CHAOSS Accessibility/Disability Inclusion WG, April 20, 2026  🔗 **Source:** [CHAOSS Accessibility/Disability Inclusion WG, April 20, 2026](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Thzd4Xmx4) It doesn't work that way. >> Okay. >> So, I was able to figure it out. Yeah. >> Okay. >> We're back. >> That's why. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, if that always doesn't work, then we always just submit talks and maybe also submit like sprints and we hope that they get accepted. But I think we've just missed the window for PON Africa cuz Pon Africa proposals just closed last this Monday. I think last on Sunday. So we might not be able to >> to do to to do maybe submit a talk or anything unless maybe now Chaos Africa decides to sponsor the event then we can be able to maybe now come in and support. But I think those are the ways I think I can get ideas cuz I think one of the things is we do not want to like um we do not want to uh talk about what we do really but we want to make impact. So it it don't make sense to get a lightning talk. where I just go and talk about what I do. I actually want people to learn what I do. So if I get a workshop to teach people accessibility that makes more sense compared to say hey join the community you know do and most of them rarely even end up joining. >> So I feel like that is always more impactful >> and you can even mention something like oh I trained a couple of number of people in this and this and this that makes no sense. So that's my thinking around it. So, it's either we do a workshop or we partner with them as accessibility partners. I think that's something they'll be open if you just send an email to the organizers. Good thing I'm part of the organizing team for PCON Africa this year. >> So, >> Oh, great. >> We can send an email to be like accessibility partners like we can badge the event, we can do what and then once we do that >> so I think we have different ideas. So, let me just start writing them. >> All right. >> All right. Um so which country will are you um having a blast? >> It's happening in Uganda this year. >> Uganda. Okay. Um >> so you know at the end of the day the end goal of having chaos accessibility team is to ensure that opensource in chaos and open source global is accessible to people with disabilities in terms of them also contributing right building products and all of that. So we should also bear in mind that while we collaborate with these people we want to put that end game in mind. >> So while we collaborating are we trying to meet their community for people with disabilities? Are we trying to um tell them that they also can contribute to open thoughts in chaos and open source in general? um we're trying to tell them how they can contribute to open source as it concerns accessibility and most importantly we are creating awareness for people with disabilities in open source. So we're also talking to people who do not have disabilities who have either open source communities or are building open source software or product >> to include disability accessibility and in general people with disability why they're trying to either build a community or build a software right so in this case how do we approach the community in Uganda do we meet with people with disabilities in Uganda Are they new to tech? Are we trying to like do a workshop where we're introducing people with disabilities in Uganda to tech and to open source in general? Let's take Chaos Con for instance. Chaos Con Africa that we did where there was like a workshop specifically for people with disabilities where um few people with one person with disability came and spoke about using open source software and um being part of the open source community and how it benefits her and how it has been useful to her and the community in general. So is that what we want to do in Pyon? I think it would be a great idea aside having a personal talk where we come and talk about accessibility and what we do in open source uh what we do in tech as it concerns accessibility and people with disabilities. We can also do one where we have the community themselves, people with disability come and speak about how or what they've been doing in tech and how they can be part of the open source space either building the open source community or building open source software because that's like the end goal. The end goal is we want people with disabilities to be building software technology. We want them to be part of the open source community, right? So I mean since you're part of the organizers we can talk about that like a panel session or a conversation where it helps us to not only reach out to um people with disabilities in open source but the people with disabilities community in Uganda I don't know if that has ever been touched for people with disabilities who want to get into tech right M >> because the access now that we are global now that chaos accessibility inclusion team is no longer just Africa or >> making it look like it's just Nigeria or just Kenya we want more African people more African community to be part of the group right we go from Africa we spread so if this can be an opportunity