Beeper’s Back Baby! - DTNSB 5062  ## Metadata - Author: [[Daily Tech News Show]] - Full Title: Beeper’s Back Baby! - DTNSB 5062 - Category: #podcasts - URL: https://share.snipd.com/episode/dcf30dae-2297-4353-9972-9161193e3e04 ## Document Notes ## Highlights - **Beeper's New Messaging Strategy** - Beeper relaunched its cross-service messaging app focusing on improved security and premium features. - Despite many messaging platforms, interest in unified chat apps like Beeper seems to be waning for some users. Transcript: Jason Howell Jason Howell. I'm Point White Dowell. Let's start with what you need to know with a big story. I just, when I see Beeper, I can't help but want to like go full on alliterative, you know, with it. No, that's what you're supposed to do. Beeper is relaunching its all-in cross-service messaging app with an improved tech stack that's aimed at improving security, also adding some premium features, which we'll talk About on the security front. Beeper will now offer direct end-to encrypted connections for platforms that support it. So this essentially means that Beeper won't have to rely on what it's very known for, having its cloud infrastructure relaying messages. This is gonna keep messages and that data associated with those messages on device and encrypted via the messaging platforms approach. Beeper improved its free tier. It now allows for up to 12 accounts, which I think that's pretty generous. Beeper also launched the new plus subscription tier. That's with some perks like message scheduling, incognito mode, voice note transcription, also the ability to manage up to 10 accounts. And that does include up to three accounts from any single service. So you can kind of mix and match that way. And then the Beeper plus plus tier, and yes, you heard that right. It's called Plus Plus, will offer unlimited access to multiple accounts per chat service. So it's kind of like the entire meal, unlimited, all you can eat, costs $49.99 per month. And Beeper is attempting to keep the services themselves happy and friendly to the work that they're doing. And to that end, they plan to relay ads shown in apps like Telegram as one example. So Telegram, if you're using the app, you might be served an ad. Well, in Beeper experience, if you're using Telegram, apparently those ads are going to come into the Beeper experience somehow. I don't know how exactly they're going to tackle that but that way the impressions aren't lost and it keeps telegram happy with what beeper is doing and all of this is pretty appropriate Because this comes after the company was bought by automatic they're the owner of wordpress.com uh that happened last year and you know kind of in the shadow of what beepeper has done In the past, which is I'll try to work to allow Android users to chat with Apple iMessage users that involved servers in the cloud or rather Mac minis running iMessage in the cloud. Apple had some restrictions to make that impossible. And since then, Apple's rolled out, of course, the expansive RCS capabilities. So that kind of reduced the need for such a specialized service. So I don't know. We've talked a lot about Beeper on Android Faithful over the years. They've been very applicable to the conversation around messaging. What do you think of the new offering? Yeah, where do you stand on this? Do you need a multi-chat service at this point? Huyen Tue Dao I don't think, I mean, so that's the thing though. I used to love multi-chat services. I use, is it Pigeon? Pigeon, yeah, that was one of them. Pigeon back in the day. And I think there was a couple others. And so it's so fun. Jason Howell Yeah, Trillian was the one that I used. I did use Trillian too. Huyen Tue Dao I love Trillian actually. And it's so funny because I think those were so essential back in the day. And yet, don't know now in 2025, I did try using Beeper and I don't know if my using use habits have changed, but I, I found myself needing it less, but I'm actually really impressed by the Beeper tech stack. And so I am not one, I just, the jokes about all the, the, the cavalcade of chat apps that have come and gone in the last however many 20 years now, or like maybe even longer than that. Oh my gosh. So they're hard things to build. And the fact that they did this, keeping everything on device more or less and having end-to encryptions and supporting up to how many ever services actually feels like very impressive To me. I mean, it sounds like the team was pretty big at 30 plus combined. And so to offer all of these different services across several different clients is, is pretty, is, is a pretty tough job, technically speaking. So I give them a lot of, a lot of props for that. I mean, like that's probably, that's one of the reasons why, you know, we tend to rely on cloud services a lot, uh, in, in software is just because a lot of the business, the business logic, We call it a lot of like the actual work, it's easy to kind of combine it in one place so that you have a consistent experience. You don't have to write the same logic over and over again, but they've taken the burden on themselves to create a, you know, like end in encrypted and that it keeps it on device. So