The InnerSource Commons Roundtable ![rw-book-cover](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Y3QQssEnG8o/maxresdefault.jpg) So um in this I mean 10-minut session I'd like to introduce about the inner source community. So uh no local community more specifically. So actually insource stories are everywhere. So you can find some case studies in your region and it means inner source local community or maybe the practitioners are also everywhere across the world. So we are collaborating to learn more and practice more on inner source and then grow more. So actually uh this is all about local community but actually innosource commons and know inner source community itself is I mean essentially global community. So it started in the United States but in in Oscon uh in 2015 actually uh we our first summit is I mean including the private one uh is started in 2015 but actually for I mean more public one we started our I mean global conference in 2016. Thor and uh we did so many summits on uh the United in the United States and then in addition to the United States uh we had a uh Switzerland, Germany and Ireland and summit and then yeah probably some of you who join us uh today joined the Innosource summit this year in maybe in Yokohama uh Berlin or uh New York. And apart from uh inner source summit there is a specific program called inner source gatherings. So, Inosource gathering the very first one was I mean initiated in Dublin and then modeled uh after Dublin actually we uh officially started the program in Tokyo from Tokyo and then actually in 2024 there are uh seven gatherings uh in Tokyo, Berlin, Vienna, D uh Dublin, Shenchen uh Paris and then Tokyo again and in 2025 there are six uh gatherings So Berlin, Paris, uh Tokyo twice, London and S. Paulo. So this is our community and then actually you can also start your community. Um if you are uh interested in building your community, so please visit gatherings.inosource.org. You can find uh some uh records of the event. For instance, uh Innosource gathering. Yes. So in the inosource gathering page uh there are event reports available for each gatherings. For instance in Tokyo gatherings there are so many um speakers speak about shared some inner source case studies right. So you can start your own community or just you can start I mean if you are not interested in uh being the community leader but you you are still okay to I mean uh build some conferences or have some meetups in your region of course. So yeah then actually there are several types of event in this foundation. So the first one probably the biggest one is the summit. So it's the global conference and then gatherings is a local conference. So actually in between gatherings and community calls there must be some local uh meetups which is more smaller or midsize uh meetups which is not um I mean what we call conference. However, I mean you have flexibility to align your community or maybe align your market uh industry size because um uh typically uh some of the uh specifically more I mean smaller industry or maybe countries uh it's inner source term uh might be not that popular. So actually you can start small and then expand your community. So um let me introduce some I mean cases uh about uh our community. So I'm the uh Japan community initiator. So actually I will share some uh what happened in Japan. So I will switch my slide. So technically Japanese community I mean has started in 2022. So our translation project has uh had been started from maybe 2020. However, I mean comm when it comes to the community program perspective our community has uh started in 2022. So in actually 2016 innosource the term innosource is not that popular is has just landed in Japan without any context. So and then Yoshiake who is the I mean translator of the innosource learning path and also I started the I mean initial activities on innource on evangel uh evangelizing inner source and then actually there are several presentation from me and also other people but actually in 2021 um inner source if you search on inner source in Japanese actually it shows only inner soul I result. So, but actually uh we translated Inosource patterns as the community effort and then we uh did some online meetup because um it's still um I mean uh there there are some sense of I mean community is not that big. So actually we started to record some videos uh for Inosource and then we as a again as a community effort uh we started to translate uh some books into Japanese and then we try to I mean we did some uh edit on uh Wikipedia on Inosaurus. So we are we uh built some Japanese informations. So in 2023 so something amazing happened. So out of blue actually some company started to practice inner source. So it was an kind of amazing thing for me. So actually I didn't even realize that but actually I found uh some blogs who uh write writing about inner source. So and then actually in 2024 we uh did the first Inosource gathering in Tokyo. So this is the story of Inosource gathering and then something more interesting happened. So uh I will share stop share and also actually I will start um sharing again uh with sound. So this is insource hero. So um probably you can feel enthusiasm by this music. So actually this is from KDDDI which is a telecommunication company and then he created a song for inner source. So about the readme and then contributing MD and to attract people to and to let them start in the source. So this is the brief introduction and also there is an uh another English version of the song. So uh you can also search Inosource man. So initially Inosour Hero was called Inosource man. However um when it comes to DEI actually we renamed uh to Inosour but um anyways so this is the enthusiasm of this I mean Japanese community. So there are other uh community available. So I only listed some active and also um active Inosource community programs for each oh sorry