for us to reach out to to people with disabilities in Uganda >> the community. We form like a community. It doesn't for me personally I'm always about impact like it doesn't have to you don't have to have a crowd. If you can reach out to two three people who are genuinely interested in tech and genuinely interested in being part of open source genuinely interested in building something in open source that works. If that workshop or the panel session is going to achieve that that is amazing that's impact right. So if we can actually do that for Python I think that would be great. So I've been talking for a long time. Please, anybody has any other idea? I know Winfred blessing I don't know who else is in the meeting because I can't see the participants but >> so yeah I agree with bringing um people with disabilities to come out so it doesn't look like like you mentioned that we are not really bringing they will not be able I they'll be able to relate more when they see person that is actually disabled. Sorry for the word like person with disability. >> It's not a slow you can say disabled. Disabled is fine. You can say disabled people. I mean notable. I think they'll be able to relate more compared to people who are not having disability speaking. they they might be able to say oh yeah this person is actually disability and they they they might even tend to want to speak to such person more to open up faster compared to someone who's lost. So I agree with that way it makes it easy. They can even be like um the spokesperson for the um community at the end of the day to say oh I have this particular community that is inclusive and join the community if based on their experience if they're able to relate more. >> So I I agree with okay that's fine that's that's okay. I don't know. Can someone else be writing the meeting notes? Cuz I feel like there's a lot I'm missing out um from that. I don't know if you always help us. Please help us with the meeting notes. It's true. Oh my god. I actually forgot to send the meeting. >> Can you share the link? >> Yeah, I was going to say that the meeting minutes for the Yeah, let me just quickly show that. Uh I was going to ask you how was um is it is it Pyon Namibia? How was Pyon Namibia? >> Oh, Pon Namibia was lovely. Definitely going next year. I love how organized they are. They already have a website for next year by the way. So if you want to go next supposed to attend but >> um >> what happened >> there wasn't honestly I would say there wasn't um clear information right >> okay >> they were not going to do like a full sponsorship and I think that was a problem >> right that was a problem >> for one then two I had personal issues I lost my dad. So at the burial and everything, I had to cancel. I had to cancel like I mean the plan was for me to like travel regardless like whether it's sponsorship or not, right? >> But that again was like a limiting factor because I was like they're not going to be sponsoring me like doing the sponsorship thing. There's no need for me to stress since I'm already under so much pressure. It's not like there's something I'm missing out or how do I put this? It's not like there's something that I'm missing out based on maybe free or complete sponsorship for the trip and I'm missing out on that and I can maybe compromise or something you get. So I just like have to let it go >> completely and I was supposed to be speaking at the event so it was very limited. >> Okay. No worries. I totally understand. I think for Pon Namibia, they're really a small conference, so they don't get that much to support, but they definitely do support. So, uh, but you do just always just email them, especially if you're a speaker. They always don't support that much, but they always willing to support in terms of accommodation or paying a little bit of your flight. Let's say if it's half the price or something. So yes, they always do offer support, but just always draw. I think for any conference, just shoot them an email. Just tell them what you're going through and they're probably going to support you. So yeah, >> maybe next maybe this year. When when is Python a baby? This year? >> Next year. It's going to be it always happens in February. So it's going to be 19th to 25th of February in 2027. So their call for speakers always comes around October, November, August, October and then by November you know if you're going uh by December >> yeah they've always always accepted their speakers by around December. So by January you always know you've started planning your visas and everything. So yeah >> I think I saw one Nigerian at the event. I don't remember their name, but I think I met one person from Nigeria at the event. >> Okay, let's see how it goes. Yeah, hopefully everything goes as planned. I was supposed to go for chaos from Europe, but my my and um Europe and first them, but my visa got denied. So, >> were they were they offering travel support? First them was offering and you know first them and um first them and and chaos Europe they were like merging sort of they were concurrent. >> Yeah. >> Chaos con Europe was on the 29 was on the 2nd of February and I think they were