I think that's, it's, it's, I love that because so often it's easy to be like, well, this is going to be really hard. It's going to take a lot of, it's going to be a lot of support. It's going to be a lot of like person power. So I actually congratulate them. I feel like that's one thing that Beeper always, and through the whole iOS, iMessage saga, they, they just, they just seem very willing to do the work and make something happen. And so I think if anything, especially as an engineer, I appreciate the chutzpah, the moxie that it takes to do this. Jason Howell They don't seem to have a problem picking the scab. No, they don't. Let's not pick away the scab. Huyen Tue Dao So what's fascinating to me also is the idea that, hey, we actually want to play nice. So because Telegram is open source, I wonder to what extent they looked at the open source code, saw where like the ad relay, the relay, the ads were happening. And they kind of ported that over to clients. And I kind of love that because that's I it's hard to describe, again, the amount of effort and care it would take to do just that. Jason Howell But that's like I feel like the one thing that sounds like it would be really challenging it's challenging when I read that I was like how like I don't we don't normally hear of apps like This relaying the ads like yeah and presumably they don't get they're not getting a cut of course because they're telegrams I would yeah that was a question that I had for sure I mean I Wouldn't think so because you know they're basically pulling the users out of the apps. If they truly want those services to be okay with what they're doing, then I guess they wouldn't suddenly say, you know, we could take a piece of a portion of the pie. Huyen Tue Dao We just want to exist. We just want to provide this experience. We're going to play ball with whatever y'all need to do to make money. We're not going to like that. Just and that's like, I think that's really cool. I don't know. Like it feels like mission Bieber's mission is just we want to do this thing. We want to make chat easier for everyone. And we're going to do whatever it takes. That's just what it communicates to me. I'm maybe I'm just being like extra geeky about it because I'm a because I'm a developer. But I think that is so interesting. And of course, the elephant in the room is my message. And it seems like I don't... Less necessary now, right? Yeah. But it seems like they're trying to do it in a way that doesn't get them in trouble. Like last time, just like, hey... Jason Howell Because they keep getting into trouble. And I think what I appreciate about Beeper is that the multiple times that they've tried and then ([Time 0:02:40](https://share.snipd.com/snip/6845c310-3dec-4b7a-8bb8-e94a8c4ba227)) - **Beeper Keeps Platforms Happy** - Beeper tries to keep messaging platforms happy by relaying ads from apps like Telegram. - This preserves impressions and respects platform models without monetizing ads themselves. Transcript: Huyen Tue Dao So because Telegram is open source, I wonder to what extent they looked at the open source code, saw where like the ad relay, the relay, the ads were happening. And they kind of ported that over to clients. And I kind of love that because that's I it's hard to describe, again, the amount of effort and care it would take to do just that. Jason Howell But that's like I feel like the one thing that sounds like it would be really challenging it's challenging when I read that I was like how like I don't we don't normally hear of apps like This relaying the ads like yeah and presumably they don't get they're not getting a cut of course because they're telegrams I would yeah that was a question that I had for sure I mean I Wouldn't think so because you know they're basically pulling the users out of the apps. If they truly want those services to be okay with what they're doing, then I guess they wouldn't suddenly say, you know, we could take a piece of a portion of the pie. Huyen Tue Dao We just want to exist. We just want to provide this experience. We're going to play ball with whatever y'all need to do to make money. ([Time 0:07:58](https://share.snipd.com/snip/7255ec97-c62b-4ce6-9615-efd7a8db7668)) - **Pixel Fold's Dust Protection Edge** - Google's Pixel Fold may be the first dust-protected foldable with IP68 rating. - This advancement would mark a significant hardware milestone that distinguishes it from competitors like Samsung. Transcript: Speaker 4 Part, and if it doesn't fit, send it back. Simple as that. Look, DIY fixes can be major. Doesn't matter if it's just maintenance or a major mod. You got it, especially when things are guaranteed to fit. So when you dive into your next car project, start with eBay. All the parts you need at prices you'll love. Guaranteed to fit every time. EBay. Things people love. Jason Howell Asking questions doesn't make one a difficult patient. It makes you an advocate for you. Life can be hard enough. Speaker 4 So what do you do when you receive a medical diagnosis that changes everything? Jason Howell How do you navigate feeling like you have to fight to be heard when it comes to your health? These are big, scary questions, and