Mike Winger Exposes Another Failed Prophecy...  Mike highlights a video of Bill Johnson prophesying that the population of Reading would double. >> So, here we go. The failed prophecy of Bethl Reading. The failed prophecy that I will add again a move to Reading type prophecy where he's trying to get people to uproot their lives and move to his town. >> Um, for whatever reason, I don't always read the words that we get, the prophetic words. Um, but this one was given to me this week by Steve Wit. Steve W has been a very accurate and faithful prophetic voice. >> Okay. Again, uh it doesn't mean anything when Bill says someone's very accurate and faithful because he said that about Shawn BS and then continued to endorse him even after everything was exposed um insanely. Let's look at the prophecy. >> And uh there's one phrase in here that that helped me to realize I really need to read this to you even though the whole thing is good for all of us. Um this is the reading anointing. a chief navigator in perilous times. Remember that phrase for you. >> I think the shortcut to Bill's heart is prophesy something good about him. >> Chief navigator in perilous times. Reading is about to advance quickly as a city, doubling in size. >> Steve Wit should have said that the next decade is going to be the slowest growth that Reading has seen in a 100red years. >> First prophecy, Reading's going to double in size. That was 2009. And you can see Steve's got numbers up through 2019. I can give you their population in 2024 is 93,500. It didn't double in size. It went from 89861 in 2010 up to 93502 which is uh not not doubling in size, not remotely. >> And it didn't. And there's Benny Hen has prophesied a bunch of stuff that didn't come to pass. I I do understand that I I want to say your guys' position, but there does seem to be some distinction between Old Testament prophecy and New Testament prophecy. >> That's a debate to have. >> It is a debate. >> Okay. We actually don't have that as a position. You don't have that as a position. Okay. I thought that's what last >> We do believe there is a difference between Old Testament and New Testament when it comes to the prevalence of prophecy. Okay. meaning that in the new covenant the people of God are considered a prophetic people in accordance with Joel 2 fulfilled in Acts 2. >> Um but we wouldn't necessarily say that that prophecy the nature of it changed just that it's now widespread. >> Okay? >> There was prophecy in the Old Testament that was not inscripturated and there was prophecy in the Old Testament that was inscripturated. Okay? >> So like Isaiah scripture, right? Um but like Samuel had a school of prophets, none of them wrote scripture, >> right? So like that that is non-scripture prophecy and then there's scripture prophecy in the same way in the New Testament. We've got guys who uh you know Philip's daughters aren't writing scripture >> but John the revelator that whole books about prophecy right in that scripture. So it's like uh that those categories of like there are prophecies in the old testament that were canonical and the same in the new. Uh but that doesn't mean all prophecy is therefore canonical in that in that sense. say there's varying degrees of authority when it comes to the various revelations that God gives. >> Sure. >> One revelation would be scripture and that would be the uh foundation level authoritative word of God. >> Okay. >> Um Paul seems to distinguish between these two in Corinthians. You know, he's got all these people prophesying and he say, "Hey, let him who thinks he's a prophet recognize that what I'm writing are the very words of God." >> And so, and he's talking to the prophets when he says that. But then when it comes to their prophetic words, he doesn't say just recognize it's God. He says let two or three prophets speak. Let others pass judgment. >> Right? And when you say more authoritative, I mean the reality is God is ultimately authoritative however he speaks whether through scripture or through a prophetic word. >> But we don't test scripture. We receive scripture. But the scripture does tell us to test prophecy. Y so an untest so when somebody is prophesying we can't take it as immediately and automatically authoritative in the same way when we open up a Bible we can take it as immediately and automatically authoritative this must be tested at the end of the day if it's tested if it's weighed if a whole community is saying like uh we can say this is authoritative but at the uh but again at the end of the day the scripture is the more sure word of of prophecy because even a whole community could test it incorrectly and that's happened at Bethl as you mentioned >> this is why we say let prophecy be local again make prophecy local because we want the actual prophetic words to be tested by the community in which they're spoken in when you put it out there on the YouTube uh there is no testing of it and there's no way to hold those people accountable for it >> which is why you need people also doing YouTube reviews >> and they resist accountability too because whenever you know they they want you to do a Matthew 18 and go and and talk to them personally in order to have a conversation about their word before you evaluate their word publicly. Whereas, >> but you didn't come and prophesy that word to me privately before you gave it publicly. >> Exactly. Whereas we would say, you know what, public teaching, public prophecy is publicly evaluated. That's just the way it is. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, go ahead. I'm sorry. >> No. Okay. Last thing I'll say is the one of the other reasons um is not just for disciplinary reasons for why we want prophecy local, but because we want the people receiving prophecies to not just be wowed by the prophecy, but be wowed by the character of the person giving the prophecy. >> Right? Like I actually want to know, oh, the person that's prophesying to me, like I I know that they're sacrificial, that they they they love their spouse. They they really care about the scriptures. They're a faithful teacher. They're they're a faithful student of God's word. Maybe they don't have to be a teacher necessarily, but like they're orthodox. >> They're orthodox and like they, you know, they they love the body of Christ. They share the gospel with the lost. They take care of the poor. It's like I I I want you to know that the person that's doing ministry is a person of in of character and integrity. Um because we're supposed to be able to judge prophets by their fruit and so often we're just trying to judge them by their prophetic word. And I think that's where we got off because if if if we're going to bring it back to Shawn for example, if he's a local guy, you know, and he's he's praying on people in the church, word's going to get around uh and and there's going to there's a wolf in the pen and people are going to figure it out. But because this guy is able to be itinerant, >> um people don't catch on as quick. >> Yeah. Guys, the second annual Bless God Summit is happening March 5th, 6th, and 7th here in beautiful Oceanside, California. 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