Mike Winger Catches "Prophet" Lying LIVE  🔗 **Source:** [Mike Winger Catches "Prophet" Lying LIVE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CApROMZE7oA) Mike Winger confronts a fake prophet live and it gets extremely heated. So this is a prophet named Gary Morgan who I mean this is an elaborate FBI level sting operation. Now earlier this year in a recorded Zoom call I actually confronted this fake prophet and the guys who've helped cover up for him. A guy named Peter and then more recently a guy named Allan. Peter you you cannot tell the truth. >> My gosh. >> Whatever. And this is and this is goes perfectly with Gary being a fraud. Gary, I'm convinced that you are a blasphemer and a fraud. >> This dude's fa I'm not I'm Listen, we got to laugh to keep from crying because this this dude is sitting there. His poor wife is next to him. He's being taken a task. Uh it's it's sad, but it's so sad that that that it's funny that this stuff keeps happening. This is in Australia, so it's a bit removed, but again, same uh culture of cover up where people are caught red-handed. handed the cookie jar and yet uh it's it's kind of waved away or brushed under the rug >> who lies in the name of Christ and then demonizes the very Christians who try to hold you accountable. It's disgusting. And Allen, you seem crippled to have the ability to just have the integrity to call out your own people, which is cuz this is what happens is what happened to these guys when they stood forward. You've got it. Okay, so this is a live stream. So these folks are the whistleblowers. Okay, they end up putting together this couple right here end up putting together some evidence and uh this is someone else that's a part of this process. They bring it to their leadership. The leadership waves them off. This is a guy named Gary who's a fake prophet and uh it it all culminates to what I would say is pretty undeniable evidence that he was detaining because they they they it caught him red-handed. It was like a FBI sting operation. >> It's it's nuts. It is nuts, Gary. There's no wonder why you why you run with you've run with Shawn BS in the past. you were doing the same thing as him at the same time as him. That call went on for over two and a half hours and that will also be part of this video. This fake prophet, his name is Gary Morgan. He is the Australian Shawn BS. Actually was a friend of Shawn BS and he ran with Shawn BS for a while. When he was first confronted about his fake prophecy, he actually used the excuse, well, you know, Shawn BS gets confronted like this all the time. You know, these accusations. >> Hi, I'm Shawn BS and I lead BS ministries in Los Angeles, California. And I want to recommend to you, Gary and Sarah Morgan. I've known them for over 13 years. I've been so inspired by both of them as teachers, healers, prophetic vessels, and Gary has been moving in a word of knowledge gift. >> So, so the word of knowledge gift is like you're getting divine insights from God that only you uh would know if God were to reveal himself to you. How they're doing this is they're going getting publicly available information, calling out people's addresses, birthdays, so on and so forth, and then presenting it as if they're hearing from God to then stand up and kind of give a a a prophecy of sorts to the person based on the information they're gathering from Facebook that they would seemingly not know any other way besides God telling them or going on Facebook. This is what got Shawn Bolsk caught and then a bunch of other allegations of essay from witnesses and all this stuff being presented to Bethl and in this case presented to other leaders it being ignored. Okay, now this is important. Why? Because this is where the scriptures describe 1 Thessalonians 5:20 it says do not quench the spirit. Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all. Hold on to what is good. Reject every kind of evil. May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul, and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, the one who calls you is faithful, and he will do it. So, here we see an instruction from Paul writing the church in Thessanica, which by the way was was a mess. They were dealing with all kinds of issues. Paul is telling, "Hey, don't don't question this. Don't question the spirit. Don't treat prophecies with contempt." And I see some of this like in a response to these terrible things. People will become hyper cynical of folks that believe in prophecy today, right? And yet the the verse is perfectly sandwiched with this idea, but test them all. Hold on to it as good. Reject every kind of evil. So often times the hypercharismatic is living with the first half of this. But when it comes to testing them all, holding on to what's good, and rejecting every kind of evil, lying in the name of God is evil. They don't want to do that. And then it makes the entire church look bad. And then this is why this sort of stuff is necessary. Now, let me give you guys an example for Mike's video of how these fake prophecies are executed. >> Okay. The first thing I saw was I saw a tap. It's like a tap the Lord was opening. And this tap had been closed for some time. And the Lord was opening this tap and he's saying, "The tap that I'm opening is opening the very things that have been closed to you." >> You'll notice that this is consistent. I'll