IDE Bans Kids?

Right now during the recording of this, there's an insane windstorm going on. It's probably the wrath of God being so upset because what I'm about to say next should never have been said. What's the first thing you think about when I say an adult only 18 or older ID? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that Yeah, that probably is what you think about, huh? That's because you're disgusting. Ew. Gross. Now, if you didn't think about something inappropriate, you might have thought about this right here. Yes, this is an
IDE. That is a person vibe coding. That is BOBA on said screen. Now, you're probably asking yourself, what is going on inside of this editor? Well, it turns out Chad IDE, which by the way, invested by YC. YC actually backed this company. YC saw the BBA on the screen and said, "Oh my gosh, girl, have you seen the size of my Rails app?" [laughter] Oh, [gasps] just want to let you know
that I know a thing or two about Rails. Ew, gross. Yes, but chat ID apparently while you're prompting during the prompting phase, you can then go on Tinder. Okay, because you know you sure you could like review code, become an expert, actually have something meaningful in your life. Or you could look again at just BA. They're probably AI generated BABA at this point also, just FYI. You know, get catfished, son. get catfished while you're using AI. There's something kind of funny about
that. But no, I'm actually not referencing any of those things. Okay, that's not what we're talking about today. Today, we are talking about Zed. Yes, the probably kind of popular, probably well-known, hey, people seem to have some sort of vague feelings of happiness about editor Zed. Now, they recently sent off an email. Now, me personally, I use Neoim. Never received an email from Neovim. Hey, Justin, if you're listening, I'd love to have an email from you. benevolent dictator. Any day of the week you want to shoot me an email, I'll read it. Okay. Appreciate
you, bud. But they send off emails to let you know like some things have changed and it's kind of part of the requirements, I assume. And this time it was about a privacy policy change. Can we all just admit no, nobody reads privacy policy? And so part of Zed is that they want to actually make it a little bit more approachable to read privacy policy. So they kind of give you like a bullet point by bullet point breakdown of instead of giving you the legal ease, which no one can understand except for if you, you know, get paid $1,500 an hour. Instead, they give you like human readable bullet points. And one of the bullet points says, "You must
be 18 or older to use zed." You could imagine my incredul at this. Ain't no ain't no way I believe in that. There's just no way that it requires you to be 18 or older. Okay. Uh-uh. Not. Nope. It reminds me of the time that Gemini refused to show somebody who was under 18 C++ code because honestly C++ code conversion will need to refrain from showing you code examples or solutions that directly involved concept as you're under 18. Concepts are advanced features
of C++ that introduce potential risks and I want to prioritize your safety. I hate to burst your bubble but of course the internet and the Z email weren't as funny as the actual reality is. Uh, it turns out no, it you don't have to be 18 years old to use the IDE, but you do have to be 18 years or older to be able to use the IDE plus the AI features. And so they end up responding saying like, hey, you know, we're a little bit imprecise on our language in the email.
A little bit imprecise. I love that phrase. We are imprecise. No, no, no, no, no. You weren't imprecise. You were just wrong. You can just say, hey, whoopsies. We forgot a word. We forgot the the service part of the 18 or older. Okay, we we put the word zed and not the AI service part. I like how they're just like imprecise. It's ridiculous. Anyways, the reason being is that they actually wanted to have this threshold due to children's data privacy obligations under COPA, equivalent
international frameworks, and an increasing number of state and regional laws that extend protection to anyone under 18. Now, that's a lot of that's a lot of words, and honestly, you'll be a bit shocked about some of these things. Now, first off, COPA, it's everything to do with children under 13. So, honestly, what they are saying about 18 and COPA, you can just take it, put it in your hand, and just throw it out the window cuz it just doesn't have it doesn't at least seem to say the word 18 anywhere on here. It references children under 13 several several several several several
times. Maybe there's something kind of deeper in the actual legal document, but the FTC's business guidance seems to only refer to anything with 13 or under 13. But when I asked Grock, I was just like, "Yo, Grock, tell me tell me what's what's some data laws around people that are, you know, 13 to 18." It turns out quite a few states have data laws, which is kind of a weird thing. This is one of those things that I kind of dislike a lot about the internet because one state can make up a rule or one country can make up a rule and then everybody has
it. You can remember, you remember the old cookie banners, you know those things that pop up and make you literally just say, "I accept." That's it's worthless. It was a stupid thing. It literally did nothing and that came from a rule from the EU. It it has largely provided zero value. Okay. And yet everybody's internet got affected. Well, this is another one of those versions. California has a bunch of mandate over how data collection works, how privacy settings, and how all this stuff kind of works together along with a few other states. Connecticut has some
