cor 2:15; 5:11; Eph 5:1; Phil 3:17; 1 Thess 1:7; 1 Tim 4:12; Titus 2:7. Translation not stated; wording matches ESV/NIV in most places and NLT at 2 Cor 2:15. - Cross-references in the vault: [[Faith Deconstruction MOC]] · the NAR beginner-entrance wiki page · SJUCC worship-planning notes (Sept 2/7 jam, Dec 1 revisit). None of these were readable during this run (vault access blocked); links are by title. - Background on the named leaders is from general knowledge, not from the source. See Notes. ## 🗣️ Paraphrase I've been off for seven weeks — no preaching, no counseling, no posting — and mostly reading. Here's where my head is. A lot of what worries me in charismatic Christianity comes from the NAR world: self-appointed apostles talking up their authority, their power, and their plan to take over culture through the Seven Mountains. The abuse cases — Bickle, Joyner, Bethel — have pushed a lot of people to quietly stop believing the gifts are for today, and I get it; Benny Hinn once did that to me. But I can't get past the fact that the New Testament tells us to want the gifts. So here's how I'd frame the three words. Authority belongs to God and we hold it in Christ. Power belongs to God and mostly shows up through the Spirit. Influence is our job, and the New Testament describes it as being an example, being imitated, and persuading — all relational, all for God's mission. That doesn't fix the abuse, but it gives you a warning light: when a leader keeps talking about *his* authority, *his* power, *his* influence, something's off. God is the hero of the story, not the leader. What do you think? ## 📰 Newsletter **A Vineyard-stream pastor tries to keep the gifts and lose the apostles.** Luke Geraty (*The Sacramental Charismatic*) returns from a seven-week sabbatical with an 814-word reframe of the three words the New Apostolic Reformation runs on: authority, power, influence. His diagnosis is the standard insider one — self-proclaimed apostles, the Seven Mountain Mandate, and the Bickle/Joyner/Bethel abuse trail have turned a generation into "functional Cessationists." His fix is a three-line framework: authority is God's and held in Christ; power is God's and comes through the Spirit; influence is ours, and Paul describes it with three Greek words (*typos*, *mimētēs*, *peithō*) that all mean example, imitation, and persuasion — nothing about capturing institutions. He's honest that this "doesn't particularly address the abuses"; what it offers is a listening heuristic: watch for leaders who stress *their* authority. The post keeps every NAR category and moves the source and the method. Whether that's enough depends on whether your problem was the apostles or the categories. No books named, no incidents specified, ten of twelve links are his own socials. ## ✅ Action Items **DevRel** - Not applicable to this source. **OSPO** - Not applicable to this source. **Community** - The "leader shouldn't be the hero of the story" test generalizes to any community with charismatic (small-c) leadership — open source included. A maintainer who talks about *their* authority over the project is the same warning light. `#action/h4` **WordPress teams** (Core, Core Performance, Core AI, Core Program Team, Mobile, Playground, Community, Training, Marketing, Support, Design, Documentation, Photos, TV, Polyglots, Accessibility, Meta, CLI, Hosting, Tide, Openverse, Themes, Plugins) - Not applicable to this source. **The WPOCC** - Not applicable to this source. **FAIR** - Not applicable to this source. **Personal (Courtney)** - **File it under the NAR wiki page as a "stay-charismatic" insider response**, distinct from the exit literature. It's a clean example of how the Vineyard/Third Wave stream draws its boundary with the NAR: keep the gifts, reject the apostolic office and the Seven Mountains. Useful as a "what the moderate insiders say" citation on the beginner-entrance page. `#action/h2` - **Note the gap for your own map.** The post addresses the *source* of authority and skips the *structure* — covering, alignment, honor culture, five-fold offices. If your NAR page organizes harm by structure, this post is evidence that even sympathetic critics inside the stream don't engage that layer. `#action/h3` - **Sit with the "functional Cessationist" paragraph on your own terms.** He treats that exit as the wrong one. You don't have to agree, and nothing in the post argues the point — it asserts Scripture and moves on. If it's useful, the question it raises is "which door did I leave through, and was it the door or the building?" If it isn't useful today, leave it. `#action/h3` - **SJUCC worship-planning (Sept 7 jam).