spoil it for you. Now, he will say things that are meant, I believe, to prompt the audience to respond with information. So, he he knows stuff about them. He comes up with a way of hinting at what he knows. They're supposed to figure it out on their own. It's the same playbook that Shawn Bulls does. Exact same playbook. And then he acts surprised like, "Oh, that's your name. Oh, that's your birthday." Oh, that's So, he keeps saying the word tap. That's the thing he wants to use. You'll understand why, cuz it connects to her last name. >> And I saw the 16th of February and the name Esther. Let me describe. >> So, this is all on there. >> Esther Faucet is her name. Her birthday is on February 16th and faucet and tap. Okay, so for Australians, I'm told this by my Australian friends. They say tap. We say faucet. And they let me know this as as I was watching this video. I was like, "Okay, that makes sense." Um, and Gary will say as much later, too. This is meant to be a play on words. God's opening up a tap. That's what they would understand. American faucet. And she is supposed to be the one that connects the name tap to her name faucet. She doesn't. So, he will really kind of push it. And you'll see he spills his cards or he shows his cards a little bit. does this multiple times in these videos. >> Lo, I saw a guitar in her hand and songs she was writing. >> So, this is easily available info right on her Facebook page right at the right at the top. >> Yay. >> I want to just say real quick, >> I bet you he's going to act very surprised when she says, "My name is Faucet." Oh, I had A WORD FOR TAP. OH MY GOSH. >> Anybody who is in these videos, uh, God bless you. I'm glad and encouraged you had a zeal to know God and see God and be closer to God. you are not at fault here. Uh Gary Morgan abused and manipulated you. >> God was opening and that he was he was releasing creativity on you. I saw the 16th of of February. What's the 16th of February? That's your birthday. Okay. >> If God did give you her birthday, that would be beautiful. It would be a very special moment for a person. However, if you're lying about it, you're an evil sickopantic weirdo who is manipulating and abusing people for your own glory. And you don't care about them. You actually despise them based upon your activities, your actions. Notice how he leans on the word tap. Tap tap. It looks like he's trying to get her to say it. She won't. So, finally, he just asks her, "What's your last name?" >> Tap. I just saw a tap that was opening. The tap that's opening on your life. Even as I'm praying, I keep seeing the tap. Open up the tap. Lord, you play. >> I was doing a hand motion of a faucet so that she might get it. guitar a little bit. You write songs? Yeah. I see that tap of creativity. Your name is going to be known. Love. What's your name? Esther. >> She said her name and now people are laughing cuz they're like, "Oh, yeah. Obviously, it's the tab. That's the connection." These types of cutesy connections are consistent in Shawn BS as well as Gary Morgan. >> Oh, that's so bad. Okay, go watch the full video if you guys want to hear Mike's commentary on this. Again, it's it's well done. So, what happens is these folks figure this out. They present it to the leadership and the leadership basically waves it away, which again, this is when we're talking culture. We're talking about, hey, evidence is presented, evidence is waved away. Evidence is presented, it's nuanced away. Evidence is presented, it's explained away. This is this is when it it becomes a culture issue and not a, hey, somebody made a mistake, they owned it, they cleaned up their mess. In this video, Mike presents multiple examples of this and the folks who are the whistleblowers come together and bring it to the leadership. Leadership rejects it. So then they set a trap. Recap. So you're in the meeting, you you present a number of evidences. You're given what about this word? What about that word? And yet you can still look those up online. You can find all the stuff, even the extra ones they give online. It's just more red flags. Then you're I'm guessing you're understandably like I'm kind of up against a wall. We've got a ton of evidence and it doesn't seem to raise any alarms for you guys. Um what would it take? and they say, "Well, if there was a fake Facebook page and he called out a person that doesn't even exist, then it would be for sure." Um, that's the implication I'm getting from your story here. And then then Haley takes in takes up for the next part of the story. >> Right. Cuz the meeting moved on pretty quickly to say, "Um, but I want you to drop it. This is a distraction. I want you guys to leave it." >> Continued to feel concerned about it and quite um grieved as I would pray about it and things like that. So, I decided to make a fake person on Facebook and I made their first name Sarah. I made the birthday the 10th of June and I took a photo of a couple of sheep next door and I made that the profile picture. And >> this is so diabolical. This is so diabolical. Now, some of you guys are going to say, "Well, how can you trap someone like this as a Christian?" Well, there's, you know, Mike goes over this in a video. There's spies being sent uh, you know, to the promised land. There's examples of the this sort of stuff being done in scripture. So, if someone's not