Fun Friday: Is WordPress cooked?!  ## Metadata - Author: [[WP Minute Tutorials]] - Full Title: Fun Friday: Is WordPress cooked?! - Category: #articles - Document Note: --- tags: - #WordPress - #AI - #OpenSourceCommunity Author: Matt Maderas Source: YouTube Video Transcript "Fun Friday: Is WordPress cooked?!" Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U date created: 2025-05-24 11:00 --- # Title: Fun Friday: Is WordPress cooked?! ## Table of Contents:  - 🔥 [Summary](#-summary) - 📖 [Main Content](#-main-content) - 🗒️ [Notes](#-notes) - [00:03 - Impromptu Livestream Introduction](#0003---impromptu-livestream-introduction) - [03:01 - Surge in AI-Driven WordPress Plugin Submissions](#0301---surge-in-ai-driven-wordpress-plugin-submissions) - [08:15 - WordPress Community News and Legal Updates](#0815---wordpress-community-news-and-legal-updates) - [11:22 - AI Site Builders and Freelancer Impact](#1122---ai-site-builders-and-freelancer-impact) - [15:52 - Gated Content and AI Content Control](#1552---gated-content-and-ai-content-control) - [18:04 - Skepticism on AI and WordPress Content](#1804---skepticism-on-ai-and-wordpress-content) - [21:58 - WordPress and AI Discussions in Chat](#2158---wordpress-and-ai-discussions-in-chat) - [24:56 - Delegation, Workflow, and Productivity](#2456---delegation-workflow-and-productivity) - [29:42 - Introduction to the WordPress Thriving Initiative](#2942---introduction-to-the-wordpress-thriving-initiative) - [32:14 - Reasons to Continue Using WordPress](#3214---reasons-to-continue-using-wordpress) - [36:57 - Future of Coding in an AI World](#3657---future-of-coding-in-an-ai-world) - [39:06 - Managing Expectations in WordPress Development](#3906---managing-expectations-in-wordpress-development) - [44:11 - Building a Public Content Calendar App](#4411---building-a-public-content-calendar-app) - [46:48 - Content Roadmap and Feature Clarification](#4648---content-roadmap-and-feature-clarification) - [53:25 - AI Feature Announcement Hype and Patience](#5325---ai-feature-announcement-hype-and-patience) - [56:00 - Content Flow App Demonstration and Issues](#5600---content-flow-app-demonstration-and-issues) - [63:21 - Authentication System Challenges](#6321---authentication-system-challenges) - [68:16 - User Registration and Password Input Problems](#6816---user-registration-and-password-input-problems) - 📖 [References](#-references) - 🗣️ [Paraphrase](#-paraphrase) - 📰 [Newsletter](#-newsletter) - ✅ [Action Items](#-action-items) - 🧪 [Hypotheses](#-hypotheses) - 📊 [Methodology](#-methodology) - ❓ [Questions](#-questions) - 🔮 [Future Research](#-future-research) - 💡 [Implications](#-implications) - 🧠 [Learning Styles Assessment](#-learning-styles-assessment) - 📊 [Accessibility Assessment](#-accessibility-assessment) - 🌍 [DEIB Assessment](#-deib-diversity-equity-inclusion-and-belonging-assessment) - ✅ [Logical Validity](#-logical-validity) - 🔍 [DARVO Analysis](#-darvo-analysis-prompt) - 🔍 [SEO Evaluation](#-seo-evaluation) - 🎯 [Conclusion](#-conclusion) ## 📝 Summary: This informal livestream episode covers a wide range of topics including WordPress community updates, the influx of AI-powered plugins, productivity improvements, and concerns about the future of WordPress amid rapidly evolving AI technology. The speaker shares candid thoughts on AI’s limitations and hype, legal updates around WordPress leadership, and introduces the “WordPress Thriving Initiative” aimed at fostering positive community engagement. The episode also explores live coding challenges using Replet, reflects on workflow delegation, and discusses the shifting landscape for freelancers in an AI-influenced world. ## 📖 Main Content: The video begins with a casual chat about switching from a laptop to a Mac Mini for better productivity due to less clutter. Then, the speaker dives into recent WordPress news, notably the 87% surge in plugin submissions driven by AI tools, which has pressured the plugin review team to evolve their processes. There’s a frank discussion on AI site builders, noting their current novelty but limited quality compared to expert freelancers. The speaker voices concerns about AI-generated content reliability and expresses skepticism about AI’s immediate impact on the average website owner. The livestream introduces the “WordPress Thriving Initiative,” a call to the community to highlight why they use and value WordPress despite ongoing debates or frustrations. This quarterly content-sharing initiative encourages positive narratives about WordPress’s strengths, especially in an era dominated by AI advancements. Further, the episode showcases an ambitious live coding session building a public-facing content calendar app with user registration and sharing features using the Replet platform. Despite enthusiasm, technical challenges arise, highlighting current limits of no-code/low-code tools. The tone balances optimism for AI’s potential with cautious realism about its current pitfalls and the enduring value of human-driven development and community support in WordPress. The host’s authentic, conversational style offers both information and reflective commentary on the tech landscape. ### 🗒️ Notes #### [00:03 - Impromptu Livestream Introduction](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U&t=3) - Starts with a casual greeting and explains the unplanned nature of the live stream. - Invites audience to ask questions and engage in conversation. - Shares personal update: switched to a Mac Mini for desk setup to reduce clutter and increase productivity. #### [03:01 - Surge in AI-Driven WordPress Plugin Submissions](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U&t=181) - Reports an 87% increase in WordPress plugin submissions, driven by AI tools such as chatbots, content generation, SEO, etc. - Plugin review team has evolved its process to maintain review quality and keep wait times low despite volume growth. - Recalls past backlog and current progress reducing wait times to about 7 days. #### [08:15 - WordPress Community News and Legal Updates](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U&t=495) - Mentions Matt Mullenweg's caregiver lawsuit settled before trial. - Announces WordCamp Europe Contributor Day call for co-leads and supporters. - Encourages viewers attending WordCamp Europe to connect. #### [11:22 - AI Site Builders and