PHP Alive and Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova  🔗 **Source:** [PHP Alive and Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > [!note]+ Document Notes > tags: [PHP, Laravel, Diversity] > author: [MISSING] > source: [MISSING] > reference: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE] > date created: > > # 🏷️ Title: PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova > <!-- deep-read:sections start --> ## 🧰 Action Inbox - [H5] Share Larabelles “anyone not identifying as a man” stance — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=1010 #share - [H6] Pitch the Larabelles speaker directory to WordPress organizers — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=1653 #xref - [H7] Co-fund two Larabelles travel grants per quarter — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2041 #articleseed - [H8] Publish “Modern PHP 8.x wins” one-pager for execs — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2942 #articleseed - [H9] Prototype “Laravel on mobile” DX demo for meetups — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=3089 #articleseed - [H2] Coordinate The WPOCC outreach at PHP[tek] Chicago — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=180 #share - [H10] Invite Larabelles podcast to cross-guest with WP community — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2548 #share - [H4] Draft inclusive meetup host checklist — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=420 #addendum - [H1] Promote the episode in DevRel channels — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=20 #xref ## 🧭 Table of Contents - [📝 Summary](#-summary) - [📖 Main Content](#-main-content) - [🗒️ Notes](#️-notes) - [📚 References](#-references) - [🗣️ Paraphrase](#️-paraphrase) - [📰 Newsletter](#-newsletter) - [✅ Action Items](#-action-items) - [🧪 Hypotheses](#-hypotheses) - [📊 Methodology](#-methodology) - [❓ Questions](#-questions) - [🔮 Future Research](#-future-research) - [💡 Implications](#-implications) - [🧠 Learning Styles Assessment](#-learning-styles-assessment) - [📊 Accessibility Assessment](#-accessibility-assessment) - [🌍 DEIB Assessment](#-deib-assessment) - [✅ Logical Validity](#-logical-validity) - [🛡️ DARVO Analysis](#-darvo-analysis) - [🎯 Conclusion](#-conclusion) ### 🔗 References - PHP Alive And Kicking 8 – Zuzana Kuchnova (YouTube). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE - Honeybadger.io sponsor mention. https://www.honeybadger.io - Note: Larabelles site link was not provided in-source. I continue with available info. ## 📝 Summary - The episode features Zuzana Kuchnova and Larabelles. The hosts frame goals. [Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=20) - The talk centers on inclusion in Laravel and PHP today. Evidence appears throughout. - Stakeholders include Larabelles, PHP Architect, maintainers, and conference organizers. - Risks include tokenism, discoverability gaps, and survey bias in demographics. - Bottom line: support networks change access, careers, and leadership pipelines. [H5][H6][H7][H9] ## 📖 Main Content - The hosts outline community touchpoints and conference schedules. They invite participation. [00:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=20), [03:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=180) - Zuzana describes entering PHP later in life via an online bootcamp. She highlights WordPress meetups. [04:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=251) - She reports gender imbalance at local PHP meetups. She builds Larabelles to address isolation. [07:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=421) - Larabelles supports “anyone who doesn’t identify as a man.” The group centers inclusion. [17:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=1022) - The directory enables speaker discovery. Organizers lose the “we don’t know anyone” excuse. [27:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=1653) - Sponsorships fund conference travel and courses. Members gain networks and opportunities. [33:46](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2026) - The episode reinforces that PHP evolves yearly. PHP 8.5 is noted as November. [49:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2942) - The panel celebrates PHP on mobile via compiled binaries. Tooling possibilities expand. [51:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=3089) - A Larabelles podcast will share personal journeys, not just tech. [42:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2560) - Uncertainties include survey sampling bias and outreach fragmentation across platforms. ### 🗒️ Notes #### ⏱️ [00:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=20) Show framing and format ### [H1] Podcast introduces current PHP developments > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) by an unnamed author via an unnamed author. Published [MISSING]. Accessed . > “This podcast explores the developments in PHP and what it's like to learn earn a living in PHP today.” Context: Use to orient new listeners and link DevRel channels. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=20) #xref ID:rw_[MISSING] #### ⏱️ [03:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=180) Conference note ### [H2] PHP[tek] dates announced for Chicago 2026 > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > “in 2026 will be the 19th to the 21st of May in Chicago.” Plan outreach and CFP tracking with The WPOCC. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=180) #share ID:rw_[MISSING] #### ⏱️ [04:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=251) Entry path ### [H3] Zuzana enters PHP later via online bootcamp > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > “I went into development quite later in life.” Use in mentorship stories and career switching guides. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=251) #share #articleseed ID:rw_[MISSING] #### ⏱️ [07:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=421) Meetups reality ### [H4] Local PHP meetups show gender imbalance > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > “I don't think there was another woman, maybe one.” Apply to inclusive event hosting guidelines. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=421) #addendum ID:rw_[MISSING] #### ⏱️ [17:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=1022) Scope of Larabelles ### [H5] Larabelles welcomes anyone not identifying as a man > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > “we are basically for anyone who doesn't identify as a man.” Use exact phrasing in allyship materials. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=1022) #share ID:rw_[MISSING] #### ⏱️ [27:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=1653) Visibility tool ### [H6] Directory removes “we don’t know speakers” excuse > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > “We've got I think 84 85 people on the directory now.” Share with organizers and CFP teams. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=1653) #xref #share ID:rw_[MISSING] #### ⏱️ [33:46](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2026) Funding model ### [H7] Sponsorships send members to conferences > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > “we try to send a one or two people to conference to every major conference.” Model for equitable access programs. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2041) #articleseed ID:rw_[MISSING] #### ⏱️ [49:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2942) Language progress ### [H8] PHP 8.5 targeted for November release > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > “8.5 is November.” Note as in-episode claim; verify on php.net before reuse. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2956) #xref ID:rw_[MISSING] #### ⏱️ [51:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=3089) New surfaces ### [H9] PHP binary now builds for Android and iOS > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > “building it for Android and iOS.” Plan “Laravel on mobile” showcase and docs pointers. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=3131) #articleseed ID:rw_[MISSING] #### ⏱️ [42:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2560) Story platform ### [H10] Larabelles will launch a stories podcast > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > “we started or we are about to start is our podcast.” Cross-promote with WordPress community shows. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2560) #share ID:rw_[MISSING] ## 📚 References - PHP Alive And Kicking 8 – Zuzana Kuchnova (YouTube). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE - Honeybadger.io sponsor mention. https://www.honeybadger.io ## 🗣️ Paraphrase - The episode spotlights Larabelles, inclusion efforts, and conference pathways. - The panel affirms modern PHP progress and highlights mobile reach. ## 📰 Newsletter - PHP stays lively and pragmatic this week. Catch Zuzana on PHP Alive And Kicking for inclusion wins and practical momentum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE - Sponsors matter. Honeybadger’s support story shows values in action. https://www.honeybadger.io - Bring this energy to WordPress events. Use directories to find diverse speakers. - The WPOCC can partner on travel grants and mentorships to expand access. ## ✅ Action Items #### DevRel - Publish a “Laravel on mobile” demo repo and walkthrough. - Add timestamped show notes and links for this episode. - Propose a talk: “Support networks change contributor journeys.” - Instrument a referral form for mentorship matching. - Survey meetup organizers on speaker discovery pain points. #### OSPO - Draft an upstream funding rubric with equity criteria. - Add a travel-grant policy template and review cadence. - Clarify contribution licensing and CLA/DCO guidance. - Establish a quarterly SBOM review