** The three *typos* / *mimētēs* / *peithō* texts are a ready-made reading set on leadership-by-example if the planning conversation touches who leads and how. The 1 Thess 1:7 cross-reference (a *congregation* as the example) fits a UCC congregational polity better than the author's leader-centered framing. `#action/h3` - **Don't propagate the name-list without checking.** The post names Bickle, Joyner, Bethel, and Hinn with no specifics. If you cite it, cite it for the framework, not as a source on the incidents. `#action/h3` ## 🧪 Hypotheses - **H-A:** Insider "reframe" posts like this one (keep the categories, re-source them) are the dominant response to NAR abuse from Vineyard/Third Wave writers, and structural critiques (covering, alignment, five-fold offices) come almost entirely from ex-members and outside scholars. *Testable by tagging the sources on the NAR wiki page by author stance and which layer they address.* - **H-B:** Readers who left the NAR because of a *leader* find the post's "God is the hero" heuristic useful; readers who left because of the *categories* find it changes nothing. *Testable informally against the deconstruction community's reactions to the post.* - **H-C:** The three Greek word-studies (*typos*, *mimētēs*, *peithō*) are a stable Vineyard teaching unit that predates this post. *Testable by searching the author's YouTube archive and Vineyard leadership curricula.* ### 📊 Methodology None to speak of, and the post doesn't claim one. It's a reflection: observation ("my observations about some of the dangers"), a scriptural pivot, a framework from "a mental note," and word-studies with cross-references. The exegesis is lexical (three Greek terms, each with a primary text and two cross-references) and the definitions given match standard lexicon glosses. No engagement with counter-readings, no secondary literature, no cases. Evidence standard: proof-texting done carefully. That's appropriate for the genre and inadequate for the claims about specific ministries, which are asserted as shared knowledge. ### ❓ Questions - What did he read on sabbatical? The post frames the reflection as the fruit of seven weeks' reading and names nothing. - Where does he pastor, and in what network? The "John Wimber" site section suggests Vineyard; the post and About page don't say. - Does he think apostolic *office* exists today, or only apostolic *function*? The framework re-sources authority to God but never says whether "apostle" is a live title. That's the question the NAR would ask him. - How would the framework handle a leader who says all the right things — "it's God's authority, not mine" — while running a covering structure? The heuristic detects vocabulary, not governance. - Is "functional Cessationist" a fair description of people who've left charismatic churches over abuse, or does it recast a safety decision as a theological error? - Why 2 Cor 2:15 in the NLT? The choice makes the verse about visibility to the world; most translations make it about God's perception. ### 🔮 Future Research - Read the two Wikipedia pages he links and compare their framing of the Seven Mountain Mandate and cessationism with his; both are the only external context he offers. - Check the author's YouTube archive for an earlier treatment of *typos* / *mimētēs* / *peithō* (H-C) and for any direct treatment of covering or apostolic office. - Pair this post with a structural critique (an ex-NAR or scholarly source that addresses covering and alignment) on the NAR wiki page so the "source" and "structure" layers are both represented. - Watch the comments on the post — he ends with "What do you think?" — for whether his own readers raise the structure question. ### 💡 Implications **For the NAR map.** Insider critiques can be sincere and still leave the load-bearing structures untouched. This post is a good specimen: it names the leaders, names the movement, keeps the gifts, and never mentions the mechanism by which authority is enforced. A map of NAR harm that separates *source claims* from *governance structures* will place this post correctly. **For anyone deconstructing.** The post offers a genuine middle path — charismatic, anti-apostle, leader-decentered — and tells you plainly it doesn't address the abuses. Both halves matter. It is one option, presented by someone who has chosen it; it doesn't argue that other options are wrong, beyond calling functional cessationism "understandable" and then declining it. **For leadership generally.