there's no one-size answer. That's why BetterHelp teamed up with host and licensed therapist Hesu Joe to create Mind If We Talk, a new podcast that looks at life's difficult moments through the lens of therapy. On the latest episode, Hesu sits down with comedian Ryan Sickler to talk about. Huyen Tue Dao Every idea starts with a problem. Warby Parker's was simple. Glasses are too expensive. So they set out to change that. By designing glasses in-house and selling directly to customers, they're able to offer prescription eyewear that's expertly crafted and unexpectedly affordable. Warby Parker glasses are made from premium materials like impact-resistant polycarbonate and custom acetate. And they start at just $95, including And remember, your happiness matters. Stop by a Warby Parker store near you. Out here, it's not only the amazing views, but the way time stretches out a little longer. How laughter bellows louder among friends, and how the breeze hits just right at the summit. With AllTrails, you can discover and experience the best of nature, with over 450,000 trails worldwide and navigation right at your fingertips. Find your outside with AllTrails. Download the free app today find your next outdoor adventure. Dr. Niki Hey, it's Maya and Sim from the Girls That Invest podcast. If you are an IT or security pro, you know managing devices, identities, and applications can feel overwhelming and honestly risky. That's where Trellica by 1Password comes in. It helps conquer SaaS, sprawl, and shadow IT by discovering every app your team uses, managed or not. With pre-built app profiles, you can assess risk, manage access, and even optimize your software spend. Plus, it simplifies onboarding, offboarding, and compliance, all while cutting costs by eliminating unused licenses. Take the first step to better security for your team. Learn more at 1password.com/special offer. Jason Howell There's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. All right. Huyen Tue Dao Well, Google officially announced its next Pixel hardware event for August 20th. So the Pixel 10 series, along with Pixel Watch 4, and possibly the new Pixel Buds are expected at the event, which takes place in New York. The phones are expected to be powered by the new Tensor G5 chips. And another rumor-making in the rounds is the possibility that the new Pixel Fold will be the first foldable rated for dust protection with an IP68 rating. There are also credible rumors pointing to a new line of magnetic Qi2 charging technology for the Pixel 9, codenamed Pixel Snap. Pixel Snap. Snap, snap. Jason Howell IP68 on a foldable. That's pretty big news. Pixel hardware, it is coming from Google and it is premium hardware, but I think there's an ongoing perception that it still kind of lags behind in some ways behind the Samsung Galaxy S Ultras and all that kind of stuff. But to be able to say our foldable is the one that's, you know, managed to solve the dust protection issue that foldables have would be a big deal for Google. So props if that happens. Huyen Tue Dao Absolutely. I was really excited. It's weird because I think we hear about the specs leaking just for months and months at a time. ([Time 0:14:23](https://share.snipd.com/snip/6b3ceda3-5355-4347-9a4e-e00381e9d3a3)) - **Anthropic Sued Over AI Training Data** - Anthropic faces a class action lawsuit over allegedly using pirated copyrighted books to train AI. - This legal challenge poses potential billions in damages and questions AI training ethics. Transcript: Jason Howell Its AI system. This follows ALSEP's original ruling that some of the company's use of legally obtained, i.e. Bought, copyrighted content actually constituted fair use. Anthropic's possible use of up to 7 million books downloaded from pirate sites could make the company liable for damages. We're talking the tune of around billions of dollars if the case against them is successful. ([Time 0:19:35](https://share.snipd.com/snip/906574f3-6861-4ec6-b4bc-9270c1e93512)) - **Meta Execs Settle Cambridge Lawsuit** - Former Meta executives reached a settlement to resolve an $8 billion privacy violation lawsuit from the Cambridge Analytica scandal. - The settlement likely prevented high-profile testimonies but leaves details undisclosed. Transcript: Huyen Tue Dao And former executives have reached an agreement to settle an $8 billion shareholder lawsuit stemming from privacy violations related to the Facebook Cambridge analytical scandal. Sorry, analytical scandal from 2018. The settlement happened shortly before Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, Mark Anderson, Sheryl Sandberg and Desmond Hellman were set to testify about their knowledge of the details related To the case. While financial details of the settlement have not been revealed publicly, it's likely the payout was less than the $8 billion originally asked for. Jason Howell Yeah, this is kind of crazy because it's been a long time coming. And literally on the day that I think Marc Andreessen was set to take the stand. Then I think the next week it was going to be Zuckerberg and Peter Thiel and all these major, major names in both technology and whether we like it or not politics right now