for PHP services. - Schedule drop-in office hours for OSS compliance. #### Community - Run a directory-to-CFP matchmaking pilot with organizers. - Host a “first-issue” triage sprint with pairing rotations. - Publish transparent microgrant reports with outcomes. #### WordPress - Core: document speaker directory intake for contributor days. - Core Performance: track PHP 8.x adoption and perf budgets. - Core AI: set responsible-usage guardrails and evaluation sets. - **Core Program Team:** align outreach to conferences and meetups. - Playground: prototype a mobile-PHP tutorial module. - Community: add meetup kits for inclusive moderation. - Training: write a “career switcher to PHP” path. - Marketing: highlight modern PHP capabilities with examples. - Support: add FAQ entries on mobile PHP and tooling. - Accessibility: include captioning standards for streamed sessions. - Documentation: link external directories for speakers. #### The WPOCC - Programs: co-sponsor at least two travel grants per release cycle. - Projects: run governance clinics with concrete templates. - Funding experiments: test matched grants with impact milestones. ### FAIR - Technical independence: publish signature and provenance checks. - Policies and covenants: document anti-capture clauses for grants. - Productized governance artifacts: ship reusable charters and scorecards. ## 🧪 Hypotheses - Travel grants increase first-time speaker participation at PHP events. - Directory links reduce all-male lineups at regional meetups. - Mentored newcomers convert to active contributors within six months. - Mobile PHP demos increase Laravel adoption in cross-platform teams. ### 📊 Methodology - Run difference-in-differences on travel-grant cohorts versus controls. - Track lineup composition before and after directory outreach. - Measure contributor activity in Git repos for mentored cohorts. - A/B test mobile demo sessions against standard web-only sessions. ### ❓ Questions - Which channels reach off-platform developers effectively today? - What metrics best show equitable access improvements? - How can sponsors commit to multi-year inclusion funding? ### 🔮 Future Research - Compare inclusion programs across ecosystems for transferable patterns. - Evaluate long-term career outcomes for grant recipients. - Study organizer workflows for speaker discovery friction. ### 💡 Implications - Communities can operationalize inclusion with directories and grants. - Sponsors can fund access, not just swag or booths. - Tooling on mobile broadens PHP teaching and prototyping surfaces. ### 🧠 Learning Styles Assessment - Reading level estimate: Flesch Reading Ease ≈ 60–70 (conversational). #### 👀 Visual learners - Present: on-screen links and site demos. - Improve: flow diagrams for grants and directories. #### 🔊 Aural learners - Present: podcast format and narration. - Improve: 3-minute audio summary with key timestamps. #### 🗣️ Verbal learners - Present: definitions of roles and programs. - Improve: side-by-side term comparisons and glossaries. #### 🧩 Kinesthetic learners - Present: actionable steps for joining Discord or directories. - Improve: hands-on checklist for CFP submissions. #### 🧠 Logical learners - Present: clear cause-effect between support and outcomes. - Improve: KPIs, event RACI, and decision trees. #### 🧑‍🤝‍🧑 Social learners - Present: mentorship and networking emphasis. - Improve: cohort guides and moderated Q&A. #### 🧘‍♀️ Solitary learners - Present: newsletter and asynchronous resources. - Improve: self-paced worksheets and reflection prompts. #### 🌿 Naturalistic learners - Present: ecosystem framing. - Improve: lifecycle thinking on programs and funding. ### 📊 Accessibility Assessment #### Screen reader semantics - Present: headings and landmarks. - Improve: consistent alt text and language attributes. #### Keyboard navigation - Present: navigable timestamps. - Improve: explicit skip links and focus order checks. #### Contrast and readability - Present: legible transcript text. - Improve: verify 4.5:1 contrast for all overlays. #### Text resizing and reflow - Present: responsive YouTube layout. - Improve: support reduced motion preferences. #### Media and captions - Present: captions and transcript. - Improve: downloadable transcript and audio description. #### Forms and interactions - Present: simple newsletter signups. - Improve: inline validation and accessible toasts. #### Standards reference - Map gaps to WCAG 2.2 AA criteria. ### 🌍 DEIB Assessment #### Cultural breadth - Present: global attendance examples. - Improve: multilingual resources and region-specific cases. #### Inclusive language - Present: clear definition of Larabelles scope. - Improve: plain-language summaries for newcomers. #### Neurodiversity support - Present: structured segments and timestamps. - Improve: predictable patterns and icon+text labels. #### Representation - Present: non-male leadership stories. - Improve: balanced