about that for each region. So they they are the point of contact. However of course there are so many community activities in Germany and then probably Thailand and other communities. So I did haven't listed because um uh when it comes to uh yeah community program local community program so there are specific name available. So but actually if you can't find your name or maybe if you can't find your regions in this list of course there must be there must be so many practitioners uh of inner source in your region. So we can probably connect you to the maybe point of contact or maybe the leader in this comm in the region or maybe potential practitioners of inner source. But um yeah feel free to ask us about the community and our local community. You can start your own community and then again if you are not interested in I mean leading community or having gatherings you can still um build uh create your I mean regional slack channel in inner source commission and then actually you can uh of course start translating your um the resources of inner source or you can just start blogging on inner source but um it's up to you. So um we have flexibility on that and um if you have some ideas uh for your region please ping us and then please let us know about your idea. So your idea and your activity and your I mean opinion must be heard and then actually uh we are looking forward to receiving it. So and then more specifically uh there are some um style for gatherings. So there are uh three styles for gatherings micro gathering and then community meetup summit conference. So typically we call like gatherings for uh when it comes to um I mean event program perspective from event program perspective we uh treat summit conference as a gatherings. However yeah you can freely start your I mean micro gathering or micro meetup in your region of course. Yep. So let's build inner source together in your region. Thank you very much. >> Okay, so hello everyone. I'm uh Jeff Bailey. I work over at Nike. Uh I'm a principal engineer there. What I do is a focus on open an open source program office there. And I'll talk to you a little bit about that. Um, I probably won't be as exciting as Yuki, but uh, see, I'm more of a brass tax type of person and I like to, uh, get into the weeds of working on artifacts and, uh, guidance for inner source program offices, which I will introduce to you briefly here. So, uh, if you're not familiar with an inner source program office, it's a lot like an open-source program office, but it's focused on inner source. And what we do is we in a intentional way uh organize around building uh communities and uh stitching people together and pushing them toward building reusable and high impact software projects and sometimes documentation. There's no boundary there in terms of how you can contribute to an inner source program. Um and so in this group what we do is we work together uh to build the content that will help you drive your inner source program office. Uh so Russ Rutled and Kier are trusted committers in there. We're all leaders that are pushing forward uh inner source program offices together. So if you need any help with any of that then please DM any of us. I'm just signing them up right now for that uh cuz I think they'll be happy to help. Um there's a channel, a Slack channel that we join and I'll show you more about that in a little while. Um and feel free to stop me at any moment if you have particular questions. I like to do interactive presentations instead of just talking uh a lot. Uh so next here uh what do we do? Uh we build inner source resources together. So you may hear about patterns and practices from Russ or uh Sebastian if he shows up. There's another book that we adopt a kindly adopted uh called the managing inners source projects book which helps you manage inner source projects within your inner source program. Uh they can also be used on the side without an inner source program. There's people that have come in here that just are interested in inner source and have benefited from these materials. So the learning materials we teach you how to do all those things. The inner source hero helps you mostly uh tools and templates uh you know we build uh metrics. So there's goals questions and metrics I'll show you a little while that we use uh to measure the value of inner source as we know the industry wants us to show value. Uh and so how do we do that? We attend bi-weekly meetings. Highly encourage you uh to join those meetings. It's a good place to learn from other experts in the industry and uh bring your problems, bring your challenges and I'll speak to that in a little while here. So, how do you get involved? You join the Slack channel, ESPO working group in the inner source comments and I will show you our calendar a little while where you can attend a meeting. you just add that to your calendar. And if you have a challenge uh you are having difficulty getting people to adopt inner source in your company, then I encourage you to join the ISPO working group and learn how you can get past some of those hurdles. So I'm going to show you a little bit about the OSPO book. So I was working in the past with Yuki on this. We are planning on adding a chapter on the inner source program offices. So this is a good place to jump in directly to start learning about an OSPO and then as an extension the ISPO. So you can take a look there and the ISPO working group. This is again an overview. We have a inviting contributing MD here. So if you want to join that uh go to that URL you can learn how you can contribute. So you are going to come in, propose your challenge to the ISPO working group, review some contributions, maybe you see some contributions you have expertise on or you want to learn more about just by leaning in and again participate in the meetings and we publish content to the managing inner source projects book and