going to take ownership, the leadership is not going to listen to them. Uh this is what they believe they had to resort to. >> And um sent out some friend requests to try and make it look legit enough. And um and that was it. Like I'd thought about making a few like a few fake people. Um but >> she only had to make one. >> Again, didn't want to spend too much time on it and wanted to just trust God with whatever happened. So yeah, then it came time for Gary to come speak at our church again. In the leadup to it, our church put out a Facebook post um to say, you know, Gary will be speaking on Friday night and Sunday morning and Sunday night at our church. So I got my fake person to comment like, "Yay, I can't wait on that post because there was no event." >> That's literally the only thing that you did with that Facebook page was just one little comment. >> Yeah. >> And we got a screenshot of that. >> Yeah. But I was watching on live stream and Gary gave a few prophetic words to people uh who were like mostly not in the building again. So he gave prophetic words to live stream and then I'll never forget when when he said that he had a prophetic word for somebody called Sarah and he said that he had the date 10th of June. And I remember I just like inhaled sharply like >> I I seriously I'll go all night. Even if the next five hit nothing, I'll still go for it. Why? Because I've seen so many people changed by the goodness of God. Amen. Yeah. >> So he's he was already striking out. Is already striking out. >> The next one I got was I saw the 10th of June and I had my wife's name Sarah. I had Sarah on the 10th of June. >> She doesn't exist. Abs was a fraud. Oh, this is this is so hard to watch. >> Okay, let me go down the camera again. >> In that moment and I just felt like I just went numb almost like in shock at what had just happened. >> Yeah. Now, now I my guess is it's going to be, well, our plausible deniability is he just misheard this very particular name with a very particular date that she intentionally put out there as bait for him. I just I guess I just misheard God. This is the issue with prophecy. This is why uh folks like uh uh Remnant Radio, their slogan is make prophecy local again because you have folks flying in and doing this whole dog and pony show. Well, I think you could argue that if we're reading First Corinthians, this is not the way the gift of prophecy is intended to be used. And much like myself in this video, Mike Ringer is trying to desperately hold in his laughter here. >> Wow. >> And >> he gave me a call. >> Yeah. Run Nathaniel. And >> I remember your voice just shaking when she called me. I'd finished with the cameras. I picked up the Maybe I called you, but I remember your voice just >> Yeah. I felt like I was like trying to get the words out like he said Sarah 10th of June. That was my fake person. >> Okay. Okay, so now that's not even the craziest part. The craziest part is then there's an organized confrontation that happens several months back where he takes the whistleblowers who set this whole thing up, takes the fake prophet Gary, and takes the leaders of this entire thing and has a full-on confrontation regarding this sort of stuff. >> I think that I've been misled in my email exchanges even already with some of your the guys that I would say are your team, you know, Allan and Peter. So, I'm putting that right out there. So the purpose of this meeting in then is to either establish that I need to go and say, "Guys, I'm super sorry. I I I just bismerged this guy's character. I hurt his ministry." And I I would make that super public with a graveling apology. Um and if I was convinced it was true, I'd endorse your character and your ministry. Um on the other hand, if this has been not only the egregious fakery of the past, but ongoing cover up with allies doing doing this for you and then causing others who to hold you accountable to actually have to apologize. If that's the case, then that escalates things the other direction. So, that's the that's the stakes. It's So, I'm just putting it straight out there with you guys. We'll just talk like adults. And I want to I want to pass the ball first if I can to Gary uh and say, Gary, what is your position on all of this stuff? >> So, man, it would seem like there's progress being made in the right direction. Unfortunately, this guy Gary just basically denies all of it. >> Yeah, I I think yeah, there's a level of slander and accusation that's not true. And this is hard for me because again, this is something I've had to carry 10 years. And it's when this came out, you know, 10 years ago, I was open and willing to to meet with Nathaniel and Haley and and those that brought accusation. And, you know, I I didn't data mine. I hadn't data mine and I don't need to data mine in that sort of sense. my heart is always. >> So, you know, an easy way for him to demonstrate that he didn't data mine, like even if these were just however many half a dozen coincidences, right? Is is just put him in a position where he's in a room full of strangers. There's no Facebook event. There's nothing happening at a time. And let him demonstrate that same gift. Let him demonstrate that same prophetic gift where he can just call stuff out very particular numbers and and birthdays and stuff like that and provide that sort of evidence at at at at best