Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #38 ![rw-book-cover](https://wsrv.nl/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.omnycontent.com%2Fd%2Fprograms%2Fe73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1%2F78d30acb-8463-4c40-a5ae-ae2d0145c9ff%2Fimage.jpg%3Ft%3D1751824393%26size%3DLarge&w=512&h=512) ## Metadata - Author: [[It Could Happen Here]] - Full Title: Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #38 - Category: #podcasts - URL: https://share.snipd.com/episode/f0f14a89-c61e-495f-903a-a1b6ef58a289 ## Document Notes ## Highlights - **Influencers Advising Policy Makers** - Right-wing influencers met at the White House to push an Antifa narrative directly to power. - That meeting risks turning conspiratorial claims into policy and enforcement actions. Transcript: Garrison Davis We're back. I don't know. It feels a little bit weird to be doing this White House weekly episode, knowing that there's actually less White House than usual. There is. Trump has begun demolishing the East Wing of the White House to build a privately funded $250 million ballroom. And I think we should all have a moment of silence for the East Wing. Robert Evans Oh, I was going to say a moment of celebration, because now James's people can finally shake hands with the United States government and destroying large portions of the White House. James Stout Yeah. I saw it was a Volvo excavator, too, so we also got the Swedes on board, I guess. Sure. Couldn't even find an American excavator. Sad. We don't make things in this country anymore. Garrison Davis Yeah, that's because we're still waiting for the tariffs to get fully enacted. James Stout Yeah, once we get that Swedish tariff on. Garrison Davis We are almost four weeks now into the government shutdown, and there's not really a clear end in sight. And SNAP benefits, food stamps, are set to run out in a little over a week on November 1st. Mia, did you want to say something on this? Mia Wong Yeah, so we've been seeing sort of tech ([Time 0:03:31](https://share.snipd.com/snip/61eb2d1f-d747-4189-bd34-3861182c06dc)) - **Misleading Coverage Of ICE Purchases** - Viral reports claiming ICE bought guided missiles and chemical weapons were false. - Contracts show purchases were pepper spray and distraction devices, not warheads. Transcript: Robert Evans Famously, their budget is increased by something like 700 percent. A huge amount of that's being spent on, you know, bonuses in order to get people to join cash payments and whatnot, as well as retention bonuses. But a lot more of it's being spent on weapons. And right now, the number one thing I'm seeing people freak out about is the supposed idea from these documents that ICE is purchasing guided missiles and chemical weapons. I have heard people say this is ICE, which is obviously Trump's SS, you know, making their own Waffen SS, which were the armed units of the SS. I'm seeing a lot of shit like this spread. And as James is going to tell you, none of that's true. Yeah. I mean, the fact that ICE has a massive increase in budget and is buying a shitload of weapons is true, but they're not guided missiles. James Stout ICE doesn't have heat guided missiles. Yeah. We're not getting a death's head ice unit. Garrison Davis Come on. At the next Canal Street ice raid, they're going to be launching heat-seeking missiles into Chinatown. Robert Evans I'm not saying this isn't a problem, but it's not what people are saying it is. Yeah, sorry, James. All right. James Stout The source of this claim is a substack page called Popular Information run by a guy called Judd Legum. And he has claimed in this piece, I'm just going to quote, that I has purchased, quote, chemical weapons and, quote, guided missile warheads and explosive components. I guess the main thrust of the piece was looking at the fact that ICE spent $9 million on Geisly AR pattern rifles. Border Patrol spent more than twice that. He appears to have missed that in his reporting. This reporting is extremely dishonest, to put it mildly. It's either deliberately misleading or massively incompetent. The piece in question doesn't link to the individual contracts, which are like on the face of its bad form, right? If you're going to be talking about contracts, your contracts are in the public domain, just link to them. The piece doesn't do that i went on usaspending.gov and i filtered by contracts that have been awarded by ice i gave a date range uh the date range that pertained to the things being discussed In the article uh and then i filtered by the product or service code for chemical weapons and guided missile warheads right two different product or service codes uh product or service Codes are like these these four digit codes that exist in federal procurement right to put things into buckets basically and i found the contracts the contract very clearly states The uh the guided missile quote unquote contract the contract with the guided missile product or service code very clearly states it is for multiple distraction devices yeah it's A contract with a company called quantico tactical i did call them yesterday something that again any competent reporter should do before publishing a piece uh that does not appear To have been done by the substat guy they gave me an email i sent an email uh more than 24 hours ago requesting comment or clarification i didn't receive a response at the time of us going To press. If I hear back from them before we release this, I will let you all know. The chemical weapons, it was O.C. Spray. It was pepper spray. Right. Robert Evans And a distraction device, by the way, folks, this is something like a sonic grenade, which sounds crazy, but it's a grenade that makes a loud noise