Charismatics, Embrace Your History!

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Yeah, >> miracles, you know, is one vocabulary that you find in scripture to describe the work of God. And there other words, and I tell my students to avoid the language of supernatural, natural because that's actually a coinage of the modern era once sort of the scientific revolution really gathers steam. There's this sense of like, oh, we can observe all these natural laws in the world and so everything else is an intrusion upon that. So, let's call that the supernatural. >> And that's not vocabulary that's native to the New Testament. And I think it sends us far a field from how God works
in our lives in a landscape of ordinary and extraordinary ways. But for the purposes of our discussion here, I'll say yes, the miraculous, the seemingly extraordinary, right? Because even the spiritual gifts I don't think is very helpful because Gordon Fee long ago helped us all understand that the word spiritual is simply a euphemism for the Holy Spirit doing these kinds of things. And yet, you know, as I write in various books and I tell my students, the Holy Spirit is doing, you know, just whole scores of things in the world and we
want to be attentive to to the comprehensive ministry of the spirit, not just sort of these things that seem like a highlight reel of the big, the new, the extra, and the, you know, spontaneous. But to answer your question, because it's impossible to answer your question as a theologian without qualifying ourselves, I would say when I was a pastor charismatic church, we were welcome. We welcomed all of them and we understood the difference between giving the holy spirit permission and welcoming the holy spirit. Giving permission to the spirit that is being theologically open to it
is one thing but actively welcoming I think is an appropriate posture to the third person of the trinity >> in an Anglican setting. Our dasis like our our communion or network of churches Anglican churches we do have this value of scripture sacrament and spirit. Not all congregations, not all churches within our network are robust in their understanding, appreciation, and welcome of the Holy Spirit. I'm actually traveling up to Tulsa this Sunday to preach at a church on the Holy Spirit,
and I'm looking forward to that. But I would say if I were in charge, like if I had some say so, I would want to make space within our gathered worship for all of them. Now, they're all different and they all involve different kinds of I think best practices, but at the very least, I would say yes. I mean, we have prayer ministers um that are the back of the sanctuary. So, during the Lord's supper, after you receive, if you want somebody to pray for you, they'll pray for you. And I'd very much want and I think all of our
all the people who serve in that capacity would very much gladly and without qualification pray for someone's healing. So, I I think we are very much open to that. And then when you get into like word of knowledge or prophetic word, word of wisdom, speaking in tongues, those kinds of things, I think just it would require a lot of teaching and and training and then modeling what that looks like. But I would I would not say that there's anything fundamentally antithetical between Anglican liturgy and the full roster of Holy Spirit
gifts. Like for me in principle the structured and the spontaneous the form and the freedom the tradition and innovation all these things work integally together under the singular author of authorship of the holy spirit holy spirit isn't the author of one and not the other holy spirit is authoring all these things and on that sort of conviction and assumption then I would want to believe that even the most structured liturgy would make space for the holy spirit to Beat., Charismatics, Embrace Your History!, YouTube, 01kqqfvw7dhj5n4490p08enf17.