rules. Florida has a rule. New York has a very funny rule. Informed consent from a minor. Yo, dog. minors don't have informed consent. I hate to break this to you, but they're like, "Oh, yeah, but if they're like 13 or older, they can understand their data privacy and how it relates to big corporations, you know, aggregating and selling data." No, they can't. Okay. No, they can't. Not at all. All right. Hey, hiring engineers is broken right now. AI resumes, fake profiles, and senior devs who don't even use Vim. G2I fixes that. Not the Vim
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everything. Now, this is kind of funny because we all know what's going to happen, right? There's going to probably be the cool parent at the high school who allows their kid to have, you know, like some AI with their friends. you know, they don't allow them to go out and drive around with the AI or do anything like that or take AI to say somebody else's house, but you know, all the kids can come to their house and they can all consume AI before the age of 18 on Zed. And like sure, like I always wanted to get invited to that party and you know, guess I was never cool enough to be part of the cool kids
crew always got to, you know, be using AI on the weekends where me and my friends, we just didn't have that as an option. But the thing about states being able to make rules that are like affecting large portions of people and including people not even from America is actually a really bad feature of the internet. It's a really bad feature of developing apps that due to how complicated things are. Individual entities can kind of dictate how the world operates. Like right here, this is a perfect example. New California law
says that all operating systems, including Linux, need to have some form of age verification at account setup. Now, when I hear age verification, what I hear is age verification. Yes, the V word, the thing that says that not only do you put the little age in, you have to like upload your ID and say, "Hey, this is me." No, actually, this is actually me. Which seems insane, but here's the deal is that this one little law that's being put in place by Gavin over here, little Gabby boy. Guess what? Every single operating system under the
sun's going to have to implement this. And that means the entire world gets this rule. the entire world will get just a little bit more data collection for everything. Now, we know that Microsoft is probably giddy about this. They're probably like, "Oh gosh, we're going to create a new co-pilot application called Copilot age verificator. Oh, it's going to be so good. I can't wait to have co-pilot age verificator. That's going to be my favorite of all the co-pilots." But just like the cookie banners, it turns out this age verification thing is is really
stupid. It, you know, there's no verification currently going on. Okay, first off, does Linux even have accounts? No, not really. They have a user login. Second off, in this context, account means user login. The law requires you to have a box after username and password that is how old are you? And no, I'm not kidding. There's no verification required. The OS is just required to make you enter something into that box. That just means, you know, those like, hey, how old are you Steam pages? Dude, my kid knows how to get my kid is like 11 and 10. They're like, oh, okay, how old am I
to look at this game? Okay, here's dad's birthday. Bada bing, bada boom. Wow. Oh my gosh. We got hackers here getting around age verification. And the fact that one state, one state out of 50 out of one country out of 200 plus, okay, we're talking about one over 50 over 200, a very small portion of the world despite having a very large portion of the world's GDP. And apparently they're fumbling the bag on that right now. But nonetheless, that one little place can
make a rule that affects everybody. It just it is just the worst setup. Like we c how can this be? How can one person make this? Now I know I I I don't do politics. I don't talk about politics, but this is one of those situations where I lament kind of the political nature of things sometimes because I mean look at us age verification in Linux. Arch Linux is going to require you to have username, password, and age. And you and we all know what happens here. Okay, people are like, "Oh, that's
a slippery slope." That's that's a fallacy. Well, guess what? It's everything's a slippery slope, brother. We all know where this is going, right? Which is just going to be the continual intrusion into everybody's life. It's going to be entering your age today. In 10 years, it'll be uploading your ID and having your eyeballs scanned and your anus scanned to be able to have the perfect World Coin application to really verify you that to Sam Alman that you actually are who you are. or then you can finally receive your UBI from Sam
Alman's World Coin Tits. Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. Okay, that was a little Okay. Hey. Okay. Hey, I'm sorry that was a little dark. I got a little dark there. Okay. This is normally like a little bit more of a chipper channel and so my bad on getting a little intense there. Okay. I will not bring up Anusa scanning anymore. Okay. I'll keep the anuses free from this channel from here on out. Okay. The name is actually I mean I'm I'm not lying when I say stuff about the anus though. It does turn out there is a smart toilet that
can identify who's using it based on the shape of the anus. Okay, [laughter] you know even just saying that I feel like such an idiot. I can't believe [laughter] you know. Hey, if you can't laugh your way through the apocalypse, what are you doing with your life? Th This is funny. Okay, this is really funny. A gen., IDE Bans Kids?, YouTube, 01kkxya511d9apr8ragddejtq5.