** "The leader shouldn't be the hero of the story" and "watch for leaders who emphasize *their* authority" are heuristics that survive translation out of church contexts: open source projects, DevRel programs, any community with a founder. ## 🧠 Learning Styles Assessment **Read/write** — served. Short paragraphs, three bolded thesis lines, Greek terms in parentheses with glosses. **Visual** — one header image (1280×720 JPEG, empty alt). No diagrams; the three-line framework is the only structure. **Auditory** — the author's voice is conversational ("ha ha," "right?", "What do you think?"); the same content exists on his YouTube channel in other forms, unlinked to this post. **Kinesthetic** — nothing to do except reply in the comments. **Sequential** — the post follows problem → pivot → framework → application in order; no jumping needed. **Reflective** — the closing question and the admitted limits invite it. **Overall:** a pastor's blog post pitched at people already inside charismatic churches. Assumes the reader knows who Bickle, Joyner, Bethel, and Hinn are. ## 📊 Accessibility Assessment Assessment of the Reader-captured HTML. Not a WCAG audit of the live Substack page. #### Alternative text and non-text content The header image has `alt=""` and `"alt":null` in Substack's data attributes. It's decorative in effect, so empty alt is acceptable under 1.1.1 if it carries no information; whether it does can't be judged from the capture. #### Keyboard navigation Not testable from the capture. Substack's standard post template; no custom widgets in the body. #### Contrast and readability Not assessable from HTML. Heavy use of bold and italics — the three framework lines are entirely bold, and *authority / power / influence* are italicized on nearly every occurrence — which reads as emphasis but reduces the contrast between emphasized and plain text when everything is emphasized. #### Text resizing and reflow Plain paragraphs and one list; no tables or fixed-width content. Should reflow. #### Media and captions None. #### Forms and interactions None in the captured body. #### Standards reference WCAG 2.2 AA mapped loosely (1.1.1 Non-text Content, 1.4.3 Contrast, 1.4.10 Reflow, 1.3.1 Info and Relationships for the bold-as-heading pattern). No criteria can be marked pass or fail from this capture. ## 🌍 DEIB Assessment #### Cultural breadth Written from and for American evangelical-charismatic Christianity. "Global Apostolic & Prophetic Movement" is named but the examples are all US ministries. The Global South Pentecostal experience, where much of this movement's growth is, doesn't appear. #### Inclusive language "Followers of Jesus," "the Christian," "we." The leader in the final paragraph is "he" / "his influence." Generic masculine in a post about who holds church authority. #### Neurodiversity support Short paragraphs, explicit three-point structure, glossed Greek. Bold used for whole sentences rather than key terms, which flattens scanning. #### Representation One voice, a male pastor-theologian with "nearly twenty-eight years of church leadership experience." Survivors of the named ministries appear only as "a lot of people" who became functional cessationists — as a theological consequence, not as people with their own accounts. #### Psychological safety The post is explicitly critical of named living leaders and says the retreat from charismatic practice is "understandable." For a reader who left, that acknowledgment is real and rare from inside the stream. The next sentence, treating that retreat as a wrong turn, may land harder than the author intends. ## ✅ Logical Validity **Claims and their support.** - *NAR apostles emphasize their own authority, power, and cultural influence* — asserted as observation; consistent with the movement's public teaching (Seven Mountain Mandate is linked). Unsourced but not controversial. - *Abuses by Bickle, Joyner, Bethel have made people functional cessationists* — two claims. The abuses are asserted with no specifics or links; the causal effect on others' beliefs is asserted from pastoral observation. Plausible, unsupported in the text. - *Scripture teaches believers to earnestly desire the gifts* — supported by the cited verses, which say what he says they say. - *Authority and power are God's* — asserted as "fairly standard Christian theology." Fair. - *NT influence = example, imitation, persuasion* — supported by three word-studies whose glosses match standard lexica. The inference that these exhaust or define "influence" is his; the texts don't use the word. - *This framework gives "pause" at self-emphasizing leaders* — a heuristic, offered with its limit stated. **Fallacies.** None structural. One unstated step: the post contrasts NAR "cultural influence" with NT relational influence but never argues that the former is *unbiblical* — it just puts the NT texts next to the Seven Mountain link and lets proximity do the work. The 2 Cor 2:15 application stretches the verse (aroma *to God* → fragrance *for the world to see*). **Internal consistency.** Consistent. He says the framework doesn't address the abuses, then uses it only as a listening heuristic — the claim matches the use. **Verdict.