to distract people. It's a banger. A flashbang is also a distraction device when used the way that they use in riots. You know, it's a little bit of a different thing when you're using one to like breach bang and clear a door or something. But like when you're throwing a flashbang at a riot, it's a distraction device because the goal is you've got a bunch of people moving towards an area you want to stop them from. You distract them by an explosion. Yeah. And it's distracting. Yeah. Mia Wong It's also and this is, you know, one of the one of the frustrating elements about this is that ice has been using a whole bunch of these to blow down people's doors. It's really horrible. These are problems. Robert Evans It's problems that they're buying all this. And no one is talking about it because everyone's focused on this. When James put up their initial research just on Blue Sky and Twitter, I shared it and people were like, it's still a problem they've got that they're getting all buying all these new Weapons. Do you not care about? Yes, I care about that. You're not talking about that. Yeah, we care about the truth. You're talking about a fantasy. James Stout And like, it is bad that ice has flashbangs and pepper spray, right? I have personally broadcasts. It's bad they exist. You can go back only a few months and hear ICE flashbangs on this podcast, recorded by me in person. We know they fucking have them because they were throwing them at me. Robert Evans Yeah, I've lost count of how many have hit me directly. James Stout Yeah, we've got at least 75% fucking federal government flashbang impact. I want to take a second, I guess, to talk about incentives here because this really pisses me off. And I think that the way we build trust in the media is through openness. And I think that we do that better than most. And I'm going to try and do that here. Just so you know, none of us make any extra money if more people download this podcast, at least not directly, right? We do not have a direct incentive to make fantastical claims that will lead to people downloading our podcast and being afraid. That is not true for people who have these substick outlets, right? Robert Evans I mean, let me clarify. We do have a direct financial interest in there being traffic, right? Because that's how. That's how we make our money, right? Like, and that's how we justify getting raises and stuff. So like everyone in media, if more people listen to our stuff, like we do have a financial interest in that. We're not checking week to week to see if we're getting if what we're doing is bringing us in more direct money, right? Like that's just not the way our thing works. Yeah. James Stout When people are on their own, they're doing these subs, there is a very real incentive to do that, right? We also have a team here. We fact check each other. We do our best. Robert Evans We fuck up sometimes. James Stout Yeah. Yeah, we fuck up sometimes, but we're honest about it when we do, right? We acknowledge it. Robert Evans Yeah, we acknowledge when James makes mistakes. James Stout Thank you, guys. You're the least mistake person here. I'm just being an asshole. Extremely careful about that shit. Well, I've stood on my fucking pedestal enough about this, but... Yeah. It's bad, right? That things that ICE are buying, that ICE is really buying, are semi-automatic ARs, more clocks, a lot of soft body armor, red dot sights, quote-unquote crowd control munitions, right? It's sort of spending you'd see from a special forces unit at a very not special police agency, right? Robert Evans They're just spending like they have an open checkbook. ICE is continuing to buy the same weapons with which they have been hurting people yeah the entirety almost of the 21st century and they're hurting more people now and will be hurting Even more people in the future because they will have even more money and that's bad and you don't like what would they even do with a guided missile it doesn't make sense on the face it's 61 grand. James Stout Yeah. What the fuck do you think you're getting for 61 grand from a company in Quantico? Robert Evans Have you tried buying guided missiles in this economy, people? ([Time 0:09:45](https://share.snipd.com/snip/e1185567-3eb7-451a-9ce3-e9bfa9b24a97)) - **Fact-Check Procurement Claims First** - Verify procurement contracts and call vendors before publishing explosive claims. - Use editors or second readers to catch misinterpreted codes and obvious errors. Transcript: Robert Evans It looks like somebody just fucked up putting in a code. Yeah. We need check on this so we can state it to a point of certainty. James Stout That's what an editor should be doing, right? Yeah. Even if they're responsible journalists, I wouldn't have submitted that piece to an editor without having checked that first. It took me five minutes to call them. I should add that the PSCs in question for grenades and warheads are one digit different right again right which is which is what happened here it certainly looks that way yeah yeah and Robert Evans Again this is the this is why part of how responsible journalism is supposed to work is that you never have just one eye on a story because every journalist will inevitably miss things If you're doing that, right? That's why you are supposed to, the idea is to have multiple eyes on a thing so that, oh, hey, it looks like you skipped over this. Or, hey, it just occurred to me, I have this question that is not being answered. And you make a couple of phone calls, throw in another sentence, and then that's a thing that we're answering, a thing we're accounting for. ([Time 0:18:33](https://share.snipd.com/snip/92f88b36-e4bd-4002-93ca-cd5652ef9143)) - **Artillery