partnering in a way. So and I was speaking at first then I got an opportunity to speak at first then right so I was like oh great so I can just come earlier attend chaos going up then so it's kind of worked out the plan and everything but my visa was denied so I couldn't travel. Oh, sorry. I think I'm also planning to go to first next year. So, yeah, >> hopefully I do it I do it better this next because I plan to actually apply again for the SH this hopefully this time is better. >> Okay. Okay. I'm rooting for you but Winnie and Blessing I think I guess anyone who wants us to do anything in April I think it's already 20th of April. Uh, do we want to do anything in April? >> The only thing we could possibly do that would maybe beat or match the um the last minute which I don't really recommend because I don't like to rush participants if anything. Yeah. But the only thing that seems that we could do is maybe a podcast. like we don't know when. >> Yeah, but we don't know when harmony has planned for podcast of the year of the month to be, >> right? Maybe we must find out >> find out about that. Again, we don't know what topic we want to speak about because we don't want something generic. We don't want something as spoken about before. We want something new, something interesting and most importantly something that involves the community for people with disabilities and open source as they mesh together. So we don't know if 10 days is going to be enough for us to figure out what we want to do. I mean streaming is not a problem. Streaming happens in a day. But getting a speaker or representative, getting a topic and arranging the conversation if if it's something we can do in 10 days. >> Okay. Do you want to pick this up uh um Toria and see if you can reach out to to Harmony and see if anything is possible. >> Okay. I mean I could where I am actually thinking or what I am actually thinking now is how to get a speaker with disability who is going to be available to speak. So I'll just see what I can do and I'll give you feedback in the next oh the next meeting the podcast have already been done because our next >> so I think it's something we can always we can give updates during uh during uh on Slack. Okay, cool, cool, cool. I can do that. I can give updates or I can even tag harmony because he's also in our Slack um group. So, I can just ask him and then I'll tag him to give us feedback on this so everybody gets to know. >> Okay, cool. >> Okay, >> great. So, that's for May. I don't know what's happening in May. I think I'm looking forward. Okay. So, uh when do we think we can do like a physical event? Do you folks in Lagos um have like um have like the physibility of doing a physical event? >> You know, personally, I'd say it would be smart to strategize events for them to happen on like on days that are celebration days or months that are celebration month especially as channels for people with disability. Right. So um if you're going to have an event say open source event or something if you have it close to or around a period you're celebrating something for people with disability maybe world autism day or world um um um international day for people with hearing disability or something in that line. Right? And now the wonderful thing is that um Elizabeth is now one of the board of I think she's board of is it board of directors I don't know with GA a um GA global accessibility awareness community or something like that. So I think this all makes everything easy. I was actually going to reach out to her after telling her that I need to take some time off. I've not officially spoken to her. All right. I think I saw her took her post on LinkedIn. So, I want to reach out to her so that we can officially do a because she reached out to me like sometime last year. She talked about how we can actually merge the two communities together, right? I think she even introduced me to the founder of the community, right? One of the founders of the community. I think Joe, I'm supposed to even reach out to him to have something like maybe an event or something we can celebrate that would um be a collaboration between Chaos and the community, right? So now I think it is best now that she's also in the community. I think she thinks she's still going to be like reaching out to we can still like reach out to her in chaos, right? Like she's still like in chaos. So, I plan to reach out to her and ask her when if there's going to be like a major event that >> the community is going to be hosting globally that we can maybe have a a session or a chapter or something here in Nigeria and then we can now use that opportunity to have like an opensource chaos collaborative event with it if that makes sense. >> Okay, that makes sense. So I I I don't think we can put that in any month till you reach out. Right. >> Exactly. Like we don't know when exactly. So for >> you can keep that pendulum >> until we figure out the best time to Yeah. have it. >> Okay. So just a quick when when are the accessibility celebration days so that you can just mark them. Yeah. >> There are many. There are many. I'll just like reach out to somebody in my community accessibility Nigeria. I think we have a list. I'll share it with you. I'll share it later. Yeah, there are so many of them scattered through the year. >> Okay. Do you want to run a webinar sometime? I'm just thinking of ideas of what we can do. >> You mean like virtually? >> Yeah, virtually instead of like in person. >> I mean, we can do that while we still have like physical event. We can run a webinar. Yeah. So, do you think we can we can have a webinar in uh we can have a webinar in June. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So that we as we figure out um what to have and then we also think of what we want to to have in the webinar. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. Uh, I'm waiting for folks to add more. So, blessings. I think I also saw someone else in the meeting. I'm not sure of the name. >> I've not I've not heard your voice. >> Yes, Kirrion. How you doing? Um, hope you're doing well on your end. We're just trying to plan out the year. So this is a very good time if maybe you are new to the working group or maybe you want to contribute more uh feel free to share ideas on how maybe your background on how we can do make impact with uh within chaos project. So yeah please go ahead. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm just kind of sitting in on all the chaos meetings. I I'm starting a basically a an online encyclopedia and it kind of overlaps a lot with open source and showing off where open source comes from, where the code comes from. And when I was looking out, I found chaos. So I've been kind of sitting in different meetings. My project is an international 3D encyclopedia uh meant for your phone or mobile or web browser. So something easy for people to find information. And uh I really find your guys' meetings really intriguing. Uh it's bringing me closer to the community of what I'm trying to focus on because I've been one person developing for so long and I am just getting into Python. I'm just getting into open source. I come from a AAA game developer background and I have tried to go the other route and it's it's quite difficult but I've found it very um more rewarding. >> Okay. Okay. That's interesting. Looking forward to how your project pans out. So, but if you have any ideas on accessibility stuff, if you worked around you've worked around that, you have any background experience or maybe you've had something, feel free to also chime in and drop ideas. So, yeah, >> for sure. I only have uh 33% of my vision, so I'm not quite quite legally blind, but close enough to be legally blind. So, I do all my computer work with lots of uh >> uh assistance and help from uh the computer world. So, I I that's what brought me to this one. >> Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. That's interesting. Okay, that's good. Um and how has it been for you to to work around meetings and coding and all that? Um just like is it just okay or you have you have faced some barriers? It was really hard because I started a career in games and then experienced my sight uh loss. Um so for a couple years I just took time off and went away. But I have used tools and also just dealt with uh what I have as a vision and gotten more uh up to speed uh what I used to be with that. Um, now I utilize a lot of the built-in tools and I have a lot of my I've actually used AI to build my own tools now because some of them a lot of tools for people with disabilities are built with people asking people with disabilities what they want. So there's already one level of disconnect. So I'm able to build tools that work for how I want them to work. And I really want to share those tools off too. um things that don't add extra clicks that you have to click things so that you can use your voice to bring up magnifiers. Um they snap to your mouse, not have to go and find the magnifier and then drag it to where you're looking. Um there's a lot of little things that uh I've been working on that I think would help. Um but I I uh I don't know how to upload to Git yet. I've been I I come up from an old Perforce generation where we used a a different tool. Um, >> yeah, >> just getting into uploading everything on. Um, and I think it >> could help. It's hard because a lot of people with disabilities don't use the regular tools or look in the regular spots. Um, >> yeah, >> resources like in Canada where I am, the resources don't really have a lot. They don't really know what's out there. So, that's where I think um I spent a lot of years being a technical artist and I think that I can bridge the gap between disability and tech. >> Oh, that's interesting. Um I think you would actually make a very good um host at our podcast. We always host like a podcast for disability. I think your experience in building tools as someone who has um I think a little bit of disability with your vision and talking about how you've built them and how you are currently working um through that would be interesting. If maybe by any chance you're done for that and maybe Victoria can reach out. >> For sure. I'll put my email in here. >> Okay. Sure thing. Um that that's amazing. And I think you also mentioned something around building tools, using AI