Freelancer Impact](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U&t=682) - Discusses how AI site builders simplify website creation but produce lower-quality sites than experts. - Explores freelancer concerns about clients potentially choosing AI tools over human experts. - Highlights tension between disruption caused by AI and opportunities for freelancers. #### [15:52 - Gated Content and AI Content Control](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U&t=952) - Notes the rise of gated content platforms (e.g., Substack) where content access is monetized. - Raises concerns about AI indexing and repurposing human-created content without permission. - Suggests a natural human pushback to protect content from AI ingestion. #### [18:04 - Skepticism on AI and WordPress Content](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U&t=1084) - Expresses doubts about the reliability of AI-generated content for WordPress-specific topics. - Points out AI sometimes fabricates URLs and content, leading to misinformation. - Reflects on the hype cycle vs. practical, everyday user experience. #### [21:58 - WordPress and AI Discussions in Chat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U&t=1318) - Interaction with chat participants discussing AI’s limitations and odd behaviors, like generating fake URLs. - Acknowledges current AI tools' imperfections despite industry hype. #### [24:56 - Delegation, Workflow, and Productivity](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U&t=1496) - Shares personal insights on the pain and necessity of doing foundational work before delegating. - Discusses managing over-analysis and learning when to trust others with tasks. - Emphasizes iterative process and expectation management. #### [29:42 - Introduction to the WordPress Thriving Initiative](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U&t=1782) - Announces new community initiative to share positive stories about WordPress. - Proposes q - Summary: Let's hang out and talk about WordPress, AI, and what this all means. - URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NXSXzth1U Heat. Hey, Heat.[Music][Music][Music][Music]What is happening, everybody? It's funFriday. Freaky Friday. I don't know. Uh,I got to set my window permissions.We're going live. This is an impromptulive. Just going to hang out and do somestuff today. Gonna talk about the world.We're going to talk about WordPress.We're going to talk aboutAI. We're gonna do all the things, goingto hang out. If you want to chat, drop aquestion in the old chat box and, uh,we can chat about things. I'm going topull up my screen as soon asI get these permissions to workhere. It's asking me to restart Brave,and I don't want to do that. All right, let's just do this onefor now. Cool. Going to hang out today.Just going to talk about some stuff. Uh,fun Friday. FunFriday. Let me, you know what? Let mestart with someproductivitystuff. Ibought a Mac. I got a Mini for my desk because I don't wantthe laptop on the desk anymore. Itcauses way too much stress. Laptopcords take the laptop and go to the otheroffice. I'm working at my home officetoday. This is not thestudio. And I tell you, it’sbeen a welcomed change toproductivity because there was somethingabout just having a messy desk. Can yourelate? Can you relate? Let me know inthe comments. Let me know where you'rewatching from, too. It has been a godsend in terms ofproductivity to get my deskcleaner. And the Mac Mini, I'm not evensharing it. I thought I had it shared upon the screen. Oh, because I'm onlysharing this tab. Let's adjust that. The Mac Mini isreally nice. I mean, I don't notice this massive difference.Well, it’s certainly not more powerfulthan my laptop. It’s just the M4, thebasic M4. Or I think I have the M3 Pro in mylaptop. And I bought it refurbished. Umbecause that’s what you do. You don’tpay full price for aMac. You buy it refurbished. Won't let me share my entire screen.That's annoying. Without restartinguh, without restarting Brave. And I can'tdo that because we're livestreaming. All right, let me pull upthisother browser. Go back to this. So,let's just talk about WordPress. Let'skick it off withWordPress. I have a few things I wantto just throw out into the world. Ifyou're a WordPressperson, pulsewp.cc. This is an app thatI built with Replet, which we'll take alook at in a little bit. Replet, itcovers all the news. You've seen meprobably talk about this in the past. So, let's just go through. Let's seewhat some of the news is that we'retracking here. Jetack, how to add schema markupin WordPress. WP beginner, how to get avirtual WhatsApp number. Patch stack, uh,WordPress hosting performance promisesand security realities. The repositorylet's jump into this article from therepository, Ray, from the repository. Let'sview theoriginal WordPress.org or plug-insubmissions surged 87% amid the rise in AI. Tools. With the plug-in submissions up87%, AI tools are playing a bigger role indevelopment. The WordPress plug-inreview team is evolving toprocess—evolving its process to keeppace without compromising plug-in reviewor quality.[Music]Less than a year after clearing theirbacklog and bringing wait times down,the WordPress plug-in review team isfacing a new challenge: volume. Plug-insubmissions have nearly doubled, drivenby the rise in AI tools and developerseager to put them to use. In a postpublished Wednesday, David Perez, ahosting or sponsored plug-in review teamcontributor, described, "You can’t even see this on the screenbecause I’m sharing just this tab."Stupid, stupid permissions. See if I can fix thisuh without having to dothese—without having toreboot. Let me pull up another browserto see if I can share directlyuh toSafari. Say hi if you’re in the chat.Let me know what you’re up to today.We’re just going to hang out and talk. We're going to talk about WordPress.We're going to talk aboutAI. We're going to talk about why we dothe things wedo. Nope.It's not going to let me doit. That's a big fail. All right, we'llgo backto doing this. We'll pull up Ray'sarticle one more time. Sharescreen. According to Perez, the spike began inSeptember 2024 and has continuedsteadily into 2025 with sharpgrowth in plugins offering features likechatbots, virtual agents, contentgeneration, e-commerce, SEO, multimediageneration, and translations. Behind thescenes, the