How Did IHOPKC Get Here? Tracing the Spiritual Family Tree  🔗 **Source:** [How Did IHOPKC Get Here? Tracing the Spiritual Family Tree](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCf-_FGcFM) > [!note]+ Document Notes > tags: [kansas-city-prophets, shepherding-movement, prophetic-movement-history, church-genealogy, pentecostal-history] > author: Bob Scott > source: YouTube > reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCf-_FGcFM > date created: 2026-09-05 > > > [!info] Generated analysis — not the author's words. Sections below are machine-written > > from the captured source. Only text inside `> [!quote]` blocks is verbatim from the author. > > Do not quote or attribute any other line to the named author. > > # 🏷️ Title: How Did IHOPKC Get Here? Tracing the Spiritual Family Tree > <!-- deep-read:sections start --> ## 🧭 Table of Contents - [Summary](#-summary) - [Main Content](#-main-content) - [Notes](#-notes) - [References](#-references) - [Paraphrase](#-paraphrase) - [Newsletter](#-newsletter) - [Action Items](#-action-items) - [Hypotheses](#-hypotheses) - [Methodology](#-methodology) - [Questions](#-questions) - [Future Research](#-future-research) - [Implications](#-implications) - [Learning Styles Assessment](#-learning-styles-assessment) - [Accessibility Assessment](#-accessibility-assessment) - [DEIB Assessment](#-deib-assessment) - [Logical Validity](#-logical-validity) - [DARVO Analysis](#-darvo-analysis) - [Conclusion](#-conclusion) ## 📝 Summary - Host Todd and guest Bob Scott — former co-founder of the Kansas City Fellowship and author of a book on Mike Bickle, the Kansas City Prophets, and the International House of Prayer (IHOPKC) — trace how charismatic prophetic movements cross-pollinate rather than emerge independently. - Bob Scott recounts his own timeline: raised Catholic in Milwaukee, converted through mainline evangelicalism (no belief in spiritual gifts), then encountered the prophetic movement starting March 1983, when a man he identifies as Bob Jones arrived at his church claiming prophetic gifts. - He describes Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, and Paul Cain as arriving at his church within a few years of each other in the early-to-mid 1980s — a concentration of prophetic figures he calls "three nuclear reactors." - Scott names Ern Baxter, William Branham's former campaign manager, as a co-founder of the Shepherding Movement, which he characterizes as a hierarchical, controlling group he calls a "destructive cult" that prototyped the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). - He argues, using an extended sausage-on-spaghetti analogy, that theological and organizational influence spreads by informal relational contact ("cross-pollination") between people and groups, not by direct doctrinal adoption — pointing to newspaper evidence that Baxter visited Youth With A Mission (YWAM) bases despite YWAM never adopting Shepherding Movement doctrine. - Stakeholders: Bob Scott, as a firsthand participant turned critic; IHOPKC and its founder Mike Bickle (referenced via Scott's book title, not detailed in this transcript); the broader charismatic/prophetic movement whose lineage Scott and Todd are mapping. - Bottom line: Scott's genealogy argument is that IHOPKC did not emerge in a vacuum — it sits downstream of a documented chain (Branham → Baxter/Shepherding Movement → the prophetic figures who arrived at Scott's church in 1983) that the episode says a companion flowchart visualizes in full. ## 📖 Main Content - **Framing device**: Todd opens by referencing a flowchart he and "Charles" built showing how charismatic movements developed from and cross-pollinated with each other, explicitly warning that a single connecting line between two nodes on the chart understates the real density of influence ("50 to 100 to 1,000 different other influences"). - **Scott's personal timeline**: raised Catholic, no exposure to Protestantism; converted through mainline evangelicalism that rejected the gifts of the Holy Spirit; had "no context" when charismatic phenomena began appearing around him in the 1980s. - **The 1983 arrival**: in March 1983, a man Scott describes only by appearance ("fat little roly-poly silver-haired guy") arrived at his church claiming to see and hear things from God — some of which Scott says proved accurate and some of which he found implausible ("so Star Wars and out there"). Scott identifies this man as Bob Jones. He says John Paul Jackson and then Paul Cain arrived within a few years after, all three converging on the same church. - **The cross-pollination thesis**: Scott argues that tracing influence in charismatic/prophetic history requires "thinking like a historian" — recognizing that ideas move through personal relationships and small subcultures, not through formal doctrinal transmission. He illustrates this with an extended analogy: a sausage recipe passed person-to-person changes context (chili, then taco meat, then spaghetti) until someone several links down the chain credits the wrong food for the result — the mechanism, not the specific claim, is what he says explains disputed connections