that should be demonstrated and just say hey guys look at all this stuff that I did and you know I went into this event with no Facebook page and a bunch of folks I don't know I believe that's what Bethl attempted to do with Shawn BS and then Shawn BS fell apart I think from my my memory correct me don't quote me on that directly but I think they tried that and he didn't want to I think is what happened with Shawn BS So, that's an easy way to prove that you really do have this gifting of random numbers coming into your head and random names coming into your head and being able to prophesy. Well, can you do that if there's no Facebook page, there's no Facebook event, and you're in a room full of strangers that have no idea that you're coming. Okay. So, then Mike is confronted with, "What would it take you to believe that Gary is not guilty of these things?" Here's Mike's explanation, which I think is very reasonable. >> Um, just the falsification of the evidence that's been presented. the false >> if you get if you get the victim's finger or the the perpetrator's supposed you know accused if you get their fingerprints on the murder weapon what would you need to undo that well you would need to show how they got on the weapon that was unrelated to the murder you got to falsify the evidence somehow what we have is a number of examples of of of information that appear to have come from Facebook confirming not only the data is consistent with with stuff on Facebook right which is already very anomalous um but the people having checked in or been associated with the event or the person's name being known then we have the the Someone could call it enttrapment. I think it was a godly righteous thing to do to create that Facebook page um and say, "Hey, this could exonerate the guy, >> right? >> This this this could go either way." And you know, then all of a sudden he gives a word that looks like it comes right from the page. Then there's an email that shows up that then that Google account gets deleted when people start asking questions about it being associated with Gary. And then all of a sudden he's like, "I got hacked." >> Yeah, there was there's a whole email debacle in this too. Again, you can watch the full video. I I don't want to go into that, but uh that is also an exposure. his explanation of that is is while I was at dinner, which is as if you can't step into the bathroom and write an email while you're at dinner. There's layers to this thing >> act and all this stuff and um everything about that. It seems like the most plain on your face thing is that Gary's absolutely guilty and you guys are empowering him to do it and oppressing the people who want to hold him accountable. Now, this part is fascinating because Allan, this gentleman right here, grants that Mike's explanation and presenting of evidence looks like this dude Gary is guilty. >> But I think everything that we're pointing to is the need for the forensic examination because you're right, Mike. Any reasonable objective observer would come to a similar conclusion as the one you're coming to. Like, hey, >> any reasonable objective observer will come to the same conclusion. But yet, they didn't come to that conclusion. Why? Because this guy Gary's saying, "Well, I didn't do it." Now, what basically goes on to happen is that a email comes in from a girl named Sarah claiming that Gary's prophecy about her, the the fake Facebook page that they set up for the fake prophecy. A girl calls in uh emails in claiming to be that Sarah. Now, there's not a real Sarah here, okay? Remember, this is all a trap set for this dude to see if he's actually dynaming. >> The email said like, "Hi, I'm Sarah and that was my birthday, 10th of June, and I believe the word was for me." And apparently Gary also forwarded the email to Catherine cuz the supposed Sarah had emailed him. >> Okay, so email comes in. This is from the real Sarah even though their fake account set up to Sarah was not a real Facebook. And they get confronted about this for setting a trap. And now it looks like there is a real Sarah. But punch line, there's no real Sarah. And it's linked to a email that looks like Gary the fake prophet had access to. >> Email was from. And so this meeting this in the green room very quickly became about us and it it was really confusing to us because things were thrown around very quickly. Uh do you remember some of the >> Yeah. So Gary was asking us you know why did you set a trap? Uh that's what that's what he said that it was making a fake person on Facebook. Um and >> wouldn't that be acknowledgment of being guilty? Yeah, >> remember he quoted the scripture verse in Proverbs that says, "He who sets a trap will fall in it." And he seemed to imply that there was something Oh, I can't hear you. >> Oh, sorry. I want to remember forever that he said that to you. He who said cuz Gary has a way of just saying the things that backfire cuz this is a trap he said. It turns out we'll find out as you tell the story and it does. He is the one that falls into it. Actually, he's going to fall into it today as people see this video and find out the true story of what really happened here. But yeah, they they come against you for this this email which or this Facebook page which is nuts to me because every criminal of course in court who got caught from an under undercover cop