were set to essentially Put their, you know, put their voices on the record about this scandal. Poof, it all goes away because of massive amounts of settlement money. What do you know? Nothing surprises me. ([Time 0:20:06](https://share.snipd.com/snip/3543cd2c-d7e6-4e51-be60-6dbade3a9537)) - **Roblox Tightens Chat Security** - Roblox now requires age verification via facial scan or government ID for users over 13. - Verified users get unfiltered chats and new social party features, enhancing safety and experience. Transcript: Jason Howell Yeah. Anyways, Roblox is tightening its chat security by requiring Persona's age verification using facial scanning, or you could provide a government ID. This is all applies to users over 13 years old. Without that proof, teens will have their messages filtered and monitored for harmful conduct. With Proof will have an unfiltered chat experience along with gaining access to a reasonably new feature that I only just learned about, a party social feature that basically allows Up to six players to group up across the platform and play together. So that's something that'll be reserved for those who have the unfiltered experience, which comes with that age verification. So more and more, we're just going to continue, I imagine, hearing more and more from services, be it chat services, social services, gaming services, ([Time 0:21:26](https://share.snipd.com/snip/d050b3e1-9c4d-4d86-bbbd-ff5347f12f89)) - **Adobe Firefly Adds AI Sound Design** - Adobe Firefly added generative AI to create realistic sound effects from voice or text prompts. - This integrates sound design more closely with visual content editing workflows. Transcript: Huyen Tue Dao Well, Adobe introduced new generative AI features within its Firefly suite that allow users to create realistic sound effects from voice prompts or text instructions. Users can synchronize the sound with visual content in a timeline interface. The Firefly update also offers support for composition referencing and a wide range of style presets. Jason Howell So when I'm playing around with Adobe, I can go and it will turn it into like laser sounds and stuff. Laser sounds like, yeah, laser fire, yes. ([Time 0:22:24](https://share.snipd.com/snip/be653db6-1bbd-4157-a854-a08577b86d85)) - **NIH Reinstates Sensitive Grants** - NIH is reinstating politically sensitive grants after court orders halted earlier terminations. - This represents a cautious swing back towards supporting previously cut scientific research projects. Transcript: Jason Howell Right. Every month we've been checking in with Dr. Nikki on what's been happening with U.S. Science funding. And today we have a quick update and a brewing debate over animal models. Dr. Speaker 4 Nikki, welcome back to our monthly check-in. Dr. Niki Hello, Tom. We are indeed back. We have some news, but not as much as usual, which is kind of a good thing. Speaker 4 I don't remember if I mentioned it in one of our updates, but I have been expecting that as the year went on, the pace might slow down and it seems like that might be happening. What do we have to pay attention to this month? Dr. Niki I'm very glad that you're correct because as much as I love being on the show, I don't love covering disastrous. Speaker 4 Yeah, we've got MOAs and blind mice to talk about, right? Much more fun. Dr. Niki Well, the first thing I want to talk about is kind of an overall, because I didn't want to do case by case, but we, in the previous months, we talked about how NIH ([Time 0:24:17](https://share.snipd.com/snip/9c2b8802-0ef2-4f3a-b3a2-c0e39d3c6461)) - **NIH Advisory Council Changes** - NIH dismisses advisory council members critical of the current administration, replacing them with vetted candidates. - This politicizes grant funding decisions, influencing which research gets supported. Transcript: Dr. Niki That do not line up with the current administration's views. So these people are specifically the ones that make the final decisions on NIH grant funding. So still following within the trend of making grant funding more what they want it to be. And the journal Nature reported on this and found out that the replacement candidates are having their social media presences screened for negative views on the current administration. So they are packing the court. Speaker 4 This is the administration putting people in place to make decisions that they approve of, basically, for grants going forward versus the grants that have already been in the works. ([Time 0:26:18](https://share.snipd.com/snip/23433bd7-3975-4e8a-8264-f223a9a714b6)) - **Federal Science Funding Cuts Softened** - Proposed federal science funding cuts have been reduced after Senate and House revisions. - Though cuts remain large, they reflect negotiation rather than pure austerity, sparing some agencies significant losses. Transcript: Dr. Niki Agencies and others. Speaker 4 Yeah, this is the rescission thing where they're saying we can save this money, but we need Congress to approve us to not spend it. Dr. Niki Exactly. So that went through Senate. Senate rejected some of these proposed cuts and now it is in the House. And the House is changing the proposed cuts to something