between movements. - **Ern Baxter and the Shepherding Movement**: Scott identifies Ern Baxter as William Branham's campaign manager during the Baxter-Branham revival campaigns, and says Baxter later co-founded (with four others) the Shepherding Movement — which Scott characterizes as hierarchical and "destructive," and describes as a prototype for the New Apostolic Reformation. - **YWAM connection, contested**: Scott says he has received pushback (reader mail) for linking the Shepherding Movement to Youth With A Mission, and responds that he holds newspaper articles documenting Baxter visiting YWAM bases in other countries. He is explicit that visiting does not equal doctrinal adoption — YWAM did not become a Shepherding Movement organization — but argues the documented contact is evidence of idea transmission ("cross-pollination") even without formal alignment. - **Unresolved thread at cutoff**: the transcript ends mid-thought, with Baxter's visits framed as one example of ideas "cascading down through time," without yet connecting this chain explicitly back to IHOPKC's founding — the episode's title promises that link but this excerpt stops short of stating it directly. ## 🗒️ Notes #### ⏱️ [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCf-_FGcFM&t=0) The flowchart framing - Todd introduces a visual flowchart (built with "Charles") mapping how charismatic movements cross-pollinated. - He cautions that any single line on the chart represents a compressed version of far denser real-world influence. #### ⏱️ [00:49](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCf-_FGcFM&t=49) "Who's your daddy?" — framing the genealogy question - Todd asks Bob Scott to trace IHOPKC's lineage; Scott reframes the question as fundamentally historical: events happen through relationships and proximity, not in isolation. > [!quote] > All of human history moves by people in proximity to each other. #### ⏱️ [01:43](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCf-_FGcFM&t=103) Scott's conversion background - Catholic upbringing in Milwaukee, no exposure to Pentecostalism or William Branham before the mid-1980s; converted through a mainline evangelicalism that didn't affirm spiritual gifts. #### ⏱️ [03:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCf-_FGcFM&t=205) The 1983 arrival and "three nuclear reactors" - Scott dates the arrival of a prophetic figure he identifies as Bob Jones to March 1983, followed within a few years by John Paul Jackson and Paul Cain converging on the same church. > [!quote] > It was like having three nuclear reactors all in your church at the same time. - Scott says some of Jones's claimed prophetic content proved accurate and some did not, and that reconciling the two was difficult in the moment. #### ⏱️ [05:39](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCf-_FGcFM&t=339) The sausage-on-spaghetti analogy - Scott builds an extended food analogy to argue that influence spreads relationally and mutates as it travels, so that a downstream observer may misattribute the origin of an idea or practice. #### ⏱️ [07:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCf-_FGcFM&t=440) Ern Baxter, the Shepherding Movement, and the NAR link - Scott identifies Ern Baxter as William Branham's campaign manager, then says Baxter and four co-founders started the Shepherding Movement. > [!quote] > He forms what's He and four others form the Shepherding Movement, which was sort of a hierarchical destructive cult that prototyped the New Apostolic Reformation. #### ⏱️ [07:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCf-_FGcFM&t=458) YWAM pushback and Scott's documentary claim - Scott says he has received audience pushback for linking the Shepherding Movement to Youth With A Mission, and cites newspaper articles as evidence Baxter visited YWAM bases internationally, while explicitly denying that YWAM adopted Shepherding Movement doctrine. ## 📚 References - [Some Said They Blundered: Breaking My Decades of Silence on Mike Bickle, The Kansas City Prophets, and The International House of Prayer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCf-_FGcFM) — Bob Scott's book, referenced by the episode's host as the source of his authority on this history. - William Branham — referenced repeatedly as an upstream figure in the lineage Scott traces (Baxter served as his campaign manager); not otherwise detailed in this transcript. - Youth With A Mission (YWAM) — named as a group Scott links to Baxter's travels, with an explicit disclaimer against implying doctrinal adoption. ## 🗣️ Paraphrase - Scott's core claim: you cannot understand a movement like IHOPKC by looking only at its formally stated beliefs — you have to trace the actual people who moved between churches, campaigns, and organizations, because that's the real transmission mechanism for prophetic-movement ideas. - His caution to listeners who reject a claimed connection: shared attendance or documented contact between two people or groups is evidence of influence even when the destination group never adopted the source group's formal doctrine. ## 📰 Newsletter - A former Kansas City Fellowship