Liturgy & Spiritual Formation ![rw-book-cover](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yLzcgyxPju0/maxresdefault.jpg) 🔗 **Source:** [Liturgy & Spiritual Formation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLzcgyxPju0) Well, so you you mentioned the lurggical practices in relation to formation and and I I've seen that like I think a lot of charismatic worship leaders, for example, are beginning to explore ways to enhance or to see the the music aspect of worship services or the liturgies, you know, having a little bit more legs to it, uh, so to speak. And um you know >> and yet we have these prayers and there's these historic prayers from the church that >> that we I mean for us in the vineyard like come Holy Spirit is not something invented by Lonnie Frisbee in 1980. >> It's like it's got a little bit of historic life to it. help help us think about like you know like litany like I guess what would be the what would be your your argument for the use of litinies or the use of >> guided prayers or pre-written prayers in our personal devotional lives and then for the church like why should we consider you know the implementation of these prayers yes I mean just to concede maybe the possible question of somebody listening in whether the Holy Spirit delights in new and extemporaneous and spontaneous prayers I would say yes in Amen. Uh wholeheartedly and I have been part of churches where so many people feel very uncomfortable praying spontaneously or praying out loud in front of others. And so it's been a very important pastoral concern of mine to cultivate that confidence and certainty that the Lord wants to hear your prayers of the moment for us as a people of God in this place this time. At the same time, I would say that as much as the Holy Spirit is at work in the spontaneous, the Holy Spirit is equally at work in in the ordered or the structured. And so, we see how the Holy Spirit's work in authoring all of the Bible, all of holy scripture, gives us sort of this sort of macro picture of how the Holy Spirit delights in something. It just sounds like a very funny thing to say, but the Holy Spirit loves books and love books that were written a long time ago and that we return to over and over and over. And this book that has the exact same words today as it did yesterday as it did 500 years ago is a work that it serves our freedom in Christ. So it it doesn't restrict our freedom in Christ, but our return to these words are the way through to freedom and fullness of life. So we see scripture as a whole that the Holy Spirit al authors the Holy Spirit al also authors the entire psalter. So 150 prayers that Christians have returned to for hundreds and hundreds of years and discovered fresh insight and fresh affections and fresh uh encounters of God through these words. And of course, you know, we put new melodies to these words and that makes it feel like it's new, new to us perhaps, but the words remain the same and the words are also Holy Spirit authored. And then thirdly, we see the Lord's prayer that when the disciples asked Jesus how they should pray, he gives them a form of a prayer that we have been praying again from, you know, the moment from the time that Jesus bequeathed it to his disciples. And so we have three examples of written prayers, written words that we believe, we as charismatics, we as Pentecostals believe those are the good words that lead to the fullness of life. Those are the words that lead to the fullness of the freedom of God. And so if God is the one who delights in giving us the gift of written words and written prayers in order to know and love God fully, then to enter into that work of writing prayers or writing litinies or writing liturgies is simply entering into the work that God has already and always been Doing., Liturgy & Spiritual Formation, YouTube, 01kqqffw44b2ye2ma9pjzs0mns.