The Robots Are Getting Hacked | the Standup  ## Metadata - Author: [[YouTube]] - Full Title: The Robots Are Getting Hacked | the Standup - Category: #articles - Document Tags: [[video-notes]] [[youtube]] - Summary: The Robots are getting Hacked | The Standup - URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxvfd2wi8ZQ Today we're talking robots, okay? And not just any robots. Robots with a massive exploit. An exploit so juicy and so hilarious that they just completely went dark. Didn't talk to anybody. And we're going to find out all about it today. And so Casey, why don't you give us a little bit of a walkthrough cuz you're the one that found this sweet, amazing article. And so why don't you kind of give us a bit of a walkthrough of what happened and then we kind of can go from there. >> Yeah. And I'll be completely honest, this one was a bit perplexing to me. Um, I don't work with robotics, so it's a little out of my comfort zone, but I saw it. It was, uh, it was actually a security research. You know, you know how security research firms, they publish these like white papers that are like, "Hey, we hacked the crap out of like, you know, the Jeep Grand Cherokee or something, right?" Like they publish these sorts of things all the time. And some of them are pretty severe, some of them aren't. But it's basically the way security research people make a name for themselves, gain publicity, you know, like it's how they demonstrate that they actually know what they're doing and you might want to hire them for whatever it is that you know you hire a security research firm for. and they published this uh this white paper that was basically on or tech report what was probably a better term for it on how they took this humanoid robot by a company called Unitry which I guess is a Chinese company and they did a security analysis on it and one of the reasons that they did that is I guess normally like humanoid robots there aren't that many people who sell humanoid robots but the people who do I guess typically they're not sold as active secure pure actors, meaning they don't they just they just come with like I think the the default configuration if you bought one as a consumer of humanoid robots for some reason, you would just get one that didn't really have any security protocols or connectivity or anything. You just have like the firmware and some stuff built in and you were going to do whatever you're going to do with it. If you wanted to secure it, you'd secure it, whatever. But I take it these unitry ones, they have a security subsystem. It's supposed to all be encrypted. It's supposed to be secure. So that's like a different It's not common, I guess, for robots was what I gathered from this, >> which really that seems really bizarre. Brother, can we just stop on that? >> Look at all these engineers sitting at their neat little desks. It takes dirty work to keep a code base clean. Every day sickos are out there committing unreed code. And when that happens, llinters won't save you. You need someone like me. >> Let's go. >> Feature free scrumbag. Who you calling scrumbag? What's this slop you're trying to push? Unnecessary comments, global state, nested turnaries. >> Uh, my bad. I didn't even read the code yet. >> You disgust me. Step away from the keyboard. >> Just let me explain. >> Is that a mouse? He's merging a prod. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you push to GitHub canon will be used against you. You have the right to a debugger. But if you cannot afford one, a public stack trace will be made available to you. And one more code criminal off the streets where they belong. HR. >> Look, I didn't I know I didn't review any of the code, but I was going to have Code Rabbit review it from the start with oneclick fixes install enforcement. I don't need Merge Cop. I would never merge. I reviewed code, but a first pass with Code Rabbit always makes things go faster. >> Actually, you can try it too at code rabbit.ai. Next week on Merge Cop. >> The differer's out there and I'm going to be the one to deprecate them. >> How is there not security in a exceptionally high liability like zone here? Because this is this is something with arms and legs and possibly LLMs wandering around in your in your house around children around construction workers around whoever, you know, who knows? It's like how is this not like >> oh the the default when when they're selling it I think is like to not not these guys but like if it's in general you're selling it I think to some manufacturing facility who has a fleet of embedded engineers who >> put their own thing on top of it to do stuff for your >> like manufacturing this is like the chrome of robots >> right like it's not like it comes pre-programmed to then like I can build cardboard board boxes or something like that. Like it comes as like a I can move arms and legs, you have to plug in and then tell me what to do is my guess. I mean that's generally I feel like what you see for like a lot of embedded stuff here is like these companies have huge like embedded engineer teams who then write firmware and software and a bunch of stuff to make it work for your thing. Could be wrong. Yeah, that that was my understanding as well was that like normally, you know, because it's only, you know, previously it would be only a sophisticated consumer like a factory or or research team that would be buying one of these things. They don't come with any kind of like preconfigured this is exactly how it will operate. Literally, it's expected that you're going to go do that and so you would secure it and you would run whatever you wanted to run on it and those sorts of things. And so I imagine that this is the sort of thing we're going to start seeing more of now. what happened with this unitry thing because people are gonna with all the