the inner source patterns and there's plenty of information on how to attend the meeting and our board etc. And so there's another, you know, there's a nice documented page here if you want don't like markdown, you don't like uh poking around. And I want to show you a little bit about Russ here. So Russ has another presentation. So if you don't like my presentation, you can go look at Russ's presentation. I really like uh how he put it together. So there's a particular section where he says, "No two companies are the same, but not every company is wholly different either." And so if we work together uh in this community to sol to to meet our challenges and to build content for uh together in an open source fashion then we we all win. We all win in that uh that scenario. And so I want to show you a little bit of the work products that we have here. So we have uh goals uh goals questions and metrics was something we worked on. This is in the managing inner source projects book. Another thing we worked on you'll see at the bottom here is there's a integrated comment section. So you sign in with GitHub and you have questions about goals, questions, and metrics. You can jump in there and ask questions directly within the book. So as you're learning, you can you're going to get messages on that. Everyone in the community will see that. This is super helpful. Uh there's a goals here. So you're trying to find inner source projects in your company. This is a challenge I had when I came in Nike. I was like where are the uh inner source projects? Where are the projects I should use as a template to start building my first back-end service for example? That right there is high value in terms of understanding where your software is and where the reuse lies within your company. So that goal can be met uh through metrics. So who uses the inner source projects? You can count how many times a project is used across the enterprise and other details like where it's used etc. So then the patterns uh this one also speak to this I hope later but patterns is where we contribute as well and some of these key patterns are for example inner source before open source. This is something that we continually see coming in our community. So, we worked on some of this uh pattern here trying to expand the value of it and eventually get it published in the book here on the lefth hand nav to be able to get more information. So, speaking quickly to where is it? Um trusted committer. This is a pattern we follow as well. We're drinking our own wine here. We are trying to make sure that we are using the patterns themselves uh as we work as a community in the inner source comments. So this is another work product that we uh contributed to. It's a we a lot of times people are like what is my playbook? How do I get from point A to point Z in my inner source program? Uh this is a good place to come in and see how do I scale inner source at my company and get an overview. You can interactively click on these expand details. If you go into some of these nodes, you'll see uh direct links to patterns etc that are applicable to the journey that you're the part of the journey you're in within your inner source program office. And so this is how you can contribute. You can come to our board here. We have many challenges that we just talk about in this meeting typically or comes through Slack. Someone says, "How do I do this?" or "I'm having a challenge of that." Um Michaela has been focusing on creating an ISPO playbook. It's something >> and I have I have it pulled up if anybody wants to see it. >> Yeah, it's it's more of a micro uh jump into inner source. A lot of people get overwhelmed with the amount of information that comes through uh their company and I I completely empathize with that. Uh we are all information overloaded today uh in the current age. So that's always welcome simplified uh ways of of working. And so the the calendar is where you can find uh details about the next meeting. So today is the 4th. It looks like our next working group meeting is here. So you can just go into this calendar and go to copy my calendar and add yourself to the next meeting. There you go. And then the channel uh there are bookmarks in the channel. You can see all the things we just talked about here. So this is a really good place to just jump in and then ask questions if you are in the channel. I do an at here. I try not to do at channel because I don't like to make people mad. Uh we we let everyone know that's online that there's another meeting coming up about 24 hours before the meeting and it's a great way to just be become part of the community itself is just to join the meeting even just listen in understand a little bit about what's going on in the inner source world. Uh highly recommend uh jumping in there. Uh so with that um are there any questions? Thank you everybody for being here and thank you for the opportunity to speak. Uh well uh Olive already introduced me a little bit before. I will introduce myself again and at some point in my talk here uh first so what was the mission that I was given today? Uh prepare 10 minutes chat on uh these two topics. my role as the local inner source summit lead for Berlin and uh also what inner source and inner source commons means to me uh three slides were mentioned but I guess that was not a formal constraint I think that the time and the 10 minutes are were the actual constraint yeah so because I I went over three slides cannot do anything with three slides I guess don't have that power uh so first of all about me I joined SAP in uh 2010 as a developer. Before that I had already uh around nine years of experience in software development but a different realm. So I I am a former developer. Um I don't develop software anymore although I think I will always be a developer. It's kind of a state of mind, right? And um I am a long-term open-source