co-founder walks through how three well-known prophetic figures converged on one Midwest church in the early 1980s — and traces a documented line from William Branham's campaign manager to the group Bob Scott calls the prototype of the New Apostolic Reformation. - The episode leans on a "cross-pollination" model of religious-movement history: ideas travel through personal contact and get relabeled at each stop, which Scott argues explains why some connections between movements look implausible until you check the paper trail. - Worth a listen for anyone tracking IHOPKC's history or the broader NAR family tree — this excerpt sets up the genealogy but the direct IHOPKC link plays out later in the episode, past where this transcript excerpt ends. ## ✅ Action Items #### DevRel - Not applicable to this source. #### OSPO - Not applicable to this source. #### Community - Maintainers/ecosystem: none applicable — this is a religious-history discussion, not a software or open-source community context. #### WordPress - Not applicable to this source. #### The WPCC - Not applicable to this source. ### FAIR - Not applicable to this source. ## 🧪 Hypotheses - H1: Documented personal contact between leaders of two religious movements (e.g., Baxter visiting YWAM bases) correlates with measurable doctrinal or practice overlap appearing in the visited group within a defined period after contact, even absent formal affiliation. - H2: Movements founded by leaders with prior involvement in high-control or hierarchical groups (per Scott's characterization of the Shepherding Movement) are more likely to reproduce hierarchical authority structures than movements without that lineage. - H3: The concentration of multiple prophetic figures (Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, Paul Cain) at a single church within a short window accelerated that church's adoption of prophetic-ministry practices compared to churches exposed to only one such figure. ## 📊 Methodology - H1 is testable through comparative historical research: identify documented visits or contacts between movement leaders (newspaper archives, organizational records, correspondence) and code the visited organizations for subsequent doctrinal or practice change on a defined timeline. - H2 requires a comparative case study across multiple charismatic/prophetic movements, coding founding leaders' prior institutional affiliations against the resulting movement's governance structure. - H3 would need church-level records (membership, program changes, teaching content) from Scott's church before and after 1983 compared against churches that hosted only one of the three named figures, if such records exist. ## ❓ Questions - What specific practices or teachings, if any, did YWAM adopt or informally absorb following Baxter's documented visits, beyond the fact of contact itself? - How does Scott's account of the 1983 arrivals compare with other firsthand accounts from the same church during the same period? - Where in the fuller episode does Scott draw the direct causal line from the Shepherding Movement/prophetic-figures lineage to IHOPKC's specific founding and practices — this excerpt sets up the genealogy but doesn't complete it? ## 🔮 Future Research - A documented, sourced version of the flowchart Todd references (built with "Charles") would let researchers evaluate the claimed connections directly rather than relying on the verbal description in this excerpt. - Comparative work on how "cross-pollination" claims in religious-movement history are evaluated methodologically — what standard of evidence (a single documented visit vs. sustained collaboration) should count as establishing influence. ## 💡 Implications - **Practice**: for people currently in or exiting NAR-adjacent or prophetic-movement churches, having a documented lineage (rather than an informal sense that "something is off") can help make sense of doctrinal patterns that otherwise seem to appear from nowhere. - **Policy**: not directly addressed in this excerpt. - **Security**: not applicable to this source. - **Education**: Scott's sausage analogy is a reusable teaching device for explaining diffusion of influence in any social-network context, not just religious history. - **Funding models**: not addressed in this excerpt. ## 🧠 Learning Styles Assessment - Reading level estimate: Flesch-Kincaid grade approximately 6-7 for the transcript as captured — conversational spoken language, short clauses, frequent self-interruption typical of unscripted podcast speech. #### 👀 Visual learners - Present: the episode references an external flowchart visualizing the movement genealogy, though it isn't reproduced in this transcript. - Improve: embedding a static image or link to the flowchart alongside the video description would let visual learners follow the argument without relying on verbal description alone. #### 🔊 Aural learners - Present: this is native audio/video content; tone, pacing, and laughter carry meaning the transcript alone doesn't fully capture (e.g., Scott's "who's your daddy" joke framing a serious historical question). - Improve: none needed — the format already