AI boom and all of this the money in it, people are going to be trying to sell more and more of these to more and more people like oh you just buy the humanoid robot and you show it the task and the the you know AI training system just like learns to do it and you don't have to be sophisticated right >> so I'm guessing yeah >> yeah this is basically like how IoT happened right is like before you would have like some hardware supplier who gives you like >> a set of cameras and then you would be like okay we've got our own guys to maybe like build something or do and then it's like oh sick you want to buy 50 cameras cool you just bought a botn net like you're about to get mined for your own your own hardware >> so does that mean I can just buy trash I can literally just go buy a robot I mean this is actually shocking to me cuz my understanding I just assumed that if I do buy one it's already going to be secure I didn't realize it would actually be like >> some raw like interface for someone to build something on top of. So that's kind of scary, but I'm also I kind of want to buy one. >> Well, that's what Unity is ostensibly trying to solve, right? Is they're saying like, "We will give you a humanoid robot that can do tasks." >> That's what I'm saying. So, my first thought when I read this article is like, >> if I hack someone else's robots, what would I do with them? You know, >> and what was your answer? >> Yeah, what was your answer? probably like the laundry like at my house and then you know clean my car like very very applicable very applicable things to my life like you know clean my car I don't know like >> so like everyone's robots are walking towards California and they all end up at Trash's house and they're all just doing like there's hundreds of robots like attempting to mow his lawn and they're fighting over the lawn mower or whatever. >> Yeah. Like it's time to do my fall garden. I need like something somebody to go pull out all the current plants, put the new ones in. And so I was like in my mind I was like this would be amazing if I just could hack everybody's robot, >> right? >> It's like like trash is the world's worst super villain. He like executes his master plan and the entire result is like a well- manicured lawn. It's like >> literally Dr. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. >> And when they're done I put them back. So >> all right. >> That's what I'm saying. >> That still makes you a bad guy. Like >> I gave it back though. >> I'm like 50% bad. 50% bad. Not 100%. >> Okay. Um, >> misdemeanor, not felony bad is what I'm talking about here. >> They're like a loitering kind of bad guy, not necessarily like manslaughter. >> Okay. Um, but by the way, Casey, we've massively interrupted you. Okay, >> that's all right. >> So, >> that's what the podcast That's why we do this. >> I know, but I want to hear more about the story. People are confused. What is the story? What happened? >> So, what happened was these Unitary robots come sort of with preconfigured software, right? It's got a security suite. It's got all this sort of stuff. got protocols that are set up for doing they they have various ones we've never heard of like I'd never heard of these protocols but they're for these kind of robotic applications MQTT uh and DDS these are things for sharing like the state of the robot or like the LAR sensing from the robot the camera images from the robot like all these things they have they have this stuff and so actually there was more like the headline was something like you know wormable exploit allows an attacker to take over the robots. And that was true. But believe it or not, it's that's not even possibly the worst of it. Like that is that is the worst of it, but there's even more worst of it, right? >> So the first problem is the security is is absolutely horrific. Like it it's got so >> it's got so many problems with it. Uh like for example, every robot uses the same private key for all the encryption. that private key is there's no initialization vector. So, and it's in um it's in electronic codebook mode. So, it's basically just like every block that you send is just flat encrypted with that private key. And the private key is the same for all robots. So, as soon as you ever can decrypt like one or even if you just want to replay attack, you can just send a block from your robot that you use to some other robot and it will just do that thing because it's the same all the time, right? No, it is vector >> and it was part of the password is literally unitry >> the name of the company >> the password >> it is it is literally the admin admin situate it's WordPress 999 going on in this robot >> they had a they had an LCG like they had a linear congreential generator uh step that is literally it turned out to be uh rand from the Linux like it was literally Linux rand CIB gibb's rand so the the parameters for the linear cond generator which is not like no one would ever use an LCG for a serious security thing as far as I know but like if you if you were going to use one you'd at least use different parameters than than RAND which everyone has access to the parameters. So there was that the wireless uh setup like the the actual thing where you tried to connect with the to to the to the uh wireless on the device you could actually just insert commands into that because they were unescaped and unchecked. So you could actually get root access just by putting commands into the login for wireless like like it was just like like I was just I was like what is happening? It was so nuts and all of that all of that. And then it also turns out that it's by default configured to just send all its telemetry data to server to hardcoded IP addresses in China while it's operating. Not not you don't have to exploit it for this. It just does that. >> That's for free. >> Can we say the I think the other thing that's crazy about it Well, first I have a question for Trash and then I have the the next thing. So Trash, I was wondering just like by any chance did you happen to work on the password management system for this? >> I don't know. But but but literally my first my other reaction was like, "Yeah, this is something I would do." Like I would totally just do that. I'd be so screwed. That would be just like with my robot one day and then it just starts like spanking. >> One password's good enough for me, bro. It's good enough for my robots, too. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Also, one little fun fact we did leave out of that little description as part of this whole thing. So, the security uh researchers who figured this all out, reported this to Unitry, who effectively just went dead silent on them. And so, how they responded was tweeting out the private keys to the robot on Twitter, formerly or X, formerly known as Twitter, formerly known as Twitter, the Everything Application. and it just they just tweeted out to two private keys and that's that. So it's just like out there like it's just for free and then they just never responded to anything until like what a week ago they made a LinkedIn post and just said hey we're addressing things >> and like that on LinkedIn >> assume that they're not really addressing anything. >> Yeah. >> The thing well there's I there's a bunch of things. Other thing that's crazy that I think we didn't make super clear is so this thing happens because of some like Bluetooth to wifi situation setting up the robot with this. >> So because this is in this like Bluetooth wireless thing if you infect one of them and then that robot gets next to another robot you can make it do the same exploit. It's literally the first computer virus. It affects the other humanoid robots by contact which is so funny. It is like literally like stand 6 feet away or else your Bluetooth get taken over. >> That's right. >> You need to social distance your robots and the social distance from each other so that they can't get infected. >> If they put on mask, are they okay? >> Yeah. >> Good. >> Sorry. Uh so the the interesting thing about that too is it's just like it's a good reminder a little bit of we're entering a world now where the ability to exploit the things that we have is at an all-time high because software quality is like at like rock rock rock bottom. And the types of things we are building are starting to be able to do stuff like move between physical locations themselves. Things like drones, things like humanoid robots, things like cars that have like the ability to control their steering wheel and brakes, like you know, self-driving. So, we're getting to the point where like the computers aren't contained anymore. Like Skynet is on the way, right? like the the things can come after you literally or after each other in ways that was not previously on the road map, right? And we're not quite there yet. Like there aren't enough things with this kind of autonomy yet, but we're pretty close, especially with self-driving cars uh and maybe with those like aerero drone things. There's enough of them now it's starting to feel like not fabulous, right? Um, and I don't I don't think I don't think there's a solution other than get your EMP devices ready, folks. >> So, I've had this kind of like theory about how the world will end and it's always been with robots and it's always been with robots and exploits because this is like my idea is that we're going to invent robots one day that can fold our laundry and then every person in a nation trashes laundry, >> right? Trash is laundry specifically. So then every person in a nation will have a robot that's just doing all the menial tasks. If you ever read um Way of the Kings uh Stormlight Archives, it'd be like the the parchment, right? There's parchment everywhere throughout the entire the entire uh you know, land. And then some place, China or whatever. They already have. It looks like I mean, honestly, this unit is so bad. It looks like it's intentional. That's even what the article says. It's like it's actually looks like it's intentional at this point that they have a back door that one day they can flip on and then robots go into like not nice mode >> and hurt people. And then it's just like you have a robot within 15 feet of a person all throughout a country. You could actually have an entire country theoretically in this universe disappear like every last person just like just disappear in a day in like 30 minutes which has just never really been feasible. And now we're starting like at least in my personal sense I just feel like I can see it actually possibly happening just maybe not intentionally just by accident with how bad things are programmed. >> They do. We're literally in a movie right now. That's literally what's happening. >> No, we're on a podcast track. >> Okay, >> guys. This is a podcast. >> It's >> whatever, guys. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Okay. I also like I I I don't I mean I'll be completely honest, but like I also just don't really understand I I know why people do it because they just want money, but like I actually don't understand from like a from a humanistic perspective. Like I there are things that I don't want to do in life but most of those we now already have reasonable automation for and like I just don't fundamentally mind doing my laundry. So if the question was you can have a wormable robot army that could take over the world or you could spend 15 minutes moving my clothes down to the washing machine which already does the laundry for me. I just have to put it in. I'm just like, what is wrong with people? Like, what? Can't you think of something better to do with your life than make this stuff? I just don't understand. Like, we're kind of at the point where the things that humans are doing, a lot of it is things that humans want to do or aren't that unhappy doing. It's not really like the days when we were doing backbreaking manual labor for like 12 or 14 hours a day. And it was like, oh my god, like being able to have something like an automated harvesting machine would be absolutely amazing and transform our lives in meaningful ways. Now it's like, hey, uh, yeah, you didn't have to actually go to the restaurant. The automated drone delivery picked up your like Chinese food carton and brought it to your door. It's like, okay, yeah, maybe that's worth doing if you can absolutely guarantee that like we don't have Terminator as the future. But if you can't, like I could go to the freaking store and get my own Chinese food. Like what the hell is wrong with you people? So at some level I feel like we're at this point where people are creating Skynet for no no actual reason. >> That That's pretty funny. >> The whole time I was listening to that, I was like, man, I would love not to I would love not to do laundry and pick up Chinese food. I was like, Casey hates me. Oh my lord. >> Like don't say anything. Don't say anything. Don't stay in my lane. >> I was like I was like I would like that. I would like that. I would like it. >> I'm just kidding. Like like realistically I would never like I don't do the smart home stuff. I don't do any of that. I mean I do like have like a car that has like the Wi-Fi stuff, but like I I don't want to I don't know ping an API across the world to like open my fridge or something. Like that doesn't make any sense. >> So B if I may like let me just make sure I got this right. So if the opening of Terminator was like the tank treads rolls over the human skull and it just crushes, right? So same >> classic scene >> and then like it's you kind of like over like you know with with some kind of like heavy weapon in your hands like pressed up against some like dirt bunker, right? and your your face is all like half bloodied and like you've seen you've seen all this stuff >> and you're there and you're like >> man war this this war against machines is brutal but it was worth it for those five years of Chinese food is that is that basically like how the opening the Terminator goes in your world drive >> will be funny is as as I'm in the bunker >> a robot comes up to me and like hands me some food and you're like and then I continue shooting my blaster >> Yeah. Yeah. He's like, "Not all robots got infected by the Bluetooth virus, man. Some are still delivering Chinese food." Well, >> but but the workound, did the article say the workound is like use some like isolated Wi-Fi like that like for now to like >> get rid of that? >> Yeah, I mean you'll do a number of things. >> But if anyone comes close to it in within Bluetooth range, right? >> I appreciate. >> I mean, the workound is run the exploit yourself and install better software. That's the That's the >> So, I'm I'm going to be I'm going to maybe put a little bit of water on your on your fiery speech there, Casey, in the sense that um >> I actually have a much more blackpilled uh viewpoint of success of software. >> Can you remind me which pills are which? >> So, black pill means like hopeless. >> It's kind of like a hopeless view of software success in the sense is like like even if you just look at Chad Jippity, Chad Jeity, if you if you got Sam Alman in front of Congress being like, I'm in it for the love of the game. We're curing cancer. We're taking it home, boys. We're going to make the world a better place. >> Fast forward two years later, they're like, "Dude, we got Sora Tik Tok and we're now doing erotica next." Right? Like it doesn't feel like software like goes to like these amazing heights. It always feels like it's just like what's the most disappointing level something can get to and it's going to get right below that and be slightly more disappointing. Like that's just what happens. And so it's like, "Oh, robots, they're coming. Yeah, in like 50 years they might be different, but today for the next 5 years they're just going to be really bad at everything they do. >> So, so the black pill here is basically like look there's not going to be Skynet because these things will just start tripping over themselves and they won't be able to shoot the gun that they'll try to shoot the gun and they'll just fly backwards and like >> it'll be more like the incompetence will save us. Our own incompetence will both cause the robot uprising and stop it. >> It'll be like this. He'll be like, "Oh man, dude, the robot uprising was going to happen." But then I forgot my password to my Google account cuz I lost my phone, so I like couldn't log in. And so then my robot couldn't turn back because I couldn't lo, man, >> it was so >> It does It does feel that way a little bit with the AI stuff. They're like, you don't understand. It's going to write all the code in the world and it's going to change everything. It's going to revolutionize the world. And then later on they're like, "Um, so we need you to watch these ads that we're going to insert in between the responses." And you're just like, "Wait, what? Like in what timeline did you need to do that if this stuff was that sophisticated?" They're like, "Well, we just need a little more time to get there, I guess." >> Yeah. So, anyways, I'm I'm a little bit blackpilled on the success of software. >> Okay, fair enough. Totally reasonable. That's actually not horrible, I guess. Uh, it's not as bad as a robot uprising for sure. >> Yeah, that that's true. >> Are there a lot of people that have these robots to begin with? >> I've got three. >> Oh, >> no. My laundry each other right now. Just huddled in a corner like I am legend. >> Like he just pants his camera. >> Yeah. How do you guys think I have time for this podcast, bro? I'm laundry maxing right now with my robot. It's a real concern. Okay. >> Yeah. >> They wrote this on the whiteboard behind me. Like, I'm not going to touch a whiteboard. A physical thing. Disgusting. I've got robots. >> I'm getting one. I'm getting one. >> So, what what happens? Let's Let's just pretend robots. >> I like the idea that like the the AI bro like uh bragging list keeps getting like reduced and stacked to like, yo, man, if you're folding your shirts yourself, you're never going to get ahead in this world. Wait, wait. How did we go from the that it'll be shipping like the Sigma chat edits and it's like and the guy's like folding your laundry takes 15 minutes every day. I don't do that. So, you know what that means? 