pretending to be a prostitute or something is going to say, "Well, they tra they tricked me. They tricked me." You know, and this is irrelevant. Like that is just good undercover work. Like every espionage thing that has been successful was based upon the idea of having to do certain things in order to give the opportunity for someone to reveal themselves. And I think that is fine. You know, God says, "Why don't you send spies into the land?" So they hid their identities. Rahab hides them, you know, as they uh as they're checking out the the land of Jericho, this sort of thing. Uh Jesus even sometimes would travel in ways where he was incognito or ask people trick questions and lay traps for the Pharisees and stuff. Anyway, I'm just saying I'm in your corner. You don't even need to defend yourself. >> Okay. So then when they try to verify this Sarah's identity, this is what happened. >> Sarah in the email was responding when we asked, "Can you I believe Ben did, can you come forward? We just need to confirm your who you are." And the person said, "I'm going to >> Cambodia for 6 months. I won't be available." >> How convenient. >> So Ben obviously became more suspicious. They sent what's called a banana tracker in the email and asked, "Are you now in um Cambodia?" And they said, "Yes, I'm in Cambodia with Was it the Red Cross or with the Red Cross?" >> Sarah, I know that when she first emailed, she expressed interest in going to Gary's school, >> uh, which is also in Australia. >> Um, so now he's got to relocate. Well, this is this is what I'm going to conclude. he's got to relocate her to some far away location because she can't ever talk to anybody. She can't ever meet anybody if she doesn't exist, >> right? And for for us, um Ben sent what's called a banana tracker in the email with a friend and it showed that the person was still in Australia while claiming to be in Cambodia. >> Yesesh. >> We were then able to follow up with the Red Cross and there was no such serity at the at with the Red Cross on any missions trip in Cambodia. Uh so obviously became more and more suspicious and then um Haley and I actually worked with a private investigator locally who came to the conclusion that the surname Liberty is extremely rare and there does not seem to be an Australian with the name Sarah Lamty in all of Australia at the time was the conclusion that he came to. And so Ben actually confronted Gary with this information and um and let him know about this wanting him to repent because the other people he had gone to had in fact repented. Gary uh refused to repent and I believe Ben had told him that he would be looking into the email more um and so that which he planned to actually Ben's I guess hypothesis was when you create an email address usually it has a time that it was created if it was created on the same date that the events happened it was almost certainly made then or you might even be able to find out who owns the domain etc. So he told Gary he was planning to do that hoping Gary would repent. Um but the he did not and a Google expert with Ben found out that that exact day the serial limited email was deleted. >> Oh my gosh, these dudes did some amazing amazing work in bringing on an actual investigator to verify all this sort of stuff. >> And not only was it deleted, but when an email is deleted, >> an email account, not not just an email, right? The whole account was wiped. >> Correct. The whole account wiped and what happens is you see a screenshot with um >> zero days since this was deleted and you can see a recovery email. So Ben with the help of this um Google expert >> out of interest put a few recovery few emails in for the recovery email. None of them worked until they put Gary's email in and it confirmed and worked as the recovery email. So obviously at this point Ben was more than convinced that um Gary had been doing this that he had been behind um the events the whole time. And so Ben along with us put a document together uh to clearly make the case here. Uh it was called the sequence of events according to Gary I believe. Um I didn't know what a dossier was back then but we put the the document together presented it um to to Gary's board to Catherine. >> Editor Mike here. I just wanted to point out that we actually asked Gary and his guys about this email and in our confrontation they were never able to offer anything remotely resembling a satisfactory answer. This is just the ultimate smoking gun. >> Explain. Can I just ask how do you explain um Sarah and the 10th of June >> June being called out? No other email existing to prove that there is a Sarah Lamberty and Gary calling out the exact name date of a Facebook page. I only had about 12 comments on there. I I just how how do you explain that? >> Well, I'm in a fortunate position that I don't really need to explain it. Nathaniel, >> you realize the email's deleted. Ben then goes to Gary and says, you know, what's going on here? Somewhere around that time, Gary mentions that he's under some sort of attack himself, there was a bunch of uh, you know, he said he's getting like death threats or he's getting all these like personal threats and Ben said, "Oh, can you can you screenshot those? Can I can I read those threats?" And then he said, "Everything's been deleted. My account was hacked." Jeez. Okay, so Mike finally comes to his wits