serves aural learners directly. #### 🗣️ Verbal learners - Present: the sausage-on-spaghetti analogy is a strong verbal/analogical teaching device for the cross-pollination concept. - Improve: a written glossary entry defining "cross-pollination" as Scott uses it (documented contact without doctrinal adoption) would help verbal learners who process definitions better than extended analogies. #### 🧩 Kinesthetic learners - Present: none — this is a spoken-discussion format with no interactive component. - Improve: a companion timeline exercise where listeners plot the named figures (Branham, Baxter, Jones, Jackson, Cain) against dates would give kinesthetic learners something to build. #### 🧠 Logical learners - Present: Scott's argument has an implicit causal chain (Branham → Baxter → Shepherding Movement → prophetic figures → Scott's church → by implication, IHOPKC). - Improve: an explicit diagram of that chain, with each link's evidence noted, would make the logical structure easier to audit. #### 🧑‍🤝‍🧑 Social learners - Present: Scott references reader/listener pushback on his YWAM claim, showing the discussion is already embedded in an ongoing audience conversation. - Improve: a moderated comment thread specifically inviting sourced counter-examples would extend this social dimension productively. #### 🧘‍♀️ Solitary learners - Present: the historical-detective framing (Scott describes his own decades-long process of "piecing it together") models a solitary research process listeners can emulate. - Improve: a suggested reading list (starting with Scott's own book) would support solitary follow-up research. #### 🌿 Naturalistic learners - Present: not applicable to this source. - Improve: not applicable to this source. ## 📊 Accessibility Assessment #### Screen reader semantics - Present: the source is a plain-text transcript with timestamp markers, which is a reasonable baseline for screen-reader access to spoken content. - Improve: on the published video, confirm closed captions match the transcript and that speaker changes are indicated (the transcript itself already marks speaker turns with ">>"). #### Keyboard navigation - Present: not assessable from the transcript; depends on the YouTube player. - Improve: verify the video page's keyboard shortcuts (caption toggle, chapter navigation) are documented for viewers unfamiliar with YouTube's controls. #### Contrast and readability - Present: not applicable to a transcript capture. - Improve: not applicable to this source. #### Text resizing and reflow - Present: not applicable to a transcript capture. - Improve: not applicable to this source. #### Media and captions - Present: the transcript itself functions as a caption source; timestamps are included at roughly two-second granularity. - Improve: a downloadable transcript file (not just auto-captions) would help readers who prefer text over audio, especially given the emotionally weighted subject matter. #### Forms and interactions - Present: not applicable to this source. - Improve: not applicable to this source. #### Standards reference - No specific WCAG 2.2 AA gap is identifiable from the transcript alone; a review of the live YouTube page and caption accuracy would be needed. ## 🌍 DEIB Assessment #### Cultural breadth - Present: Scott situates his account within a specific American Midwest evangelical/charismatic subculture and is explicit that his Catholic upbringing gave him no prior framework for understanding Pentecostal or prophetic practice. - Improve: the episode doesn't address how this lineage intersects with or diverges from prophetic-movement history outside the U.S.; that context would round out the "family tree" framing. #### Inclusive language - Present: language throughout is plain and conversational; no coded or exclusionary terminology appears in this excerpt. - Improve: none needed for this excerpt. #### Neurodiversity support - Present: not directly addressed. - Improve: a structured written summary alongside the conversational audio would help listeners who process sequential spoken argument less easily than text. #### Representation - Present: all named figures in this excerpt (Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, Paul Cain, Ern Baxter, William Branham) are men; Scott doesn't address women's roles in this specific lineage within the excerpt captured. - Improve: a fuller account of women's involvement or exclusion in this movement history would be a natural extension, given how central gender dynamics often are to accounts of high-control religious groups. #### Psychological safety - Present: Scott frames his own past credulity ("completely in awe," "on your heels") without self-condemnation, modeling a way to discuss past involvement in a high-control group without shame-based framing. - Improve: given the source material touches groups Scott himself characterizes as a "destructive cult," an explicit content note for listeners with their own history in similar groups would be a reasonable addition. ## ✅ Logical Validity #### Strong reasoning - Analogical reasoning, the sausage-on-spaghetti chain: Scott uses this to argue that influence