slightly less drastic. So I think overall, I don't know if it's good news, it's less bad news. So this is once again for the proposed 2026 fiscal year that starts in October. So for example, for NASA, they had proposed initially like a 50% cut. Now it's down to 18%. It's still a ton of money. That's billions of dollars, but it's less worse. Same thing for NSF initially proposed a 50% cut now back to 25, which is still a lot, but less. And then like the cut for the department of energy was rejected. So far, US fish and wildlife, I don't think I had covered, but initially had a proposed 32% cut. This is, you know, the people that overview protected endangered species and things like that, down to 6%. And then we've got the EPA proposed 54%. Now the proposal is 23%. So lots of cuts, smaller than initially, which we had expected. And I think you had commented on that. And now we're just waiting for the House's final vote to see if that's actually going to be the case or maybe it will be less or more. ([Time 0:27:10](https://share.snipd.com/snip/d7af96a1-4e91-4236-b5fe-105ad825c59b)) - **NIH Considers Ending Animal Models** - NIH plans to no longer fund research relying exclusively on animal models, promoting AI and organoids. - This shift creates controversy due to current AI limits and the ethical need for non-animal models, but raises major research challenges. Transcript: Speaker 4 Brewing. It's not something that has happened yet, but it's a debate that could affect future funding. Tell me about this one. Dr. Niki Yeah, let me lay the groundwork for this. So last week at a workshop, one of the interim directors of the NIH announced that from starting then, early July, future funding opportunities would no longer include research that Exclusively uses animal models. So, and that's kind of all we know about this. Instead, they want to encourage new approach methodologies, NAMs as they call them, things like computer modeling and AI, AI not defined in this instance, things like organoids, Which are organs made up of stem cells that are in the lab. If you've ever seen them, they're very cool. They're clear. I think they're really interesting. Speaker 4 So when you say animal models, I'm sure a lot of people thought you meant a like generative model or a computer model i should probably precise yeah i mean like mice explain the difference Dr. Niki Here yeah so like i do goat research so my goats are my animal model model for alzheimer's disease and then there's like mice and rats and those are the most commonly used animal models That we use for drug testing anything from behavioral testing to, I don't know, different genetic lines and all these things that animals are used for in research. NIH wants to reduce, if not eliminate that, although we haven't really been given clarification. Speaker 4 And this applies obviously to actual testing, like you said, but also just observation where you keep some goats around and see what they do, you know, or maybe take a biopsy to see what The DNA is like or whatever. Dr. Niki There's a whole spectrum of what that could be, which is why I find this pretty concerning. Specifically, they didn't give detail on the timeline. They didn't say if it was starting today or in 50 years. Speaker 4 They were just throwing it out there like a bomb. Yeah. Dr. Niki And so what this really affects is what we call NOFO. So these are notice of funding opportunities. So the NIH comes out and says, Hey, we want to fund you for X, Y, and Z. And now from now on, apparently they've started doing this. They can't have one of those that is requesting only animal research. So it leaves some loophole where like, okay, you could do two of your three aims of this grant that are animal research. And one of them is an AI model of the animal or something like, which really just creates more paperwork than, than advancing science personally. Uh, that's how I feel. So that's what it seems to be. And there have been requests in the past. So let's say you wanted to find a new transgenic mouse line that does a really good job of replicating Alzheimer's disease. You'd put out a funding notice to try and get scientists to work on that. They can't do that anymore or they don't want to do that anymore. So that's where we're at. Questions? Speaker 4 Yeah. So what kind of effect would this have? So it obviously is having an immediate chilling effect, but it doesn't actually stop using animal models. I can tell you just from Daily Tech News show that I don't think the computer models we have, while they're very useful, are a replacement for direct observation. And I know you agree with that. What other effects would happen if this were to become the case? Dr. Niki Well, I do want to talk about that. For example, they said AI or computer modeling. This one kind of falls under this like new directives that they have. They want to do a lot more AI research and I'm not sure they know exactly what they mean by AI. Yeah, they're leaving a pretty broad. Right, because with any kind of computer modeling, you can only feed it data that we already know and have collected through research. And they're not capable of coming up with their own new experiments