enthusiast. Uh I would uh use the word enthusiast here because to be honest I don't have a lot of contributions like source code contributions to to open source. I have like uh one uh big one and uh and some other small ones. Uh but now I am involved more on communities around open source uh projects like this one and so on and even with the topic of inner source. Uh talking about that uh I have become an inner source officer at SAP. This is not like uh chief something or anything like that. It's just a job title. Uh that means uh one of my main assignments is to uh spread uh the inner source culture at SAP, grow the awareness and grow the adoption of inner source at at SAP where I am uh also a member of the open source program office that's actually my team since uh 2022. So about my role in the inner source summit as you know we recently had this uh crazy idea of doing an event that runs across uh three different locations hosted or co-hosted by three different companies and I was the one that was responsible to make this happening uh in Berlin and that is where it was hosted by SAP. So uh to describe a little bit about what does my role entail, I would say it's about making sure that everything happens well uh locally in in my own subvent. say so things like uh helping select the talks and the speakers uh helping u uh let's say ensure that we have a smooth check-in experience that the speakers have a good experience that they know what the the conditions will be that they know when uh to be where and all that kind of stuff during the day. also the catering or all the details like the technical things that have to happen at the event to ensure that the slides are showing up that the that everything else is working. So all that those things I was uh responsible for uh securing the venue the budget. So all that and on top of that what uh we have to do when now to use a software engineering u uh term I would say is implement the right interfaces so that we could plug this local event into this global event and that is stuff like ensuring that we use the same ticketing system as everybody uh keeping in contact with the global event organization that means olive uh all the time to be sure that things are on track and uh be sure that we are broadcasting the right way because this was a hybrid event that's broadcast all uh across the the world. So people could join virtually and have a smooth experience as if it was one big event. And as part as of that experience we also had this uh idea that the events they should not just coexist but they should be connected to each other. So we did this handovers that we also had like onsite we saw uh what was happening in Yokohama and then we said hello and then they handed over the torch to us and then after that in the afternoon we did the same uh for IBM. So these are the kind of interfaces that I am uh talking about. Yeah. So this was uh a very interesting experience and I think it's important to say uh why uh did we did do this or personally why did I want to do this and why did I want SAP to host uh this event so there are thing I think it's two main reasons one I wanted to give back to the community I have been a member of inner source commons for quite some time I have been attending the the events that we had until now virtually. I have participated on great on-site events and gatherings organized by other people and uh I was feeling like it's uh I should do something like that too. Now it's my turn to get people to my home and and welcome them and give them a good time. So this is something that I wanted to do and I also wanted then what's in for SAP I wanted to strengthen the message that uh inner source is something that we want at SAP that's very important uh we have to constantly remind people mainly uh our own people that hey this is something that you can do you should do and you should prioritize this. So we wanted to send that message too and of course associate the brand of SAP with this topic of inner source that I consider so important uh in the tech community and well uh for the world I would say. Yeah. And what were the results? Uh this is a very nice picture that we took at the end of the event. It doesn't even show everybody who was there at this point in the event. Some people had already left. Uh but I like this picture very much. It show that everybody's having a great time there. And uh we did at the end have 11 presentations and many more presenters uh because it's we had many occasions where we had more than one presenter uh for each presentation. In one occasion I think it was even three people uh doing a presentation together. We had uh 3 hours uh more or less of space for people to network like at the at the check-in, at the breaks, at the lunch and all that. And I think that went very well. I saw a lot of people interacting and talking to each other. And we did have an aftervent get together that was also a great opportunity for people to to network. So that's not part of those 3 hours and not everybody was available to go there but I think we had maybe around 30 to 240 people at the get together. Yeah. Uh in total we had seven uh 67 on-site attendees coming from 29 different organizations and I think 26 more or less of those were SAP employees. So we also provided great content internally to our uh employees and I like to say this uh for me it was like a great inner source party after thinking a little bit it felt like my inner source birthday in terms of like having a party where everybody's coming to my home and I have like this opportunity to re receive all these nice people that I know from the community and engage with them which is something that it's not so often that we can do that on site and tons of positive uh feedback which was uh also great. So the last part what inner source commons means to me and what inner source means to me. I think that's a very interesting question