speaker quoting across roles. #### Psychological safety - Present: supportive framing and allyship. - Improve: published moderation and escalation paths. ### ✅ Logical Validity #### Strong reasoning - Causal: Directories expand reachable speakers ([H6]). Evidence: organizer excuses decrease. - Inductive: Grants create access pathways ([H7]). Anecdotes support career impacts. - Analogical: PHP mobile parallels desktop bundling ([H9]). The analogy clarifies. #### Fallacies - Potential hasty generalization: “We are growing” without longitudinal data. Fix: cite multi-year metrics. - Survivorship bias: Highlighting a single success story. Fix: report cohort outcomes. #### Tone of voice - Warm, candid, and pragmatic. Personal stories humanize technical communities. ### 🛡️ DARVO Analysis - Deny: None evident. - Attack: None observed. - Reverse victim/offender: None present. - The episode promotes empathy and allyship. ## 🎯 Conclusion - Inclusion structures convert intention into opportunity. Larabelles shows practical levers. - Next steps: share directories, fund travel, mentor newcomers, and document outcomes. ## 🏷️ Tag Coverage #articleseed: 3 • #xref: 3 • #share: 3 • #bmf: 0 • #addendum: 1 ## 🧱 Refactor Appendix (append after 🎯 Conclusion) ### 📚 Literature Split Pad - Purpose: Stage Konik CEE units that become per-source Literature notes. - Split level: **H3**. - Include verbatim quotes under 25 words and a [view highlight] link. ### [H1] Podcast introduces current PHP developments > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) by an unnamed author via an unnamed author. Published [MISSING]. Accessed . > “This podcast explores the developments in PHP and what it's like to learn earn a living in PHP today.” Two lines: onboarding cue for DevRel and community share. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=20) #xref #articleseed ID:rw_[MISSING] ### [H2] PHP[tek] dates announced for Chicago 2026 > [!quote] [PHP Alive And Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE) > “in 2026 will be the 19th to the 21st of May in Chicago.” Plan CFP support and The WPOCC presence. [view highlight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=180) #xref ID:rw_[MISSING] --- ### 🔖 Atomic Split Pad (Zettel Candidates) - Purpose: Promote reusable claims into Atomic notes. - Split level: **H4**. - Each item: one idea, present tense, specific, testable. #### [Z1] Directories reduce organizer friction - Use speaker directories to increase lineup diversity. - Links: [[H6]] [[Inclusive-Events]] #### [Z2] Grants increase first-time speakers - Travel grants correlate with new speaker participation. - Links: [[H7]] [[Equity-Programs]] #### [Z3] Mobile PHP expands teaching surfaces - Mobile binaries enable novel DX demos and labs. - Links: [[H9]] [[Playground]] --- ### ✏️ Fleeting Queue (Extract by Selection) - Purpose: Capture quick actions or sparks for Fleeting notes. - Extraction: **Select one line** → “Refactor: Extract selection to new note (content only).” - Keep each line short and self-contained. - [F1] Draft inclusive meetup host checklist — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=420 #fleeting #inbox - [F2] Build Laravel mobile demo app — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=3089 #fleeting #inbox - [F3] Publish travel-grant impact metrics — context/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NFEs_xMpE&t=2026 #fleeting #inbox --- <!-- deep-read:sections end --> [[3. Resources/Readwise/Full Document Contents/Articles/PHP Alive and Kicking 8 - Zuzana Kuchnova|Full Document Contents]] ## Highlights - anyway. And when I was learning from home, I had I was just happy like I said in my little bubble. And it wasn't until I went to these local meetups when I realized that it was mainly men. And if there were in the WordPress meet up because WordPress has got a massive community and it's not just developers, you've got a lot of SEO people and marketing, design. So in WordPress meetup, there were some women there, but there were not developers. It was all about design, marketing, SEO. And when I went to a PHP meetup, local one, I don't ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01k8benyw2q4y6r8zkvtbw69qx)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - when I went to these meetups, I was like, where are all these people? Because to me, it was the perfect thing to do. So where are where are the women? Um, and WordPress, it was better because as I said, WordPress has got a massive community of all sorts of skills and you know, design, SEO, everything. But when I started learning Laravel and I didn't go to Laravel meetups so my uh impressions were based based only on my Twitter interactions. So back then I was mainly on Twitter. I was reading what ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01k8benywv8v4bb6m8rfrtvjfn)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - and I wrote this tweet looking for a community for women in Laravel and somebody replied saying they don't think there is one. why don't I create one? And I was thinking me like I only I was only I was still very new in my journey. I was maybe two years into learning development. I did have a job at that point but uh like I said I didn't know anyone. I didn't you know I was really new to this and I was like who who am I to create a community? Like I'm nobody. ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01k8benyy9y2ksdd1mdz4gm4fv)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - making community for women?" And they were like, "Do it. Just do it. No questions asked. Just do it." And it was it happened so quickly afterwards because I needed to I needed this push and I didn't want to let it just you know fade away. So I quickly create a onepage website. I bought a domain. Also the initial tweet when I asked if there is a community for Laravel ladies in Laravel or women in Laravel that person who said there isn't one they said why don't you create one and call it Laravel's. So the name isn't even my idea. It's somebody on Twitter ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01k8benyzdwr7n25z4fpnr12yd)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - don't I actually think there's quite a lot of women developers or like developers that are don't identify as a man but how Do you reach them? Not everyone is on Twitter. Especially now it's Twitter, it's blue sky, it's master, it's we are so fragmented. Some people are on LinkedIn, some on YouTube there. I don't feel like there's a single way to reach everyone. And if we and maybe that's why even the the Laravel survey, the state of Laravel or any survey really is only limited to people that happen to know about it in ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01k8benz3wyfyna88j5n4gq7dv)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - was I going to say next? Yes. Uh Discord. So give us the link. We'll put it in. I was at uh Laravel Live uh UK >> Mhm. last year and was very impressed with how you filled the stage for your photo when you got everyone up on set. It was loads and loads of people and there are some big big names in the PHP and uh um Laravel world that are that are all part of all part of this. So it's it's great to see that. I know and I think the PHP we do need to because so ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01k8benzb749xxjgcfy190h066)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - outside the the big click, but that's one of the things that is starting to change that those barriers are being broken down over and over through different ways, not just through Larabels, but other things are beginning to break those boundaries of actually it doesn't matter who you are. >> Come and join us. come and come and join us. The the water's nice is the old the old adage. And >> yeah, >> it's absolutely true. This this community on the whole does support ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01k8benzmm57mwp8g6bv8mkkdz)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - they are and the fact that they're contributing to a massive community. And >> it's it's amazing to see this happening and it's almost like why hasn't this happened before? What stopped us getting to here before? And >> it's interesting. Yeah, >> I don't know the answer to that. It >> Well, one of the one of the criticism I got at the beginning was people are telling me why do I have to create a community for women? Why am I breaking up a perfectly fine laral community that ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01k8benzy9d3jrjt8v5wqepeqs)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - respect it and appreciate it and they really applaud you for it. And I think that's how you can see that that this community laral community it's it's a really good one because we are overall like we really want everyone to succeed. We want us all to be good. >> Yeah. And it shines through with everything I've ever seen published through Laravel and varying people who call out to it on on the stage. It's ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01k8bep06wrymh5mfzcw7a4c3h)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted - things better in a new way we haven't kind of settled down into our old ways and just doing our daily job until we retire. I I don't I'm sure there are people like that. But overall, I think the PHP and LA community, they just >> keep trying to innovate, make things better. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And you're hearing that >> you're hearing that over and over from the top, aren't you? You're hearing Laravel, we must ship. You're hearing Aaron saying things like, you can just do things. And you're hearing Simon saying, we did. and you ([View Highlight](https://read.readwise.io/read/01k8bep0q66c9krfwsk2g7a5kh)) - Tags: 👻 ai highlighted