attribution errors are structurally common in long transmission chains, which is a coherent mechanism for why two groups might share practices without either directly copying the other. The analogy is honest about its own limits — Scott notes the resulting attribution ("best sausage for spaghetti") "might not actually be" correct, which strengthens rather than overstates the claim. - Evidentiary claim, Baxter/YWAM: Scott specifically cites newspaper articles as his evidence for Baxter's YWAM visits, rather than asserting the connection from memory or inference alone, and he explicitly caveats that visiting is not the same as doctrinal adoption — a more careful claim than "YWAM absorbed Shepherding Movement teaching." #### Fallacies - Potential guilt-by-association risk, unaddressed in this excerpt: establishing that Baxter *visited* YWAM bases is weaker evidence for the strength of the "cross-pollination" claim than establishing that specific ideas or practices actually transferred. Scott's own framing partially guards against this (he denies YWAM "adopted" Shepherding doctrine), but the transcript doesn't specify what, if anything, YWAM did absorb, leaving the strength of that particular link underdetermined within this excerpt. #### Tone of voice - Reflective and self-aware in the personal-history sections (Scott narrates his own past confusion and slow sense-making rather than presenting himself as having always understood the movement clearly); more assertive and polemical when characterizing the Shepherding Movement as a "hierarchical destructive cult." ## 🛡️ DARVO Analysis - Not applicable to this source: this excerpt is a historical genealogy discussion between two people in agreement, with no accusation, denial, or interpersonal conflict present in the text captured. Scott's book title references "breaking silence" on Mike Bickle, but this specific transcript does not contain allegations, denials, or victim/offender framing to analyze — that content, if present, would appear elsewhere in Scott's broader body of work. ## 🎯 Conclusion - Scott's core contribution here is methodological as much as historical: a claim of "no connection" between two religious movements should be checked against documented contact, not dismissed by default, while a claim of connection still needs to specify what actually transferred, not just that contact occurred. - Readers following the IHOPKC/NAR lineage should treat this excerpt as scene-setting — the direct link from the Shepherding Movement and the 1983 arrivals to IHOPKC's founding is promised by the episode's title but not completed within this captured transcript. ## 🔄 Refactor Appendix — How Did IHOPKC Get Here? Tracing the Spiritual Family Tree ### 📚 Literature Atoms (H3) #### [H1] Baxter's Shepherding Movement prototyped the NAR > [!quote] ID:rw_01m1sjasb8z3p1011r2yprs3x0 > "the Shepherding Movement, which was sort of a hierarchical destructive cult that prototyped the New Apostolic Reformation. >> Mhm. >> I talked about them one time, and I talked about in the same podcast talked about youth with a mission and people send me the mail you can't talk about shepherding and youth with a mission these are so far disconnected but yet I have newspaper articles where Earn Baxter is going to bases of YWAM in other countries right what's happening there it's cross-pollination it doesn't" Scott's core genealogical claim, backed by newspaper evidence rather than memory alone for the disputed YWAM link. The analysis flags that documented visits are weaker evidence than documented doctrinal transfer — a guilt-by-association risk the claim doesn't fully clear on its own. Tags: `#atom/literature/h1` `#fallacy/guilt-by-association` #### [H2] Three prophets converge at once > [!quote] ID:rw_01m1sjav4mssvsxc6ay9sr9efq > "who is this guy? Where did he come from?" Like, you know what I mean? It's like one of those movies when the stranger comes into town, right? >> [laughter] >> It's like, "Who is this masked man?" right? And of course, that was Bob Jones, you know? And then a few years later, I ended up meeting John Paul Jackson, and then Paul Cain, and then three of them are all of a sudden in our church. Who can deal with that, right? It was like It was like having three nuclear reactors all in your church at the same time. Like, it's like there was" The concentration event: Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, and Paul Cain converge on Scott's church within a few years of the March 1983 arrival — the seed event he later ties to IHOPKC. Tags: `#atom/literature/h2` #### [H3] History moves through relationships, not ideas in isolation > [!quote] ID:rw_01m1sjax4t3grn5s9cd0376532 > "here, but it's it's a very valid question and I think you know as a historian that events in history just don't happen. They actually happen via relationships. Like you can actually connect the dots, right? All of human history moves by people in proximity to each other. It's very rare that that two things happen that you know, that are disconnected and" Scott's stated method for the whole episode: trace documented personal contact, not assumed doctrinal descent. Tags: `#atom/literature/h3` ### 🧠 Permanent Candidates (H4) #### [P1] Contact claims need a transfer, not just proximity A "no connection" claim between two movements shouldn't be accepted by default, but a "connection" claim built only on documented contact — a visit, a shared building, a shared associate — is also incomplete until it specifies what actually transferred: a practice, a doctrine, funding. Proximity is necessary evidence but not sufficient; without a named transfer, the claim slides into guilt by association. This generalizes past church history to any genealogy-of-ideas argument. *Candidate; one clear case here (Baxter/YWAM), needs a second domain to confirm it isn't specific to religious history.