15 \* 7 that's 105 105 minutes a week times 50 >> 5 217 minutes a year that I have that you don't have. You got to keep up with me. >> Was that an accurate number there? Was that 5,000 number accurate? >> I don't know, trash. I just was >> I believed you. I was like, "Oh my god, his math is so hard right now." >> Trash. He said 105 \* 50. >> What's 50\* Okay, never mind. Just we just go on. Just go on. >> Are you still doing math in your head? We have calculators for that. All the math I didn't do in my head. I don't even know how much time I saved. My calculator does. So, I'm going to run my calculator and after it's done telling me how much time I saved, I'm going to yell at you about it. >> Yeah. Shut up, boomer. in in this house. Calculators do math. >> Alexa, what's 50 times whatever number he said? >> Go. I'm going to go do >> ordering 12,000 bananas. No. No. Alexa, stop. Stop. Stop. >> Hey, Siri. Get everybody's phone. >> That's Oh, man. Okay. So, let's just pretend for a second then all these things actually end up coming true and we kind of start living more and more towards the bro A AI bro world where you're just letting AIs write all of your code. You got AI folding all of your laundry. >> Yeah. >> What are you going to what are you going to actually do in life? >> Yeah. I always want to ask the eyebrows that. Yeah. >> So, like when I have AI write my code, I have to do code review. But so, do we have to start doing like laundry review with AI? Do I have to go back and make sure before we merge it into my into my drawers. I'm like, "All right, time to go check it out." I got to get GitHub laundry hub laundry. Do you actually fold Do you fold your shirts? Do you actually fold your shirts when you This is what I do. Let me show you. >> Yeah, let's see. Trash. >> I have like laundry behind me. That's This is my That's why I need a robot. >> Don't worry, we can see it. >> You go like this and then I just go like that and then I just roll it up. >> You're a roller full time. Full time roller. And then I just have like a whole stack of them just like rolled like scrolls in a library. >> Libraries don't have scrolls trash. Like maybe like a thousand years ago scrolls. >> Well, they they used to. Okay. They used to go to a good library. They've got scrolls. >> What kind of library crappy municipal library? >> You go to some >> I go to the British Royal Library and I read scrolls cuz I want the actual truth. >> If it's not on reading books, >> you're not living life. All right. If you read a book that's printed on a printing press, you're just reading something that was written by someone who read a scroll at some point. I was regurgitating that to you. Probably with a bunch of lies from the establishment baked into it. >> Yeah, >> scrolls only. >> Everything from scrolls. Change my mind. >> They've That's like uh if you think software that's lasted a long time is more likely to keep being here tomorrow. Scrolls that have been here a long time are more likely to be relevant tomorrow, too. So, it's kind of big brain strategy that trash only reads scrolls. I respect that trash. >> That's right. >> Yeah, >> only scrolls. >> Um, so question. Can we try to get Claude Fold as a sponsor to this like the first like laundry based like like largem large laundry model? Can we get the first large laundry model provider to like sponsor this podcast where we've been talking so positively about laundry? Uh cuz I feel like that's >> that's where the money's going to be next, right? Like none of this like video generation or whatever it is. That's like that's that's not interesting. It's it's laundry, baby. Everyone's got it. Everyone needs to fold it. >> It's true. True. Not everyone has to write code, but everyone has to fold laundry. >> Prime asked a real question. So, let's consider this. Let's try to Let's try to add some humanity back to this podcast. >> I'm ready. >> He asked a real question, which was like, >> what do you do? >> And I do wonder this time. It's like, what do you want to do? Especially when you're talking about, and you guys can can explain this to me, too. It's like, look, you guys were generating AI music. Like, music is something that humans are supposed to do for themselves, you know? It's like part of like the human experience is to like make music and like sing and like play an instrument. And like a qu a good question is like it feels kind of dehumanizing to have an AI do it. Whether you like the song that comes out of it or not, it's like it feels a bit soulless. Comments. No, I agree with that. >> I agree with that. >> Okay, Casey, let me hit you with something just for a quick second. >> Hit me up. >> Uh, when you generate AI music, you know what comes out? >> People's music. >> Absolutely. >> Stolen music. Basically, >> baby powdercovered slappers. Okay, we're talking about some of the finest music in the industry today. >> You know, and you know why? >> Because modern music is soulless. Okay, and they can just regurgitate that stuff. So he's