to answer that. Uh I think I I have to say like what is my vision for the world? I would like to be able to live in a world where everything is open source. Yeah. Not not everybody shares that vision. uh it's a bit complicated and I know that we will probably not uh get going to get there easily. There's a lot of constraints and so on. So why not then aim for something a little bit uh easier that is what if we could live in a world that at least the things that cannot be open source were were like if they were but in a limited scope like within the organizations that are handling those things and this is inner source for me once I had the first experience more than 10 years ago where I contributed to a project it was not my first contribution to another project But it's the first that looking back felt like open source. Uh then everything where I could not do that became extremely frustrating because I knew another world was possible. One that empowered me to be the one participating in the solution of my own problems. So that is inner source for me. And what is inner source commons where it's it's uh the place where it feels like an inner source home. It's this community. is this great place of like-minded people that not necessarily share my vision that everything has to be open source but they do share this other vision that whatever cannot be open source should be inner sourced and that is where I feel the sense of belonging in this community where I know I will find other people to collaborate with and to learn from and to share experiences yeah with that a little bit over 10 minutes uh let's build inner source together and thank Thank you everybody for hearing me out. >> So I I'll share my slides in a minute here. What I wanted to go over. So my role now is as the executive director of the inner source commons and also I'm a very longtime member of the inner source community. So what I wanted to share is a little bit of perspective from both of these roles. um both uh thinking about the inner source and the inner source commons foundation uh uh worldwide and what uh what is our role what are we trying to accomplish together where are things going and then I also want to reflect a little bit and share some of the history from the beginnings of inner source and the inner source commons until now um so I'll I do have a few slides it's way more than uh than three slides let me share my screen here. Uh, just a second. All right. And I'm going to just use these are some slides that Yuki made. So, some of them you can see already. Uh, and oh, hold on a second. Okay. Let me try to reshare. Here it is. Okay. All right. So, I'll go through some of these fast. Some of them you've seen before. It's really just a chance to for to put my memory to some talking points. So, we're here in 2025 uh talking about inner source. Uh some of these I went over at the New York event. I won't go through in in detail, but yeah, a little history. So, inner source, the concept uh at least as a term started in the US in the year 2000 with Tim O'Reilly, the O'Reilly from O'Reilly Media, who was attempting to start a business actually around inner source consulting at the time. Uh so uh from there things went dormant for a while until here the year 2015 Denise Cooper who was the founder of inners source comments uh decided that she wanted to make inner source a worldwide move it and the purpose was and I heard a question about this earlier was to teach more people how to do open source and open source development and in these early years uh 2015 and 2016 the inner source common started and there were a few summits. Um I joined the worldwide inner source movement in 2017 at a summit that was happening in Chicago in the US and that was where I got the chance to meet Denise for the first time and a little bit about what inner source meant to me. Uh I was uh working at Nike where Jeff is located now. I think Jeff wasn't at the company yet but he and I got the chance to meet there anyway. I was working at Nike and without knowing it, I was doing inner source. I had an innersource project. Um I didn't call it inner source at the time, but it was uh around running continuous deployment of uh Nike's websites. We had like every website at the company on the same deployment pipeline and everyone was doing inner source contributions to it. So I was looking for a I realized the problems I'm solving, they weren't unique to me and having the mindset of collaboration and sharing. I wanted to go out and find others that were trying to solve these same problems in their company. I thought I can't be the only one having these issues. I want to work together. And so I found the Interceource Commons which was really in its infas in infancy and had the chance to meet Denise there in in 2017. And uh the whole thing I wanted to do which I'm still trying to do today is to collaborate as much as possible around how to run inner source in our organizations. Uh as Jeff shared earlier, I started the ISPO working group. Uh I think that was around 2020 or so with the idea that we shouldn't all go and try to figure out how to do inner source at our own organizations. There should be some type of open-source tooling, training, documentation that we can all create, all submit to some common location and then all reuse within our companies. And uh so I I got involved actually here 2020 in creating the inner source learning path that's on the website. I was the the project leader gathered an open source group of people and we co-created the learning path together that we could all use within our within our companies. And this really is still the vision I have. We all need source. As Jeff shared, I I put that presentation not all of our companies is different. We need a common place where we can come together and work on inner source. Uh so really the inner source comments to me was an open- source location