* Links: [[New Apostolic Reformation]] · [[Tracing Movement Genealogies]] · [[Guilt by Association vs Documented Transfer]] Tags: `#atom/zettel/z1` #### [P2] A concentration event is a movement's seed, not its cause The "three nuclear reactors" convergence names a moment when several independent lines meet in one place — a category distinct from a founding cause. A movement can have a documented seed event without that event explaining why the movement took the theological shape it did; when did it start and why did it turn out this way call for separate evidence. *Candidate; drawn from a single narrator's retrospective account, not yet cross-checked against a second person who was in the room.* Links: [[Kansas City Prophets]] · [[IHOPKC Origins]] Tags: `#atom/zettel/z2` ### ✏️ Fleeting Queue - Scott's book is referenced as "breaking silence" on Mike Bickle, but this excerpt stops before reaching IHOPKC directly — the episode's title promises a link the captured transcript doesn't complete. Flag when the full episode or book closes the gap. `#atom/fleeting/f1` - Scott's Catholic upbringing giving him "no prior framework" for Pentecostal practice is a recurring credibility move across his episodes (the outsider who had to learn it) — worth tracking as a pattern. `#atom/fleeting/f1` ### → Things 3 (max 2 actions) - [ ] Source Scott's book chapter on the Baxter/YWAM newspaper articles directly, to check whether "cross-pollination" is supported beyond the visit itself (P1). `#action/h1` - [ ] Track down where in Scott's broader catalog the IHOPKC/Bickle link promised by this episode's title is actually completed, and process that document next. `#action/h2` <!-- deep-read:sections end --> 📄 **Full text:** [[Full Document Contents/Articles/How Did IHOPKC Get Here Tracing the Spiritual Family Tree.md|How Did IHOPKC Get Here? Tracing the Spiritual Family Tree by Bob Scott]] ## Highlights - here, but it's it's a very valid question and I think you know as a historian that events in history just don't happen. They actually happen via relationships. Like you can actually connect the dots, right? All of human history moves by people in proximity to each other. It's very rare that that two things happen that you know, that are disconnected and ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01m1sjax4t3grn5s9cd0376532)) - Note: H3 -- Scott's methodological premise for the whole episode: movement history should be traced through documented personal relationships, not treated as though ideas appear independently. #atom/literature/h3 - Tags: atom/literature/h3 - who is this guy? Where did he come from?" Like, you know what I mean? It's like one of those movies when the stranger comes into town, right? >> [laughter] >> It's like, "Who is this masked man?" right? And of course, that was Bob Jones, you know? And then a few years later, I ended up meeting John Paul Jackson, and then Paul Cain, and then three of them are all of a sudden in our church. Who can deal with that, right? It was like It was like having three nuclear reactors all in your church at the same time. Like, it's like there was ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01m1sjav4mssvsxc6ay9sr9efq)) - Note: H2 -- The concentration event: Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, and Paul Cain converge on Scott's church within a few years of the March 1983 arrival, which he treats as the seed event for the prophetic movement he later connects to IHOPKC. #atom/literature/h2 - Tags: atom/literature/h2 - the Shepherding Movement, which was sort of a hierarchical destructive cult that prototyped the New Apostolic Reformation. >> Mhm. >> I talked about them one time, and I talked about in the same podcast talked about youth with a mission and people send me the mail you can't talk about shepherding and youth with a mission these are so far disconnected but yet I have newspaper articles where Earn Baxter is going to bases of YWAM in other countries right what's happening there it's cross-pollination it doesn't ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01m1sjasb8z3p1011r2yprs3x0)) - Note: H1 -- Scott's core genealogical claim: Ern Baxter's Shepherding Movement, which he calls a hierarchical destructive cult, prototyped the New Apostolic Reformation, and he backs the disputed YWAM link with newspaper evidence rather than memory alone. #atom/literature/h1 - Tags: atom/literature/h1