** Valid as a pastoral reflection with a stated scope. Not a refutation of NAR teaching and doesn't claim to be. The named-leader paragraph is the weakest part: real enough to land, unsourced enough to be unquotable onward. ## 🛡️ DARVO Analysis Not applicable in the strict sense — the author isn't accused of anything and reverses no blame. Two adjacent observations. First, the post does *not* do what DARVO-adjacent insider writing often does: it doesn't say critics are "bitter," "wounded," or "attacking the Church." It calls their concerns "*valid*" and their retreat "understandable." Second, the reframe move — keep the categories, relocate the blame to leaders who misuse them — is the standard way an institution protects its core teaching from the behavior of its leaders. That's not DARVO; it's boundary maintenance. Worth noticing because it means the post's sympathy for survivors coexists with a refusal to ask whether the categories themselves produced the leaders. ## 🎯 Conclusion A sincere, short, insider reframe. Geraty names the NAR, names four of its most controversial figures, affirms that the reaction against them is understandable, and then offers three lines that keep authority, power, and influence as biblical categories while re-sourcing the first two to God and redefining the third as example and persuasion. The exegesis is careful and lexically sound; the one stretch is 2 Cor 2:15 in the NLT. What the post doesn't touch is structure — covering, alignment, offices — which is where the harm he alludes to was actually administered, and he is honest that his framework "doesn't particularly address the abuses." For Courtney's NAR page it's a clean specimen of the Vineyard-stream boundary: keep the gifts, drop the apostles, don't ask about governance. For her own path, it's one insider saying the exit she and many others took is understandable but, in his view, wrong — a claim he asserts from Scripture rather than argues, and one she is free to weigh on her own terms. Thin source: 814 words, no books, no incidents, ten self-links. ## 🔄 Refactor Appendix — Church Leadership: Authority, Power, & Influence ### 📚 Literature Atoms (H3) #### [H1] The concern is NAR apostles emphasizing their own authority, power, and Seven Mountain influence > [!quote] ID:rw_01m1hvb1zmq3z3a4ddntpk6adr > "Most of my concerns related to topics of authority, power, and influence stem from my observations about some of the dangers within the Global Apostolic & Prophetic Movement / NAR world. Many of these self-proclaimed "Apostles" tend to emphasize their apostolic authority, claim to have significant Pentecostal power, and are attempting to have cultural influence via their Seven Mountain Mandate." An insider names the movement and the three words it runs on. The rest of the post re-sources those three words. Tags: `#atom/literature/h1` #### [H2] Abuse by named leaders produces "functional Cessationists," and the author calls that understandable > [!quote] ID:rw_01m1hvb1zmq3z3a4ddntpk6adr > "However, many of the abuses we have seen from Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner, Bethel Church, and throughout the Charismatic world have caused a lot of people to not only hold valid concerns but, unfortunately, also become functional Cessationists. And to be clear… this is understandable. In the same way that Benny Hinn and many of the Word of Faith theology and methodology used to make me sick, much within the NAR world leaves me frustrated, worried, and deeply concerned." The post's one paragraph on harm: names without incidents, sympathy without endorsement of the exit. The word "unfortunately" marks where he and many ex-members part ways. Tags: `#atom/literature/h2` #### [H3] The framework's admitted limit and its use as a listening heuristic > [!quote] ID:rw_01m1hvb1zmq3z3a4ddntpk6adr > "These basics don't particularly address the abuses or concerning methodology found within certain streams of Christianity… but they can help give us pause when hearing statements that certain leaders make that tend to emphasize their authority, power, and influence. The leader shouldn't be the hero of the story… God is the hero of the story. The leader shouldn't force his influence on others… as "our lives are a Christ-like fragrance" for the world to see (2 Cor. 2:15)." Scope stated by the author. The heuristic detects vocabulary ("*their* authority"), not governance. Tags: `#atom/literature/h3` ### 🧠 Permanent Candidates (H4) #### [P1] Insider critiques of the NAR re-source the categories; structural critiques come from outside This post keeps authority, power, and influence as biblical categories and moves their source (God, not the apostle) and their method (example and persuasion, not institutional capture). It never mentions covering, alignment, honor culture, or five-fold offices — the mechanisms that enforce authority in practice. If that pattern holds across Vineyard/Third Wave writers (H-A), then a map of NAR harm needs two layers — *source claims* and *governance structures* — and should expect sympathetic insiders to address only the first. *Candidate; one source, pattern to test against the NAR wiki page's other citations.