plugin review team hasworked to keep review times low andsubmission quality high. Aspreviously reported by the repository,the plugin review team faced a massivebacklog, with 1260 plugins waiting forreview. Following thedeparture of longtime rep Mika Epsteinin July 2023, developers were told toexpect a 91-day wait time for initialreview. I do remember that. ByOctober 2024, Perez shared on X that the site was down. To zero with wait times of seven days.I wonder if we used AI to speed that up.Uh, this is interesting. Uh, youknow, I have a lot of thoughts around AI,as I’m sure, you know, many of you do aswell. On one hand, I’m like, "Oh, thisstuff is amazing." On the other hand,I’m looking at it going, "It can'teven do the simplistic things, but everywhereI read, every YouTube channelI tune into, every podcast I listen towith some of the world’s biggest venturecapitalists, they’re saying we’re alldoomed." And I’m looking at itgoing, I get it. I understand where we wantto go with this stuff, but I justdon’t see a lot of this actually solvingeven the most basicthings. We’ll test that in a little bit.Uh, when we go to do, we’ll code, we’llvibe code in a little bit. Hangout,we’ll vibecode. Let’s pull up another tab here. This is going to getold. Back topulsewp.cc, shall we? What else do wehave? Let’s go. Nextarticle. Uh, that’s the other way. So,we go to the previous article. Matt Mullengsettles caregiver lawsuit days beforeTrial. Another one by the repository. I won't read that whole one like we justdid the others, butif you've been following thehost oflawsuits that havebeen evolving around Mullenweg, thenI urge you to check out this article by Ray at therepository. We're Campu 2025contributor day call for co-lead andsupporters. The article announces anopportunity for experienced WordPressprofessionals to volunteer atcontributor day during WordCamp Europescheduled right around the corner, June5th. I'm not going; I know a bunch ofpeople who are going. If you're going,let me know in thecomments. Look at this. So, here's aninteresting thing. If I'm going throughpreviousarticles, why are we not showing the— Oh,it'sWordPress.com?Okay, what else do wehave? Cost of goods sold. How to deferoffscreen images to WordPress. The powerof kindness. Automatic. The power of kindness and thepower of automatic. Let's readthisarticle. Oh, this is justa piece about a casestudy. Gotcha. We won't read thatarticle. This is a good article written by EricCarav from the WPMinute. Let's pull this oneup. Don't be shy. If you're in theaudience, go ahead and say hi. Let meknow what you're upto. Good old Eric Caravacposes the question, "What do AI sitebuilders mean forfreelancers?" Being a freelance webdesigner often means dealing withdisruption. Sometimes it's a client whoneeds a new feature built ASAP, but itcan also come from a shakeup in thetechnology we use. Artificialintelligence has undoubtedly been adisruptive force. It has upended ourworkflows and made some of us wary of its presence. Are these appshere to help us or replace us? That's afantastic question, Eric. Perhaps AIsite builders are the mostcringe-inducing tools of them all. Claim to take the guesswork out ofwebsite creation. You don’t need to knowcode or how to pick a font pairing.Provide a few details and you have afunctioning website. Several companieshave released AI-based sitegenerators. Com is among the latest. Ourown Matt Maderas, hey, that’s me, tookit for a spin. He chatted with afriendly chatbot that wanted to knowmore about what his website needed. Within minutes, he had a website poweredby WordPress. These tools are producingtop agency level websites just yet. Maybe they’re anovelty for the time being, but they’llimprove. With that comes the worry oftheir impact on freelancers. Will ourpotential clients choose a bot over aseasoned expert? Let’s explore what AIsite builders could mean for the futureof freelancing. Do they signal the endof an era or are they just another toolfor the DIY crowd? I want to justannounce thatI just wanted to announce, sorry, aquestion coming in. I forgot I have thischat comment on stage. Uh, why the question that came through iswhy is it so hard to stick the navbarheader and WP 2025 theme, because itdoesn't have that as afeature. Uh, that's why, at least notto my knowledge. But we can take a lookat it. We'll take a look at what 2025does in a second. It's a fantasticquestion. Uh, but it's probably somethingthat you're going to have to customcode. Uh, yeah, back to these AI site builders.This article is written by Eric Arvac.I'll throw this in the chat so youcan link thatup. Yeah, I, I don't, I think here'swhere I’m optimistic for thefuture, butalso looking at this, going thesethings are still not there yet.And I think that’s just part of thecycle. And part of it is likeunderstanding how early on we are. Partof it is like your typical hype bubbleon anything new, especiallyin tech, whether it's NFTs or AI, or10 years ago, 15 years ago, it was pagebuilders in general, right? Like Elementor,and really seeing rocket ship growthback then, and everyone was just excited. For it, and it was just a hype cycle.We're living in that now, but it's justlike a thousand times more becauseallegedly, these things are supercapable. Allegedly, we can do somereally powerful things. Not allegedly, Iam. I'm building stuff that I'venever been able to build before withstraight-up JavaScript code.It's reallycool. But I still think we havethis deltaof the average user. They aren't seeing anyof this stuff. The average, like let'sjust say website owner, right? Ifespecially if they're a small business,they aren't even touching this stuff. Umthey don't even know it. Number one,they don't know what's happening.They're not paying attention to it. Umand they're certainly not learning it.And I would say that for all the samereasons why I strugglewith more intermediate tasks with AI,they're going to struggle with that aswell until I guess these AI things getbetter. I guess what I'm saying is Ithink wehave a fewyears. This stuffis what I'll call one-click worthy;it's super, supereasy and just solves the task for youwithout any concern. I stillthink that you'll have this gap of theperson who doesn't doit.Um, there's also a debate of whetherwebsiteswill exist. I saw somebody tweet the otherday, which was really interesting, thatthere's a