or information. They can tell you, oh, these gaps are missing from what you've told me. So I don't see how an AI, quote unquote, would replace something like a behavioral study where we're looking for things that we don't yet know, which is also how my research works. Speaker 4 I would imagine there are some things with digital twins, which have become very well developed, where you can create a model that is, you know, very close to the same thing as a human Heart, same thing as a kidney. And probably in some simpler animals, you could do the whole animal and we're getting better at those all the time. But again, those are for how the systems work, how the biology works, not the behavior. Dr. Niki Yeah. And AI is really great for doing a lot of manual labor. And we talked about how the latest chemistry Nobel prize was AI related, right? Like they use AI to screen a bunch of drugs against a bunch of proteins. That's a really good AI thing. Take a match B 5 million times and see if any of it works. Right. But that's only, that's, that works because it's math based. If I'm going on my goats and I want to see if exposed to a certain behavior, they develop a certain disease. And I don't know whether it's going to happen or not. AI will also not know whether it's going to happen or not and what it's going to look like. And neither will something like an organoid, which is again, like these like stem cell based organs, which are great for, I want to inject a drug into this heart and see if it beats faster, But not, I don't know what's going to happen. Or we also have like organs on a chip, which is kind of like similar to what you were saying, where they like replicate things that we already know about these models. And I actually overall think it's really great to encourage non-animal models ethically, like animal modeling has its ethical concerns, but we're not really there yet or else we would Already be doing it. That's kind of the point of contention where I'm like, we all want to do this, but we don't have the technology. Speaker 4 It leaves aside a lot of ethical considerations and it's cheaper. Dr. Niki Yeah, it's way cheaper. Yeah. Speaker 4 No, that makes sense. And if you want to continue to make more digital twins, you need to have the actual model, the actual physical model to research off of and test and make sure that it works. So, yeah. So again, but again, this is not something that has happened. It's something that was thrown out and has had real effects. Don't get me wrong, but they, it hasn't been set down yet. So. Dr. Niki Well, apparently all future grant requests going forward will be of this order. Speaker 4 But it wasn't, it wasn't, it's not retroactive. I'm going on what you said earlier, right? It's not a, yeah, it's not an actual directive. Dr. Niki So it's not a directive, but it doesn't have to be. So they can just decide we don't want to request any more animal grants. And that is so far, like we haven't seen any in the last week that have come out requesting only animal grants. Some, ([Time 0:29:42](https://share.snipd.com/snip/52464464-c363-4a27-a86e-08a6a5cb1fef)) - **Battery Charge Limits Extend Lifespan** - Setting phone battery charge limits to 80% extends battery lifespan but reduces performance. - Offering this as an opt-in choice respects user needs between battery health and maximum runtime. Transcript: Huyen Tue Dao Mike writes, in an email you read a few episodes ago, you mentioned that Android's battery settings allow you to charge the battery to a max of 80%. I immediately enabled that on my new Pixel 9a. In my humble opinion, it should be enabled by default, allowing users to opt into overclocking their battery if they want, but extending the useful lives of the devices by default. Degrading battery life is usually the reason I end up buying a new phone nowadays. I wish this ability existed on all battery operated devices. My primary mode of transportation is a one wheel and I live at the top of a very large hill. The one wheel has regenerative braking and if I leave the house with a full charge, the brakes fail because there's no room left in the battery to absorb the energy. I wish it was possible to automatically cut off charging at 80% so I don't have to babysit it as it charges. Mike from Underwater Austin, Texas. Jason Howell That sounds like a risky reason. The brakes fail and you live at the top of the hill. Those two do not compute for me. That's a challenge. Yeah. And to get back to the kind of the phone aspect of this, maybe because I don't know about like setting it to max of 80 by default, like out of the box and then telling people you can overclock. Like my thought instead is maybe add it as part of the onboard experience. Because Pixel, you know, throws a million different screens at you. Do you want to do this? It allows for blah, blah, blah. Do you want to do that? That way people can decide, like, would you prefer extending the life health of your battery or maximum performance? And depending on how you answer that, you know, and it tells you what or why, but that seems like the fairer approach. ([Time 0:39:18](https://share.snipd.com/snip/80c3aa99-b7ed-4d9a-a7e2-e4d33a2821d7))