to do inner source. So we're we're open sourcing our inner source some tooling but mostly open- source uh documentation. And I I remember in the in the early days here in um 2017 2018 it felt like worldwide there was only a handful of organizations that were doing inner source by name. Uh and we all knew each other. Uh it was a a a tight-knit group and I remember kind of around 2018 getting into 2019 all of a sudden we started seeing people have uh blogs. I remember the first time I saw a blog that was on inner source that was from someone I've never met before. Uh I've been working I think for 2 years and kind of aware of everyone that was talking about inner source. So seeing the way that started with a few US and European participants until now uh just completely completely blows my mind. Let's see if we go uh forward here. I think Yuki talked about this or not this one the yeah the the gatherings. I mean I I never seeing the way that things have come worldwide from where they started where we had a close group in the US and Americas and everyone knew each other. It's amazing all the Tokyo gatherings. There's a robust uh China inner source community. They're having a gathering uh next week uh by the way that are very highly attended by uh by the most influential uh organizations uh and companies in China. Uh yeah, seeing that inner source hero in that video that Michaela called out is is simply simply amazing to me to think of the the worldwide community that we have today. So, uh let me just go forward from here. Um so that's uh recognized uh from kind of the late uh 2010s whereas this close group uh things have really exploded as far as awareness of inners source. Uh here I'm familiar with uh a lot of these US uh centric touch points for inner source. I think just the global community is a is a great example of the growth. Uh also the uh Gartner publication uh put inner source on the hype cycle for software engineering. Actually in 2023 it was among the uh the top uh trends for software engineering that was released at their Gartner London conference. Uh inner source was at the top of the list. It's showing up here on the uh Gartner hype cycle for software engineering. Uh here two years ago was the last time they released this publicly. Uh we've confirmed from contacts at Gartner that inner source continues to show up on the 2024 2025 hype hype cycle uh going up the peak of inflated expectations as people are uh seeing the um uh the the uh uh challenges and opportunities with integrating into organization. uh there's like a crossing of this peak and now where we're at I think with inner source worldwide is needing to get as fast as we can up this slope of enlightenment and to the plateau of productivity around around inner source and my vision what I'd like to see is the innersource commons is occupying a leading spot and being the hub where companies and organizations can work through the challenges that they have with innersource and publish those results holds publicly to help other companies to get through these challenges faster. I think later on I have a slide about a few of those. Let me go forward and see what's next here. Um oh yeah so the inner source comments foundation I think this was shared before uh a ton of companies and organizations and now uh have we've collected and shared stories about what's happening with inner source. Um the people I think is one of the strongest assets of the innersource uh commons. Uh look at all these people that are just having a great time with inner source. Uh they love inners source and they love being with each other. The Inner Source Commons has a concept of membership for uh community participants that are continually involved in moving inner source forward uh at a foundation level and across the world. And there's a wonderful tradition that just started on its own where every time there's two members that are together uh they take a picture and share it. So here's a few that I had access to uh from people in the Americas. Um, this wasn't something we had to tell people to do, but people love being with each other so much that there's always a picture uh taken and shared. Um, I think uh this watercolor from the Berlin Summit is an interesting aspect that captures how people feel about Inner Source and the Inner Source community. The fact that an attendee uh would decide to make a watercolor I think expresses a depth of feeling and connection uh that's had in the inner source commons throughout the world. As Germe said the summit just in Berlin just gave a place where that uh where that could be reflected and expressed. So it's really an amazing community. Um you know some tangible wins here. Inner Source showed up uh at the United Nations uh open source event uh happening uh last summer. I've been in touch with the organizers. They're having an innource focus to part of the UN open source event uh in the upcoming year as well uh more local to me. The US government passed a bill basically requiring inner source to happen uh within federal government. It's the Share It Act uh to mandate sharing between government organizations. So really they're reaching for inner source. So it's amazing to see these worldwide strides that are being to taken and there's probably stories like this other parts of the world that I'm not quite as close and connected to. So really the community and inner source is in a strong position and reaching to expand even further. What I want to see let me go ahead a little bit here because I think I'm running out of time. uh our leadership really what what I want to see and what I think needs to happen for the benefits of inner source to reach across the world as soon as possible is for the innersource commons to uh focus and maintain itself as the hub and central collaboration space for inner source knowledge. This works out as in the gatherings that Yuki talked about