rise of gated content,right? Whether you have to pay forit, let's say like Substack, or anyplatform where you can put a gateor payment gateway to access content. Imean, you could do this withWordPress. And I know everyone is justlike, "AI is going to take over everything and AI is going to getall your content. AI will justcome up with the content. You don't evenneed to create content anymore. And thebiggest challenge I have with that is Ithink what you seeis maybe a natural pushbackfrom humans to say, "You know what? Maybewe don't want that content to beingested by AI." Right? I mean, look at whatGoogle did with our content, and now lookwhat AI did by taking our content, whichGoogle stole from us and is now, you know,incorporating in there. I've been doinga lot of searching on ChatGPT forsearch results just to see, like, howthese things are beingindexed. Uh, yes, Adam says AI's slot phasecurrently. I 100% agree. Um, I've been looking at a lot of ChatGPT search responses. And of course, I'mno SEO expert,but like I'm looking at responsesthat ChatGPT's given back to me, andit's like literally making upURLs. Uh, like URLs, like it knows of asite. I don't want to expose like thesearches I've been searching for becausethis is top secret stuff. But when I'msearching for certain things to see howChatGPT is responding to, let's say, mycompetitors,I'm getting responses of fake URLsand I'm like, what, you know? Even whenyou click the link, it just 404s. I'm like,what's happening here? I thought this stuffwas so super smart,but you're just, like, making up URLs. You're guessing that another website hasthis slug with this search term. That'sWhat we're doing. So, I'm having thisinternal struggle of understandingwhether or not I evenbelieve the content I'm gettingback. Now, is it because it'slike an onion with different layers whenit comes down to WordPress stuff? Itdoesn't really know the market, which isstill baffling to me. Um, I think Ivented about this on my MattReport podcast, which I've been quietlybringing back and sharing withthe world, which isjust exactly that. It's a way for me tovent and get back on themicrophone. But it's like I don't evenbelieve this content that's coming outthat Chat GPT is serving up to. Andis it again? Is WordPress too deep down arabbit hole that Chat GPT hasn’t learnedor maybe any of these otherLLMs? Is Chat GPT only working for the mostbroad things like, I don’t know, how tocook a steak, or how do you make the bestcheeseburger? But even that is probablyjust fed with SEO content. I'm justreally struggling with when I tuneinto the hype. cycle of all these really smart andWealthy people who are ahead of thecurve on this stuff telling methat I haven't — I'm missing the boat if Idon't learn this stuff, but thenalso literally using this stuffday-to-day, going, "What isthis?"Uh, so anyway, that's the internalstruggle that I have. Uh, with that,I totally got off topic, but that's whatFreaky Fridays are about. Is it freaky? No, funFriday. Fun Friday. Uh, that's what it'sabout, to talk about some of thisstuff. So, check out that article. Ericwrote, by the way, Eric hosts the WPMinute. Uh, every two weeks he puts outa short-form podcast. That's whatthispost was all about.Uh, Eric puts out this post every twoweeks. So he puts outthought-provoking posts like this one. What do AI site builders mean forfreelancers? He covers a lot of thefreelance and small business stuff hereat the WP Minute. If you search for theWP Minute in your favorite podcast app,there are two WP Minute podcasts youBy Eric. I look like I have to switchthis cover art to use Eric's face rightthere. Uh, you can follow the short formone, and then there's the long form onewhere I'm interviewing folks in andaround the WordPress space. Thisparticular podcast has quite the lineupthat I've had this season. Uh, butstarting nextweek,Monday, which is a holiday for those ofus in the US. Because I’m a greatmarketer, that's when I'm going tolaunch a new podcast. It'll be hosted by Kurt Vonin andToby Crimes, two chaps who are runningWordPress sites—uh, excuse me—WordPressagencies to varying degrees. Andthey'll be doing a short series on justthat about running a WordPress agency. Ireally want to go back to helping thoseof you who are running WordPressagencies. And, uh, I enlisted these twoguys because they're doing it. Uh,they're friends of mine; they'redoing it, and I wanted the real-worldstuff to be out there. Like, Ididn't want to talk to you aboutWordPress agencies because I haven't runa WordPress agency inIn 10 years, roughly, right? And I wantedit straight from the horse's mouth. Solook forward to that whole series comingup starting on Monday. You don't have todo anything different. Just search forthe WP Minute and subscribe to bothpodcasts, WP Minute and WP Minute Plus, andyou'll get all of that. Amazing content. Let's go to the chat right here. AaronWear, a good friend of the show,puts in theMCP link to WordPress.Um, and I can't click on these, right,because it just doesn't let me do it. Uhbut thanks for sharing that one, Aaron.Yes, if you're into AI and you're intoseeing where this future isgoing, that is certainly going tohelp.Uh, Ashima asks, or no, he just says,"Chachi made up URLs in my search justrecently." Yes, this is a thing. It'sridiculous. It's ridiculous thatthis is what's happening. All right,what else can we pull up? What else canwe chat about? At least on the WordPressside. Oh, I know what I want to talkabout. First of all, let me get thisbanner toStop. Here's what I want to talkabout. Hold on. Let's pull upCanva.I got an idea. Let me load up thisvideo. How come I can't find it?Downloads. Oh, rightthere. YouAllright, hold on. All right, so over onthe YouTube channel, uh, the YouTubepodcast channel, I had a friendly debatewith friend of the show, MarkSamsky. And here's the intro clipof that. But first, let me just do mysoundbecause everything's still messed up. Asyou know, I just got this Mac Mini andwe're still not done obviously settingit up. So, let me just make sure mysoundsetting is going through these beatspro. It's going through my MacMini. I think you all can hearthis. You must do the work. You must getto a point where doing the work is sopainful that it's breaking you, and thenonly then can you hand it off tosomeone else. What do you think about that? What do you mean? What do