* Links: [[Faith Deconstruction MOC]] · [[NAR Beginner Entrance]] · [[Spiritual Authority and Covering]] · [[Vineyard and the Third Wave]] Tags: `#atom/zettel/z1` #### [P2] "The leader shouldn't be the hero of the story" is a portable warning light The author's test — pause when a leader emphasizes *their* authority, power, and influence — needs no theology to work. It transfers to founders, maintainers, and DevRel programs: watch the pronouns. Its limit is the same everywhere: it catches vocabulary, and a leader who has learned to say "it's not about me" while running the structure passes it. *Candidate; the heuristic is the author's, the generalization is mine.* Links: [[Community Leadership Patterns]] · [[Open Source Governance]] · [[Faith Deconstruction MOC]] Tags: `#atom/zettel/z2` ### ✏️ Fleeting Queue - 1 Thess 1:7 makes a *congregation* the *typos*. Better fit for UCC polity than the leader-centered reading; worth a line in the SJUCC worship notes. `#atom/fleeting/f1` - The post uses the NLT only for 2 Cor 2:15, and that's the verse whose sense shifts most between translations. Small tell about how proof-texts get chosen. `#atom/fleeting/f1` - "Functional Cessationist" as a label for abuse survivors who stopped practicing — is it description or diagnosis? `#atom/fleeting/f1` - Seven weeks of sabbatical reading, zero titles. Ask in the comments what he read. `#atom/fleeting/f1` ### → Things 3 (max 2 actions) 1. **Add this post to the NAR wiki page** as an insider "stay-charismatic" response, with a note that it addresses source, not structure. `#action/h2` 2. **Drop the *typos* / *mimētēs* / *peithō* + 1 Thess 1:7 reading set** into the SJUCC worship-planning note ahead of the Sept 7 jam, if the leadership question comes up. `#action/h3` <!-- deep-read:sections end --> 📄 **Full text:** [[Full Document Contents/Articles/Church Leadership Authority, Power, & Influence.md|Church Leadership: Authority, Power, & Influence by Luke Geraty]] ## Highlights - Most of my concerns related to topics of authority, power, and influence stem from my observations about some of the dangers within the Global Apostolic & Prophetic Movement / NAR world. Many of these self-proclaimed “Apostles” tend to emphasize their apostolic authority, claim to have significant Pentecostal *power*, and are attempting to have cultural *influence* via their [Seven Mountain Mandate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate). ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01m1hvx7yybsdk3192td68haxx)) - Note: H1 — An insider names the NAR and the three words it runs on; the rest of the post re-sources them. #atom/literature/h1 - Tags: atom/literature/h1 - However, many of the abuses we have seen from Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner, Bethel Church, and throughout the Charismatic world have caused a lot of people to not only hold *valid* concerns but, unfortunately, also become functional [Cessationists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessationism_versus_continuationism). And to be clear… this is understandable. In the same way that Benny Hinn and many of the Word of Faith theology and methodology used to make me sick, much within the NAR world leaves me frustrated, worried, and deeply concerned. ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01m1hvxvjn8z7dyrnq64vzxs93)) - Note: H2 — Names without incidents; sympathy for the exit without endorsing it. "Unfortunately" marks where he and many ex-members part ways. #atom/literature/h2 - Tags: atom/literature/h2 - **These basics don’t particularly address the abuses or concerning methodology found within certain streams of Christianity… but they can help give us pause when hearing statements that certain leaders make that tend to emphasize** ***their*** **authority, power, and influence.** The leader shouldn’t be the hero of the story… God is the hero of the story. The leader shouldn’t *force* his influence on others… as “our lives are a Christ-like fragrance” for the world to see (2 Cor. 2:15). ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01m1hvy8wz735vx31d9s0q27mm)) - Note: H3 — Scope stated by the author: the framework doesn't address abuse, it's a listening heuristic. Detects vocabulary ("their authority"), not governance. #atom/literature/h3 - Tags: atom/literature/h3