to build tools for people with disabilities. It's something I've been doing recently where I'm using AI to build tools to help me write. I was a technical I am a technical writer but I I first writer's blog and I've not been writing for like a couple of months now uh like um six eight months and I've I'm using AI to build like an agent that helps me brainstorm ideas and connect it to my deployment uh to where I want to deploy my articles and just do that right right off. So that's also be an interesting conversation we can have around how you're using AI to build tools that help persons with disabilities. Um, I think if you drop your email, probably we'll reach out and have a chat and see if we can even have that as one of our webinars on accessibility and see how people can build accessibility with AI. So, yeah, that's really cool. >> Thank you so much. I I would appreciate that. And AI really um as someone who used to do I used a lot of mcripting for Maya. It's a 3D program and I was just getting into Python, but it's really hard when you have even slight eyesight problems to find the missing slash, the backslash, or the period or the comma. So, AI allows you to >> even I have a tool that does a diff on code, but then it also highlights things in multiple ways so that I can see >> like errors or things that are not quite errors like red and yellow. I really really try to use visual stuff that is really exaggerated and then it's really because what you're doing is you're just trying to make it so that everyone's as fast as everyone else >> and I think that's the most important part with disabilities is you're just trying to bring everyone up to the same speed and I don't think a lot of people think about that. They overengineer things. Um, and the best the best tool still for a blind person is a stick because it's it shows that you're blind and also gives you an extension of your hand. >> Oh, okay. Okay. That's that's interesting. I think that that's pretty cool. Um, what what you get to do. So, yeah, I think Toya will reach out um um and then >> Yes. Yes. Please go ahead >> and go. Um it's great to meet you Korean. We love what you're doing and I'm definitely going to reach out. I feel like um this conversation will really make a great one for the podcast. I mean a lot of people would love to hear about what you're building and I think it would be a great opportunity to talk about it and um people would also love to use what you're building. I don't know if it's it's ready, if it's published, if it's life. I mean, people also love to >> I think it's time to publish things because it's uh even when things are broken, it's better than when you think they're finished. >> Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, as someone who who is into be the perfectionist, it can't be that perfect. You just have to work with it as you go. You have to publish what is already available, then make updates in the future. So I I I think it's going to be a great opportunity for for us to see what you're working with. So but I wanted to ask though um you finding the PS community and the meeting it was through the website. Yes. >> Was it through the website? >> It was someone named Emma. Um so I am in Canada and a friend of mine was part of the Victoria maker space and Emma was in the maker space. So, multiple people have connected me through and I've been joining the other chaos meetings for a while. It seems like there's um I was with Adrian and the augur stuff, but it seems like there's quite a bit. >> Yeah. Somea some chaos inside of chaos. So, I've appreciated seeing that though because it shows that everyone's willing to >> uh talk about the hard stuff where a lot of communities seem to just kind of fade away when that stuff happens. So >> with open source there's always the chance to split to a new branch and start a new project. So that's what I really like. >> Yeah, there's always something to do. That's the amazing thing about oppos different branches of the work. So um that's great. That's great. We also love you to be part of like maybe try to review some of our website and see if it's it's accessible enough for you because again while we are trying to build software and community that is accessible to everyone especially people with disabilities we also want to start from the from like start from home per se. Yeah. So from our websites to know if our website are accessible and all the products we have currently are accessible and know if people with disability have any barrier at the property using them. So maybe while we have a conversation or while I send an email I can send you a link to some of the website and maybe tell us what you think and what your experience with it was if that's fine. >> That sounds great. That sounds exactly where I'm trying to head towards. Um, less corporate uh, contract job work and more just uh, trying to see if I can be part of the communities and help where I can help. >> That's nice. Nice to meet you and would love to see more of you in our meetings. So, we usually have our meetings bi-weekly. So, after our meeting today, our next meeting will be in 14 days in the next. So, we'd love to