you meanBy painful? Here's the thing, Mark. As Iwatch you from the sidelines and I watchyou flourish and flounder both. You haveto have both. I'm not perfect. Iunderstand that there are multiple ways todelegate, some better than others, andthen once you do that enough times, yourealize that, okay, I understand videoediting to a degree. Now it's like Idon't want to do this anymore. Can I getsomebody else to do it? But I thinkyou're trying to overanalyze yourself and maybe over-optimizeyourself in some areas. This is theproblem: you've given me counteradvice because there's a podcast that I put out with Nick Sariahand your advice in that wasdon't just sell, sell, sell, which was mythought process to make[Music]Money. Check out that video. I justlinked it up in the chat right there. Uh,over on the WP Minute Podcast's YouTubechannel. Yes, there's a second YouTubechannel. Uh, and it's when to delegate. You can check out that video. Mark and Ihad a candid discussion about his newthoughtson delegating the work. Of challenging him to figure out whetheror not he was ready—uh, if he was readyfor that. So, let'suh, let's go back to my idea. Pull up myCanva. Uh, just use this.Okay. So, here's this thing that I wantto do. I got to share myscreen. Remove at the stage. So, here'sthe thing that I want to do.I don't know if that'suh, why is itnot God? I—everyone must just be like,"What a terrible—what a terrible host."Um, this freaking thing. Okay, WordPressthriving. So, I've been thinking aboutthis. I obviously went to Pres. Uh, thoseof you that follow me know I went toPrescom. Prescom, amazing event.Definitely check out year two when ithappens. Uh, hosted by Raquel and teampress. One of the thingsthat I wanted to get back to the essenceof talking about the goodthings around WordPress,and you know, there are so manythings, and I'mtrying not to—I’m trying to keep this assimple as possible. This littleinitiative that I want to create. Team, I think those of us who have beenin the WordPress space kind of know whathappened with that. It's not happening,right? We had this other experimentwhich recently shut down. WordPressmedia core initiative started by Josephaand then piloted by Reyes Martinez. AfterJosepha left, Reyes left, and it floundered;now it's gone.Officially, it sort of shut down, right? That's a huge opportunity, I'd say, for youknow, Automatic to buildrelationships with media folks likemyself and others who coverWordPress in the face of AI and just likewith so much, I hate to use the word "drama,"but there's so much WordPress drama with peoplepointing fingers and some peopletrying to build adifferent solution or build a whole newcommunity or political committeearound WordPress. I thought tomyself, on my flight back from Prescott,how about we just starttalking about WordPress in apositive light? Because whether you agreeor disagree with what'shappening, at least for the next sixFor months, WordPress has been part of your career. It is part of what puts money on thetable for you. And what I want to do isstart aninitiative, the WordPress thrivinginitiative, or I might not even useWordPress; I might just call itthriving because I don’t want to getsued. So, I might just call it thriving,the thrivinginitiative. And it’s going to be verysimple.And if you’re watchingthis and you’re thinking to yourself,I would like to get involved. Thisisjust off the top of myhead. I haven’t planned this outat all.Okay. So here’s what I’mthinking.The WordPress thriving initiative, orjust the thrivinginitiativeis ameetup, an idea.I think it needs to at least be acollection, and I’ll be the person tospearhead this. The idea would be to let’sjust generally agree that if you’regoing to be part of this thing, you canstill disagree with leadership,direction, features, where an icon isplaced, how CSS is generated, but youunderstand the value ofWordPress thriving. Okay, that’s the rough surfacearea. And Ipropose a quarterly meetup, a quarterlyinitiativethat everyone sort of pitches in withtheir thriving position on WordPress. Sohere's the first example. Quarterone is whyWordPress. So if you want to be part ofthis, here’s the challenge and we’llloosely start this rightnow, but please DM me if you do this ormessage me if you do this. So why WordPress? Why WordPress? Why do you useWordPress? Why is it great for you? Whyis it great for customers? Why shouldsomebody use WordPress? Okay. And we all have 90 days, onequarter to do this. It could be a blogpost. It could be a podcast. It could bea YouTube video. It could be a tweet. ItCould be a LinkedIn post. Any piece ofcontent that youcreate that answers why WordPress, Iwant to knowabout. This is what I would call avery scaled-back initiativefor helping peopleunderstand why they should useWordPress. Why should they use WordPressfor their enterprise solution? Whyshould they use WordPress in the face ofAI? What I want to do with the thrivingeffort is to allow us to just agree thatwe need this thing to keep going andlet's highlight the positives. I willrestate it for those who like to freakout. You can still have your concerns. You can still disagree with howGutenberg is being built or how slowthings are. Now we’re down to onerelease cycle. Fine. But understand thatthe foundation that most likelyyour business is builton is paramount to the success ofWordPress. So loosely starting today, March—uh,excuse me, May23rd, in 90 days, we’ll revisit this.I’ll collecteveryone’s why WordPress posts, blogs,Podcasts, YouTube videos, and we'llshowcase this on the live stream, andI'll do a summary roundup of blog posts. But what I want to hear from those whostill rely onWordPress is theirpitch as to why they should continue touseWordPress. You know, we're going to startbuilding out some stuff in Replitin a minute just because everyone's intovibe coding and stuff like that. Andyes, that's super interesting to methese days, like being able to buildthese apps. Um, I'm still really worriedabout the sustainability of allthis stuff in the future. I want toknow how WordPress is going to survivein this AI era. But I also see aworldwhere there's something about havingthe ability to build these Replitapps, as I've done a handful ofthem. But then what? Then it's just leftto nobody maintaining it, right?Now, I have to go and maintain theseapps. I have to go and think about newfeatures. And