end. I'm surprised that he was able to remain this patient throughout this entire ordeal. This is craziness. The the the the fake the fake trap set with the fake Facebook account, the then fake Sarah, which then gets her account deleted, never comes forward. All of the data mining. Mike finally comes to his wits end. And uh it it's it's Yeah. What I see here, guys, is a ton of evidence. And I have not heard a good explanation for it, Gary, from you, except for you telling me that you're a good guy. A ton of evidence and those who are covering covering for you, I'll use the term, being duplicitous, at least Peter, being duplicitous in his engagement and in his behavior, being controlling, being um difficult in this in this process to try to make it harder and harder until people just give up because they have no good faith belief in it. you spoke as though Ben Fitzgerald was um on the fence or something else like this, but I talked to him and he very much believes that Gary is guilty and he just lost faith in you guys as people who would do anything about it. >> That was the reality. It wasn't an inconclusive investigation. That was never what it was. It was a ton of evidence, no good explanations alternately. And you writing presumed innocent, presumed innocent, presumed innocent until everybody just says, "Forget it." And then poor Nathaniel is is forced to apologize. Apologize, Gary. Please tell me how am I wrong? Look at this. This is this is a very significant amount of evidence. >> Mike, I agree to an objective observer. It looks exactly like that. And I haven't denied I called that uh the fake Facebook page, but it's it's what I saw. It's what I received. It's what I shared. And I can't give any other explanation for that. >> Jeez. All right. Now, this is the the finale, if you will. >> Peter, you you cannot tell the truth. >> Whatever. And this is and this is goes perfectly with Gary being a fraud. Gary, I'm convinced that you are a blasphemer and a fraud who lies in the name of Christ and then demonizes the very Christians who try to hold you accountable. It's disgusting. And Allan, you seem crippled to have the ability to just have the integrity to call out your own people, which is cuz this is what happens is what happened to these guys when they stood forward. You've got it. >> It's It's nuts. It is nuts, Gary. There's no wonder why you why you run with you've run with Shawn BS in the past. You were doing the same thing as him at the same time as him. >> Okay, so then the video goes on. They ask Mike some questions and you guys could go check that out. Here's here's the part I want to point out. I love what Mike said about calling out your own. Why are we talking about this Rouselon? Why why is this a conversation? Because I think unlike other pockets of the internet, whether it's political, whether it's religious sex, there has to be a cleaning of house and addressing the evil within your own communities. And despite popular opinion, Mike Winger believes in the gifts. I believe in the gifts. The issue is we've seen the gifts weaponized and this culture of coverup exposed to go beyond just the churches that are involved in it. So where now it's impacting people in Australia, it's impacting people in other continents. And this is all the downstream effects of Culture of Honor, of of Unpunishable, which shout out to John Mark Baker. He just did another video exposing how Daniel Silk's two little uh test studies uh of of being successfully restored were both dudes that uh continued on in patterns of abuse, particularly Ben Armstrong and uh the other gentlemen that they highlight who continued on with this sort of stuff. So this is what it means that it's a pattern. And so my humble opinion is be weary and skeptical of communities that cannot call out the evil within their own community. I'm not talking about splitting hairs. I'm not talking about being nitpicky for the sake of being nitpicky. I'm talking about when there's overwhelming evidence of someone completely doing something devious and and evil like speaking on God's behalf and no one is willing to call it out until they're finally caught red-handed. That is evidence of a dysfunctional and duplicitous wicked culture. Don't get it just that's not just exclusive to the hyperarismaniacs. That's there's multiple pockets that that behave this way on the internet outside of the internet where loyalty is viewed as the north star over truth and justice. And friends, that's wrong. So anyway, I'll pin Mike's video up over there. You guys could check it out. I mean, props to them. Props to the folks that came out of pocket hired private investigators to expose this sort of stuff. and and it just went on and on and on and you know there's a part in there where he shows how Bethl was aware of other folks using data mining and these folks you know to their credit came forward and repented after they were confronted well they didn't come forward they were confronted and repented so anyway we'll have this over here let me know you guys' thoughts and uh if you're new here make sure to hit that subscribe button like button all that stuff helps a ton like 60% of you guys don't uh aren't subscribed watch regularly hit the bell notification I'll see you guys tomorrow all right peace, Mike Winger Catches "Prophet" Lying LIVE, YouTube, 01ks5arg8vdn3nffddp3rv1gzz.