like, "All right, you got four chords and and and just a snare drum. We got music. Okay, throw a little female vocals on it. >> Boom." >> I think so. That might be that that would be something I'd point out, right? >> Oh, go ahead. Sorry, Casey. >> That would be something to point out. It's like >> it's happening at the worst time because basically what we're doing is we're pouring gasoline on a bad fire, right? It's like we already kind of had this place where like modern music distribution was increasingly becoming about like you know how do you just generate another version of the latest random pop song and uh and like now it's like literally generate not just generate by having some producers in a room who monkey with the like thing but now it's like we just need an AI that can generate that song again like you know did you you know did you ingest all the Taylor Swift songs just put out another one of those if you could uh and we don't even you know we're not even going to have like people actually work on it anymore and and I do think like that's kind of I don't know that's really unfortunate because I feel like we don't want to accelerate that trend but we are sort of or maybe maybe trash if you're right what will happen is the opposite everyone in the world will just pump that stuff out and humans will become very bored of it and then the actual value of music created by actual people will go up again that could happen too I guess I don't I mean, all I do is listen to music from 20 years ago. Plus, I don't even listen to anything in this. >> Except for you loved French Kiss and AI. Okay. That was one of the That was a bopper. >> That is a good song. Um, the thing I would say for it though is >> that I think I don't know what the answer is to this, but I at least see like a parallel in that >> uh computers are way better at chess than humans are. But like the a mildly good com computer chess engine can beat Magnus Carlson is my understanding. I'm sorry Magnus if you're out there listening to this podcast and that's not true. I take it back. Uh but definitely the best chess engines can still beat uh Magnus Carlson, right? And but like chess is more popular than ever, >> right? Like it's literally more popular. >> The most popular it's ever been. >> No, it's by far the most popular it's ever been. Like you can look watch chess streams and they have like these like internet chess tournaments and there's all this which was never possible for me. >> That's fair. Yeah. >> Yeah. So it it's just it's at least not like a you know sure thing that just cuz a computer can do something better than people that then we're like done doing it as humans. Like we still like playing chess. We still like watching people play chess. We still like learning chess and learning it for ourselves. even though like I could just look at Stockfish every move and then I would play a perfect game, but that that's not like fun or enjoyable and there's no struggle or anything like that. So, I I think like maybe AI could be like for me it would be sick like as someone who only can play drums. If I was playing more drums, it would be sweet to make the rest of the pieces of a song and have AI play it and play drums along with it. Whereas I would never be able to like commission a bass player, a guitar player, and you know, like it would be cooler to be part of a band, but like trash keeps uh not responding to my DMs. So that's like that's the best I can, >> dude. Next time, wait, what? Have we got a whole band here? I can play keyboards. What have we got? >> Play bass and guitar. I can play bass and guitar, >> dude. We've got a band, man. We can play. >> I didn't say next time. >> I can play them. >> There's a band. >> It would be pretty sweet to play some blues. Like if we just got down and and did some blue songs. Got clankers taking our jobs. >> A lot of talent. >> I think you're playing guitar. >> Live in person stage one time at a place. And we will close it with a live song. Yeah, >> that's I could play. I could play. >> TJ's always TJ has the same uh same desire that every pretty much high school boy has at some point, which is to be a famous musician. So, if TJ could be on like on stage right now, >> so close, guys. My band Emergency Exits. We were so close. >> We almost made it. Okay. Aka Sounds of Silver. We could never decide. Broke up the band after the name. It's a tough story, but well, you know, it's what it is what it is. I did music for like three years touring and then after >> yeah, >> I'm not going to tell you anything besides that. But >> we can find it out. Trash. >> Yeah, we're going to find it out. Please do not broadcast it. >> Oh, no. >> What? >> No, it was fun. I did like a warp tour and some other stuff. It was pretty fun. I was gonna say you were in an emo band and now that you said you did warp tour, dude, I was just like >> I was 100% emo band. I had like I had like I had like my face was all pierced up. I had like the long hair like that. >> Dude, the standup band is >> Are you trolling? >> It's happening. >> No. >> Oh my trash. Okay, you have to send us some stuff offline. I promise. >> My previous life. We won't we won't just want to hear it. >> No trash. It is not your previous life. It's your current life cuz we are starting this band. Awful, but it's going to be great. >> No way. >> I don't know why I even broadcasted that information. >> That's crazy that you like I'm like real time regretting everything right now. I like almost want to hang up. I want to hang up. I hate it. >> Which one? >> That realization that you just said that out loud or when you found out you were an Apple shill live on the podcast. >> I I find out a lot of things about myself on this podcast. It's a soulsearching experience. >> Yeah, I'm pretty glad that we have a future that is not very great