sure, there will be agentsthat run in the background and do thisIn the future,agents will run in the backgroundand do this stuff. But I am hopefulthatWordPress, this collection of humansthat care about this piece ofsoftware, will provide something betterthan the automated agent that runs inthe background. Right? If I can turnto what will probably be likeWordPress.com in the future. If I can goto WordPress.com, like I can go toreplet.com and build my own bespokeJavaScript app, I want to know thatthere's a collection of humanbeings that think abouthow AI builds these sites and whatfeatures go into the code ofWordPress. Right? Because what does evenopen source mean in thefuture? Is it even a thing?Right? Is that idea, thatconcept of open source code stillexist? Does the concept of code stillexist? Right? Like React, JavaScript, like these areI’m now, I’m not a developer. I think everybody knowsThat. But theseconceptsof whatever coding frameworks — React,JavaScript, this is PHP, Ruby on Rails.This isall code that was developed so humanscould read it, understand it,write the code, and put it together tomake it do a thing.Butdo we get to a point with these LLMsand coding apps where it doesn’teven need that stuff anymore? Like, wouldit be more efficient if there was justsome coding language that ChatGPT usedthat was way more efficient because it’sonly a computer that needs to understandit? So, like, codebase be damned. It justhas like ones and zeros again in theback end, and you don’t even — like youcan’t human-read the code, but it’s justway more efficient for AI to build whatit is that you want. Like, is that theworld that we’re movingin? Mark Savansky, friend of theshow, asks, “Is this AI video generated?Is this video AI generated?” And he alsosays, “Uh, some people are saying cookedto a"Crisp." I don't know about that. So, that's a heavy thought, but what Iwant from the thriving initiative is whyWordPress. Give me your whyWordPress. Tweet at me, DM me.Uh, use the contact form on the WPMinute. Let's take a quick break and we willcome back.We'll come back forsome more stuff. See if I havesomething that I canplay. Other point I wanted to make aboutprocess is that if you— Nope, that's notthe one I wanted toplay. Let's playthis. You told me right now, Mark, sitdown and do whatever research you need,chat, GBT, other creators, other people,other whatever, other resources, andbuild a very good system to hand offto one of these people for whatever itwould be. I would take my experience, Iwould take other people's experience,and I could guarantee you that I couldbuild you a solid system. There's noreason to start from zero anymore.There's just none. There are zero reasons. Now, I'm not saying it's going to bePerfect by any means. I'm alsosaying that it almostsometimes sounds like it has to beperfect. It's not even like it's possible. It's not going to ever be perfect. It'sabsolutely not going to be perfect fromthe start, but it could be a goodbaseline. Where the real skill, I think,comes in is like managing expectationswith whoever you delegate. Like, hey,this is the process right now. I'llalways communicate this with you, butit's probably going to change as wecontinue to realize like, oh, we didn'treally account for that last project.Let's make sure we put that into ourprocess moving forward. You got to excuse young Mark. Hedoes swear a lot. He's got asailor's mouth, but he meanswell. Uh, let's go ahead and do somevibe coding. Let's go ahead and do somevibe coding. Go ahead, if you're in theaudience, say hi.[Music]Is that music too? Uh, is that music tooannoying? I need music, man. When I'm bymyself doing these livestreams and I don’t hear anybody, it’stough. Uh, Troy, let’s see what he says. Uh, because it’s intuitive, and ifproperly curated, it can be a welcomingexperience for content creators whileproviding all the tools developers needto do just about anything they want. Troy,I think you're talking about WordPress, and yes, absolutely. I 100%agree. Allright, let’s do something. I’m usingReplet. I found that Replet is the bestsolution forme because it has everything in-house: database,user authentication system. I think I’vetalked about this on the channelbefore, and the mobile app I will tellyou that this is the biggest threat.Um, Mark Seamansky, vibe coding usingvoice input, full experience, notyping. Gameon. Game on,Mark. Um, let’s do it. Let me share thescreen. Thanks, everybody, for being here.What? Why is it this guy’s face again?Get that out of here.I will tell you one of the biggestthreats is when I think aboutthe biggest threat to WordPress.It’s not even the code; I canYou can build anything with, let's say, Repletversus, you know,WordPress, but theRepletapp, which of course I've logged out ofright now for somereason. Let me log back in on myphone. This is theunsung sort ofthe silent killerof attention and ease of use because Ican begin to code my app, which we'll dohere in Replet in a second. Uh, and then I can walk away and on myphone, which you're not going to be ableto see in this tiny little window, theReplet app is probably one of thebest apps I've ever used in terms ofusability andproductivity. It's, it's, you would thinkthat it's going to be like this quirkyexperience. It is freaking good. Andthat's what makes me scared forWordPress because I can be at my son'sbasketballpractice, and I can just be building appsand I can go back to the apps I've builtandlike flesh out ideas and build out. You know, small little features while I'm onmy phone and like all the power ofReplet is in that app seamlessly. That'sthe thing that makes me worry the mostfor WordPress. Mark says, "Zoom in ifpossible." Ah, man. I don't know ifthat's going to be possible because I amnot using any Mac peripherals rightnow. And it makes it tough. Uh, makes it tough. I can do this, but Idon't know if that's really zooming in.It's more like making itbigger. All right. Here's how I startout a vibe code. Here's what I want todo. And your ideas are welcome. I wantto build a content calendar, a public-ffacing contentcalendar. And Mark wants me to do itwith words. Uh, voice. Okay. So, I'll usethis app, which you're not going tobe able to see because it's not going topop up, because I can only share onestupid screen at a time because I didn'trestart. But I'm going to use this appcalledWhisper Flow.WISPR