see more of you in our meetings. >> Yeah. I'll be reaching out for your email as well for the podcast. >> Please do. Thank you so much. >> All right. Thank you, Karen. >> So, um, I wanted to say, you know, we we can actually we don't have to figure all the quarters out today. >> Yes. >> I mean, yeah. So since we have the second quarter and part of the first quarter, I mean I think after reaching out to Elizabeth and figuring out when the event is, we can figure out if you want to put the um inerson event in the second quarter or the third quarter since we don't have anything in the third quarter currently. And then again we find out about um other open source events that we probably want to collaborate with whether it's Oscar fest uh or any other open source events that's currently happening in Nigeria or any other place in Africa. I'd say also Europe but I think we should start off with where we have people who can um coordinate and supervising person right so maybe we can start from Africa and then when we get that information we can look for main activities for third quarter and the last water >> okay that's fine I think you're also like um I don't know um 10 six minutes to time so I didn't want to keep focus longer unless you have so I think we can focus on this and this and then I'm also also so part of the other thing I'm now also original executor for black python devs so if you're organizing something and it relates to Python uh uh it's also open source so long as it's open source it's Python um I can look I can find ways to get support you folks if it's financial support if it's swag over to you folks so that um just to support um the a round of applause. >> Yeah. So, I'm looking >> congratulations and thank you for bringing that up. >> Thank you. Thank you. You're also going back to I think the DISC committee is returning to its regular activities soon. >> I was going to ask what's going on, what's the update? The event for last year did not hold anymore. >> Yeah, I think it's cuz uh last year we didn't have budget. That's for sure. Um this year we are just getting started but sadly we say with a with a heat cuz Camila left the team and you know Camila was our point of contact. So Camila left >> now. Yeah. >> So it's been it's been quite up and down but we finally have someone who's now representing us. That's Kar. So we want to start fundraising see if we can do the next disc uh and conference. The idea was to do it at Pyon Africa this year so that we don't have to pay for everyone to get there but get folks who are already there to attend the conference but we we are not thinking it's possible because it's a very short time to fund raise um for that and also we have we always had to write a proposal and send it to the to the board for the board to approve and it's like once we have all it figured out I'll definitely share to the event probably next Yeah. >> Okay. Oh, great. No problem. No problem. That's cool. So, um, for me, I don't think there's any other thing I have to contribute now. I don't know if anybody has anything to >> I don't think I have. Mine is just to say I was able to join these meetings cuz I had like work meetings at this time, but I'm now back to So, I had switched to part-time. So my meetings are happening in the evening, but I've now switched back to full-time. So my meetings happening during the day. So I can now much more be more consistent with these meetings. So yeah. >> Yay. Another round of applause. I'm excited to be having you back fully. So we hope to see more of you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you guys for joining. Looking forward to having you join again next two weeks. and hopefully I'll be able to join the general diversity meeting and tell people that our meetings are officially started. I don't think I shared this in the general chaos uh platform. I will be doing that and then I'll also try to attend. I was going to ask like feedback from the diversity uh meeting so far but since our time is almost up maybe we can start off from our next meeting. here where we talk about what like the general diversity issue is and how it applies to accessibility and pointers we can take and all of that all of that I know um Fred is uh used to be our point of contact I don't know if she has been attending the meeting but that's fine you've been attending the meeting yes >> uh not in recent times I've been very >> understandable >> so Yeah, cool. So, yeah, thank you everyone for joining. It was really nice having everyone and thank you Karen. It was nice meeting you. We hope to see more of you. >> Um, yeah, I'll be reaching out to you soon. And thank you, Brian, for facilitating the meeting. Thank you, Blessing, for being our secretary. Yeah, looking forward to seeing us in two weeks. Bye >> bye guys. >> Bye guys. Take care. Nice to meet you all. >> Bye. >> Thank you Brian. >> You're welcome. Let me >> see you in two weeks. I'll be reaching out to you. I'll be your DM on WhatsApp soon. How about that? >> Okay. Okay. My boss. Okay. My boss. >> Thank you, my boss. Bye. >> Bye., CHAOSS Accessibility/Disability Inclusion WG, April 20, 2026, YouTube, 01kq2nwqhyhw857tc4zb5r2k91.