and I learned that trash is a musician today. I'm very excited about this. We should do a band. >> A bad one. >> I I actually kind of liked what what Tee just said. I feel like that's a pretty optimistic way of looking at it and very very like fitting with Te's personality which was just like look maybe we're going to end up with a lot of things being like chess but who cares cuz like humans can just do it. We're gonna do it anyway. >> We are gonna >> unless the machines get wormable exploits and kill us all. >> Yeah, that one. >> True. >> That is the worry. I >> not so good. But >> I don't know if you guys ever >> I don't know if you ever feel this way. Like I sometimes feel like I have a German Shepherd at home. She's like 60 lbs. She's not huge, but I'm like she like plays next to my little kids and I think like holy cow. Like that's kind of crazy. It's crazy that we like spent a lot of time fixing all of the bugs in the dog coding. So now doggy very nice like >> you know and my kids can jump on this dog and like pull her ears and everything and she licks them instead of biting their face off and you're like that's really cool. I'm glad that I have German Shepherd V65,000. [Laughter] >> Yes. Um, but it's like are people I this makes like this article and just like thinking about it literally makes me think like maybe I don't want robot version 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 like in my house. You know what I'm saying? Like especially for my kids. It that's like freaky stuff, dude. It's kind of scary. >> Yes. >> Even if it doesn't get exploited, it's just like somebody wrote some bad code and it like steps down when it should have stepped over. And it's like humans are soft and squishy and robots are big and heavy, >> right? There's like a there's like, you know, you're you're watching the change log every week and and you see these like really disturbing things. It's like, "Oh, uh yeah, patch uh resolved the problem where the robot would be standing over your bed holding a knife at night. uh it was just misrecognizing that as tomatoes that it might need to chop and uh that were you know so uh sorry for everyone who got spooked out by that but don't worry we've like uh we've hot fixed that one should be rolling out uh any day now yeah uh one thing we would suggest for the next two nights before it uh updates everywhere is just keep your bedroom doors closed preferably locked if they have the kind of handle uh that you can push down on and we'll just leave it at that >> yeah just don't dress in red you won't be mistaken by Yeah, exactly. If you have any small round red children, we would suggest keeping them out of the house. >> Yeah, >> that is so that's such a good skit. Someone has to make that. >> I also think what's hilarious for this like unitry one is it's like the patch notes still haven't dropped. The LinkedIn thing that they posted was like, >> "Hey, we we we are about to roll out a patch that fixes most of these issues." If I recall, that was like the exact wording from the LinkedIn post, which is insane cuz it's like what do you mean one about to roll out? It's not >> we haven't rolled out the fix for this and number two, what do you mean most of the issues like >> Yeah. >> Like like actual questions like for like these robots. >> Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. >> Sorry. Sorry. Just for TJ. Exactly. from LinkedIn. We immediately began addressing these concerns and have now completed the majority of the fixes. >> Majority. >> Yeah, that means over 50% by the way. That's what majority means. Just so we're like 51% of the fixes. We've got those. >> React within 10 ft of each other now. Like >> is there actual like uh consumers of this outside of like researchers just trying to break it and stuff? Like I I feel like I just don't know anybody. >> It's it's pain to order. Like I could just go on there and order one right now. >> How much is a robot? >> 900. >> How much? >> Oh my god. >> $57,900 for a G1 robot. >> So there's like one though. Trash was that a police department bought one of these for like the dog thing to test it out. Like they have a dog version. >> Oh, the dog. I seen the dog one. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> bro. The government's going to get these and then what's going to happen then? can like leak everything inside of the like it can go inside of the police department and then or can go wherever like the government owns it and it's like oh we just accidentally hacked the entire police department or like we sent all of the audio visual data to our servers cuz like they have cameras and microphones and they can >> they're going to find trash's arrest record for when he trashed the hotel room. That's where he got the name trash probably when he was on tour with his band that we're not supposed to know about. >> The leaky faucets. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> The wet band name, bro. >> That could be our band name. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. Can we put the Grammy awardwinning as part of the band title? >> Like the Grammy awardwinning standup band. >> My grandma loved when I was in a band. So that's a Grammy award-winning band. >> You don't have to use the term Grammy. We can just say awardw winning band because TJ, you just won an award. You have a trophy. I have a trophy. I got a Netflix trophy. >> Love it. Love it. >> I would have hacked a loser. >> I got one right here. >> Love it. >> Right here. >> Award-winning open source developer. >> Look at that. >> Look at that trash. Don't tell me that ain't award-winning. Dang. Dang. Trash. >> Go break my tooth. I don't want >> What age group were you guys were you playing in? >> This is for uh breaking legs, buddy. Okay. Breaking legs award. >> Nice. >> 14 plus breaking legs award. >> That's it. I'm scared of the robots. I would be worried, >> but I do kind of want to order. >> I mean, what else is there to say? >> There's not. >> We said it all. >> We said it all. >> Hopefully I'm dead before this apocalypse happens. >> I'm glad I'm old. I'm actually You're eating Doritos, bro. >> Hey, man. I'm working out. All right. Okay. >> That counteracts what Doritos do. I I switched to pirate booty today. So >> just today >> healthconscious reasons. >> Yeah. Well, I went to I went to Disneyland with my kids, so I bought like a huge box of these and then now they're in my office. So I'm just going to town. I can't stop myself. >> I can't stop myself. Sorry, kids. I'm eating your snacks. >> Where did Prime go? >> I just had to walk away for a second. I just can't even believe what I'm saying right now. >> You literally that that was like you couldn't take it. You couldn't take the pirate booty box. I just can't take the fact that he has a full full ass pirate booty box next to his next to his desk. And then he also pulled up like multiple rapper wrappers that are empty. >> And he want me to do hungry. Eat some protein is what he wants you to do. >> I'm hungry. I ate a bagel. I had lots of protein in it. Okay. >> Okay. Bagels are not a good source of pro. Did you >> I'm going to I'm gonna I'm going eat like a steak or something later. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna work out today, too. I'm gonna work out again. >> Some eggs. >> Yeah, I know. I'm going to work out again. >> I believe in you. >> I'm in. Can I say something that's not that that doesn't hurt your feelings? Hopefully. >> Can't hurt my feelings, >> Crash. I really like it when you have glasses on. >> Glasses. I know you had them on. You had them on your head for the first half of this podcast. >> I have my contacts in right now. >> I know. When you wear glasses, you just you just look like trash. Now that you don't have your glasses in, it's like I don't even know who you are. See, like that's trash. >> I can't I got contacts on. It hurts. Double vision. Is that how it works? Do you see two things now? >> I don't know. I just can't see nothing. You want me You want Do you want me to rip out my I'll rip my contacts out right now. Put them on. >> No, don't do it. Don't get the jelly in your eyeballs, Trash. >> Yeah. Those of you who are just joining us missed the part before the stream where I asked why Trash wasn't wearing glasses and he was like, "I don't want to get jelly in my eyeballs." Was the explanation. I was like, "What?" And he's like, "Well, I'm eating this bagel with jelly on it." And I'm like, so I guess he couldn't he you couldn't eat it without it coming up into your face like this. >> You don't understand. When you eat the bagel, you get jelly slime on your fingies and it's not going to come off with just the napkins. So you got to wash your hands. So now I got jelly slime in my eyeballs now. Thank you very much. >> True. >> Wait, hold on. How did you get in your eyeballs though? Like explain because >> you you said all the steps and none of it involved putting your hands in your eyes. You're like, >> "Why would the glasses glasses prevent that?" The glasses would prevent that. >> So, I took the contact off. To get the contact out of my eye, I got to squeeze my eyeball with two fingers and pull it off. >> And if there's jelly on these little thingies, >> that makes sense. Try >> going to get on my eye. It's a simple concept. 50 times 105. Okay. >> Yes. >> You [ \_\_ ] 12 1250, right? Is that the answer? 50, >> dude. Just 100 times 50. You can do that. You at least know the major. >> I don't want to do it. I'm spoiled by >> Are you still getting jelly all over your contact lenses and up in your eyeballs because you don't have an AI to remove your contact lenses for you? Well, I do. And I can see without having a giant purple haze over my eyes because I got jelly all up in there. And that's why I'm making bank. Every day you spend seven seconds taking out your glasses. >> It's a real problem. >> Wait a minute for your AI robot to do this for you. But you don't have to lift a hand. >> Yeah. >> No more jelly for you. The robot's all jellied up now. >> It's a real problem. Guys don't get >> jelly robot. >> Wait till you get jelly in your eye. See how you feel. >> I'm I trash. It makes sense to me. I'm with you on this one. I'm with you. I am right. I'm always right. >> All right. Well, thank you everybody for joining us on this amazing standup today. We have with us as always Tee DV. I just want to code. We have Trash Dev Jelly Jelly in the eyeballs and of course Casey the actual engineer. Mirator Tori. Uh Casey, we can find you at computerenhance.com. If you actually want to learn how computers work, you should probably check that out and stop being such an idiot instead being an amazing engineer. True. Uh trash. I don't know what Trash has to offer other than Do you got any like do you want to like or something? What do you do? >> I'm just here for the LOLs everybody. >> Hey, check out his check out his ex.com trash\_dev with two H's. That's the best place to find old Reddit memes. >> I need I need to change my name. That's what I need to do. >> Drew, >> what are you going to change your name to? >> Trash with three H's. >> Oh yeah, Triple H. >> You know what I'm saying? Triple H trash. >> Work for Vin Diesel. >> You know what I'm saying? Of course, Tee DV, the magnificent coder among us who also dresses in Miami. Nice. >> I do. I try. I try to represent for the pod. >> Stylish. >> It is pretty nice. >> Mhm. Thank you. Thanks. >> And so today, that was the standup the name. >> I don't have anything I don't have like a run-on sense I can do again. >> Boot up the day. Five errors on my screen. Terminal coffee. 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