FlowWhisperFlow. I want to build aReact-based app using Tailwind and Chad. CN for the UI.This is a content calendar that allowsme to share public calendarlinks to share on social media so thatmy audience cansee the roadmap of content that I havecoming. The calendar willbesimple, good-looking, and intuitive.The user will be able to filter thedifferent content types to see thedifferent content types across thecalendar. It should have a databaseand user registration so that I cancreate calendars for multipleusers. Here's the prompt. Okay.Uh, this is a content calendar that allows.We're just going to hitstart. You know what I like to do? Ilike to say, well, yeah, I like to say umit's going to ask me anyway,but ask me any additionalquestions that you need to clarify. I'mtyping, I know, before you write thecode. So, Replit usually does a pretty goodjob of promptingum, before the whole thingis created, right? So, it says, "Iunderstand you want to build a contentA calendar app with public sharingcapabilities. It's a fantastic idea forcontent creators to engage youraudience. Upcoming content road mapsbefore I create the comprehensive plan. I'd like to clarify a few key details.So, let's see. Content types. Whatspecific content types do you want tosupport?Calendar information. For each contentitem, what details should be displayed?Title, description, content, publishdate, and public calendar features. Shouldthe public calendar be read-only? Allowanyfiltering? User and sharing features.User roles. Do you need different userroles? Admin, editor, viewer. Publiclinks. Should each user be able togenerate one public link?Monthly. These details will helpme. Adam says, "You didn't say thankyou." Uh, Troy says, "Uh, or please."You are correct, gentlemen.[Music]Um, content types I want to support areblog posts, videos, podcasts, and socialmedia posts,webinars. For calendar information, justtitle, description, and content type. Is fine.For the public calendar features, allowfiltering of content types for publicviewers. I don't need any user roles atthistime. Yes, for each calendar you cancreate a publicview. All right, let's see what happens. We can see that Replica called it, uh,named this app Content RoadmapPro. App type modern web appintegrations Postgres SQL Replet off.Uh, these are two things that I've alwaysfound that Replet fails at, even though Itell it to; it doesn't always do it. Uh,react based app. Would you like to addany of these additional features? Dragand drop calendar, adding, implementcontent scheduling with notifications.Calendar export, include contentanalytics just toprove this. One of the new things thatReplet does is it sets up thisum, preview.Uh, and it's a previewthatyou can't interact with,cannot as it's buildingit, but it gives you the idea of likewhat's happening. It's funny that itI used December2024 as thestart time. I did forgetone tip that I usuallyadd: make the code asmodular aspossible. We'll see, I guess, in amoment, once these files are generated,because oftentimes I've run intoissues where it's like the codingfile is just or coding file the primaryapp file is just thousands of lineslong, and then you're forced tovibe code your way out of that,right? Reverse engineer it and startto pull out corefeatures and break it apart. So,let's just seeI'm still building out a lot ofthisstuff. I think I mentioned this before. They just initiated orallegedly, I don't know, they said thatReplet would have all of the CLAWD40 enhancements that came out yesterday.That's the other thing. Let's go to theface cam while we wait for this. Youknow, you seespeaking of the hype cycle, like weWe're talking aboutbefore. It's like whoever goes now, it'slike whoever goes last during the weekwins. Like, I think back to years agowhen Apple sort of dominated theTuesday; like Tuesday being the day thatApple would announce everything. Tuesdayat 1:00 Eastern or something likethat, or 12:00 p.m. And you have all thejournalists go out there, and it would just be a big thing; like Tuesdayyou knew it was coming. Then allbusinesses started doing stuff onTuesday, and it was just like oh, the besttime to do emails was on Tuesday. Solike everyone just followed suitwith Apple. Now it's just like youfreaking every AI company; if youannounce something on Monday, you'rescrewed byFriday to the point where now thehype cycle is going to be like the besttime to let your customers knowabout your new feature is going to belike Sunday at3:00 Eastern. Mark asks, "What's your contentcalendar look like? Yeah, let's go back, man. Like this iscreating the home page. That public calendar grid. I still can'tinteract with this because it's not doneyet. A fairlysizable amount of stuff so far. What'sgoing in the shared folder? Theschema replet off. I shouldn't have saidthe replet off because I think that'sjust going to extend thisevenlonger. I should have added the, uh, thereplet stuff later. Let's take a look atthe database. Yeah, it's still doingthat. Uh oh, there it is right there. Just inthe nick of time.So, it created the database, but it'smaking all the tables now, Iassume. [Music]The share modal and it's going to helpme create that share URL.Um, content colors. I'm assuming I'll beable to edit these content. This is thethingthat is still maybe not talked aboutenough. Is this still this stuff still takestime and which is hilarious, right?Because we're waiting a few minutes hereand we're already saying things likeThis is taking forever. Uh, this is thiscrazy expectation. Well, you know, all Ican all I can picture right now is likehuge swaths of the Amazon rainforestbeing burned because some idiot in nearBoston, Massachusetts wants to make acontent calendar app. Um, which he’s probably just going todelete and throw away. Oh, how aboutthat? I made a homepage for us. So, it’sit’s envisioning like a completeend-to-end product marketing site,too. Plan your content. Share yourvision. Create beautiful contentcalendars and share them with youraudience. Keep everyone informed aboutyour upcoming content across allplatforms. Visualize your calendar. Public sharing. Smart filtering. Viewdemo. Getstarted. All right. Built completecontent calendar with databaseintegration. Added user authenticationwithreplit. There’s no way this is going towork. I guarantee this isn’t going towork. Uh, added public calendar sharingwith custom