in the summit uh in uh the publishing that we do in the patterns and other books that Jeff talked about. Um I think that we need to have more uh written work and publishing because that can endure and become uh a part of AI knowledge uh on on the internet. And we do this through building a strong inclusive community. And in the inner source commons, we work open-source style to share knowledge about about inner source. Uh so let me go ahead because I'm getting started. So I think I'm running slower on time here. Um so we talked about how one way we do this is through working groups in the inner source comments. Um there's some working groups that are active today. Jeff talked about the ISPO working group. A working group is a set of folks in the inner source commons community that want to get together to tackle a common challenge or a common need and hopefully to produce something that can be shared within the inner source commons. The working groups have a dedicated slack channel and a regular me meeting series to meet share knowledge and work on publishing information about a specific topic. The working groups that are there is f flexible. These are some working groups that are here today, but anyone who has an idea for a working group, uh, please reach out to me. We'll see if there's a way if your topic is not covered by an existing working group to start a new one and collaborate with others in the industry around particular challenge or aspect of innersource. So a few um a few ideas uh these I took from the Berlin summit where a working group or other publishing or collaboration is needed. Uh the topic of transfer pricing I've heard for several years uh we still don't have anything published in the inner source commons about this. I think these and the other topics are uh AI uh also of course is the top of the list is a good opportunity for the community to come together in future gathering summits and working groups to publish and share more information. Uh we have to do it in order to continue to be the central hub and the central collaboration space for inner source knowledge in the industry. Uh let me see what else I have here. Yeah, a few other few other ideas. I think this is from the uh Berlin area as well that show topics that can be worked on in the inner source commons. Let's see. We talked about the United Nations and share it act. A little bit about inner source and AI. This is where I think we have opportunity and really we need to as a community to uh come together and lead in defining what does inner source mean and why is it relevant in the age of AI. uh I'll give my opinion which I also uh shared at the summit is that uh in the AI area era inner source is more relevant than ever. Um I I've heard some people say like well maybe inner source isn't needed because generating code is easy and cheap. Uh so it doesn't matter if there's duplicated work. Um but we're finding that's not uh true. uh first of all AI is the ultimate inner source consumer and everything that needs to be done to enable project discovery and contribution for a human is also needed for AI clear documentation clear readme uh also um AI can code generation can do quick prototypes but need so much guidance it's far easier for company to encapsulate its best practices in inner source projects that are been shared and AI leverages instead of AI having to write everything in in Scratch. And also AI and code generation will lower the technical barrier to create new code. And increasingly the difficult part of software development is teamtote team and persontoperson collaboration which is a big part of what inner source is meant to solve to break down those engineering silos. In the past, uh because code took longer to create, uh maybe it was okay or not as never, it's never okay, but not as damaging to have the collaboration between teams go slower. But as code generation becomes cheaper, the percentage impact of of teamtoteam and persontoperson bottlenecks will become a greater uh inhibitor to effective software development. So we can't afford to um to have our teamtote team silos continue. They will quickly become the limiting factor in company effectiveness and all the inner source practices that break those down are more needed than ever. All right, I think I've got about 15 minutes here, so I want to stop. I know we're on the time. I see some things have shown up in the chat. I haven't looked at them yet, but um I guess just in closing, I'll say the reason I'm here and the reason I I actually just went and looked before this meeting at my application for executive director of the inner source commons and what I wrote there, I'll share with you about about what inner source means to me. Uh when I think about the world today and the problems that exist worldwide, I know there's so much in software that could help uh problems that are in the world and individuals that are in the world. And I also I believe there's more to do than as a a worldwide and companies collective that we're able to do. And so inner source to me is a gift to give to the world to make everyone in it as effective as possible at helping each other with the software they're making. At the same time like Germe my background is in software development and I know the enobling power that comes from the ability and autonomy to work in an inner source manner. It's a gift that I've received and I would be happy if I could spend the rest of my life working to give that to the world and all the engineers in it. It's uh it will always be I guess my tribe is the the engineering and development population and I know Inner Source is a gift to them. So I'd be happy if I could find a way to work on that uh for the rest of my life and I know I have a home for that and I'm glad to be here in the inner source commons. All right, I'll stop., The InnerSource Commons Roundtable, YouTube, 01km11egzgm9a7j5ke538c1aat.