links. Your content flow appis ready. I wonder why I called itContent flow. Oh, because it changed thename to content flow when it wascontent roadmap probefore. Sign in to create and manageyour content calendar. Add content item titles. Filter. Would you like to testthe app by signing in and adding somecontent? All right. So, my initialthought is it’s not going toworkand I won’t be able to register auser. I’m clicking sign in. Nothing’shappening. Get started for free. Oh,there itis. Uh, okay. You can only log in withyour account in the previewwindow. Well, that’s going to mess upthe stream because you’re not — I’d haveto keep sharing this window. Let’s see. Get started for free. All right, let’s just dothis. I’m signing into it, but I can’tlog in.Oh. Oh, I have to sign in withthis. Hold on. Let me do this.You’re not seeing it. I have toapologize because[Music]Um, I screwed up some stuff. Before, I'll share it in a second.It's not letting me signin. What if I'm going to ask it toshut off? See what itdoes. Uh, can I just do it right fromhere?Yeah. Can we remove the replet offfeatures? I'mtyping. Let me take it away.Can we remove the replet off feature andhave a basic sign-in form fornow? Oh boy. I just want to see thiscalendar. See if it works. I was tryingto wrap up this live stream within anhour. All right, let's see if itsuccessfully pulls out the replet offfeature. Man, it is beating upthat schema.ts. Implemented a basic username andpassword. I'll create the simpleauthenticationsystem.Always check your code and try to atleast understand what'shappening. Uh, what tables do we have? Sowe've got users,sessions, public calendar settings,and content items. This looks like a reallysimple database.Let me create a simple authenticationSystem. Let's go. Let's go. AI burnthose trees. I need a login form. It'sterrible. I understand you want tosimplify the authentication. How manytimes are you going to say that? Let mecreate a basic username and passwordsignin form. [Music]I just wanted to see if that works.[Music]How big is this appfile? Not verybig. The login page is being made.Public calendar page.Homepage. Okay, we're almostthere. Oh, what's this? It's going togive it to me this way. Oh, there itgoes. And it's gone. Just like that. Itcomes and it goes. Simple username andpassword. All right. Replace the complexauthentication system. The app now shows alogin screen. Your content flow app nowhas a much simpler authenticationsystem. Create. Would you like to createyour firstaccount and start adding to yourcalendar? I do. Sign up. See whathappens. What?It's literally not letting metype. It's literally not letting me addAnemail. Okay. A cool feature of Replet besidesthat not working is the inspect buttonfeature. Selectit. I could change that stuff, but I'mnot going to do that.The login form is not letting me entermyemail. These are the things that a MarkZamanssky would do, which is just liketalk the most line, but I'm doing itbecause he requested it. Yeah, it's going to be a lot longer thanI anticipated.Password. Here we go. We're almostthere. We almost had it.[Music]Man, how many times can it tellme it's seen the issue with my inputfield? No, still not working.Let's just see what happens if I do itwithout auh, email. Let's just see if it works.I'm unable to type an email address inthe enter your emailfield. This vibe coding stuff and woo,it is going to take over theI may be out of a job because of me. Well,Matt, make better prompts. I know, butisn't that what AI is supposed to do forme? I see the issue. The email field is onlyvisible when you're in signup mode, butthe form defaults to loginmode. Already have an account? Sign in.Need an account? Signup. There we go.So, like right now, normally I would saywe need to redirect that, but I'm notgoing to mess with that rightnow. Now, it won't let me type in thepassword. It must be six characters. It'snot even letting me type it in. Allright.The password field is not letting metypein anycharacters. Was it successful? Let'stake a look. Users. There's nousers added. So, how the heck is it juststoring it in sessions? No. Overview.Oops.Overviewusers. No rows. It never even registeredit. Pull up theconsole. The message is unauthorized. Was itunauthorized when I tried to signUp? Let's try it again. Since my name isnot in thedatabase. Create the account. Accountcreated. You can now signin. Test. One, two, three. Still notletting me type in the password. It'samazing. This stuff isamazing.Two more users. The user is noteven registering. Userisn't. All right, I'm going to give itone more shot here and then we're goingto call itbecause the user registration form isnot actually registering a user. I’m notseeing it registered in the database.And when I go to the login page, I’munable to type in any characters to thepassword. New element editor. Visually select andedit elements.For those of you stillhere, what's your favorite vibecoding app of choice? Cursor windsurfer, replet, bolt, newlovable, something else.You're absolutely right. Perfect. You'reabsolutely right. Perfect. You'reabsolutely right. Let me fix both userThere is a registration database issue with the passwordfield problem now. All right, this will be the last attemptand then I’m going to callit. Oh, we’re back to the sameproblem. Troy says cursor at the moment.Well, hopefully, you’re havingbetter luck than I am.Yeah, we’ll pick this up. We’ll use thisas the base of our next live stream,continuing on with Content Roadmap Pro. Uh, until then, thanks for hanging outtoday. Uh, thiswas not really successful on the vibecodingfront. Uh, you developers out there,you’re safe for at least one more day. Let’s just take a look at some otherstuff here. Useroff login. Where’s theuser?Yeah. None of the stuff is properlyuh, documentedeither. Your jobs are safe for anotherday, um at least for me. Anyway, we’llpick this up in a future episode. Thankseverybody for hanging out today. Don’tforget the wpminute.com. Thewpminute.com/subscribe. It’s the numberone way to stay connected to all theThings that I do. Join the newsletter if you're a WordPress freelancerprofessional. And we'll start going intothe throes of AI, of course, on thenext episode. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you in the next one., Fun Friday: Is WordPress cooked?!, WP Minute Tutorials, 01jw1hg99tszzrsw9gskk5mm8g.