Mishap At Marine Birthday** - A 155mm shell prematurely detonated during Marine Corps celebrations, damaging a CHP car. - The mishap disrupted traffic and highlighted risks in large military demonstrations. Transcript: James Stout Talking to the Marine Corps 250th birthday, on Saturday, a 155 shell, 155 millimeter howitzer shell prematurely detonated over the five freeway outside of pendleton right nut stuff Crazy shit damaging a cop car that was assigned to jd vance's security detail it was literally as soon as they started talking about how trump wanted to shoot a missile into fucking camp Robert Evans Pendleton and like immediately yeah they fuck up and blow up a car attached to fucking the vice president's security detail amazing stuff they did a dress rehearsal on friday uh in which James Stout They managed not to detonate any shells over to five gavin newsom decided to shut the frive on saturday probably good call. Yeah, he might be complaining about things shaking. If you're not familiar with the layout there, I would say in most places, as you go to Camp Pendleton, there's a large area that is used by the Marine Corps for training. It has artillery ranges within it. The 5 is the big highway in California. Robert Evans It's the highway that goes the whole length of the state. James Stout Yeah, you would call it the I-5 if you weren't from here, and then we would know that you weren't from here. We call it the 5. There's less than a mile of land to the west of the 5, right? So shooting over to 5, pretty much shooting from the beach or near the beach as opposed to the whole rest of Camp Pendleton, where they have artillery ranges, but they wanted to do it over To five. I think they were doing some kind of simulated landing drill. Not quite sure what the landing drill they were doing, but this resulted in the damage done to a CHP car and really fucked up traffic in probably the entirety of Southern California from Most of last Saturday. ([Time 0:27:15](https://share.snipd.com/snip/d7ffa4b5-1999-4cae-8c8e-ae69a2bcdf10)) - **Treat Public Talks As Recorded** - Assume public events and panels are being recorded and edited. - Dress, speak, and plan actions with the risk of hostile excerpting in mind. Transcript: Robert Evans Different left wing and anarchist groups that are going to be used as pretexts for further crackdowns. I would say it's just a time to be aware of that and be aware of the fact that anytime you are speaking or at a public event where other people are speaking, you should assume that that's Being recorded and that people will be pulling out the worst parts they can from it and trying to use that to destroy people's lives. And I bring that up because there's been a couple of that just really broke today, some potentially pretty high profile examples of this. One of them is that at a panel for Firestorm Books, they had a speaker, a guy named Eric King, who was convicted of a firebombing. He's a left-wing activist. He spent almost 10 years in prison, had a horrific time in prison. I mean, just abused by the system in some of the worst ways possible, and is finally out. And Eric did a talk at Firestorm Books, and he made basically his statement that activists need to hurt them where it counts, saying we can force them to shut the fuck up when it hurts their Wallet enough, or you can find other ways to hurt them. Now, that's not saying anything inherently illegal. Again, he starts it by saying we can force them to shut up when it hurts their wallet enough. That's talking about like boycotts and stuff. Yeah. But the phrase other ways to hurt them is vague enough that it's pretty easy for these guys to to cut stuff out. And I'm I'm I'm looking at a post by a quote unquote investigated analyst for the Manhattan Institute, Stu Smith, who's framing this as known Antifa firebomber calls for escalation. And again, that's not necessarily an accurate look at what Eric was saying, but it's easy to pull stuff out like this from some thing like what appears to have been a fairly open Zoom call That, you know, is not hard for someone to get into and record and pull something out of to try and make the case that someone like Eric should be back in prison or that Firestorm Books is A party, you know, providing material support to an extremist organization. And what I'm not trying to do is say like, and so people should not talk and gather in public because they're going to be doing this. But you need to be aware that anything said at something like this that's in any way open. And even if you try to make it kind of more closed than this, they will try to get people in. This is something that is increasingly going to happen. Just need to be, you can't just kind of hope that they're not paying attention. You have to be aware of the fact that they're out there and they're going to be trying to infiltrate any sort of thing like this they can to get pretexts for further crackdowns. And another recent example of this, Frontline's TPUSA, which is Turning Point USA's, I mean, it's their version of the actual frontline journalism show, but they did an investigation Where they went undercover to the Oakland and Seattle anarchist book fairs, right? And again, there's nothing wrong with doing those book fairs. I'm sure what they're doing here is pulling whatever quotes they could grab from people that sound bad out of context and using them to try to make the case that, again, these are violent Extremist events that need to be cracked down on. And I will reiterate, I'm not saying don't do book fairs. I'm not saying don't show up at events like this. I'm saying if you show up, be aware that stuff like this is going to be happening, that there are going to be people recording, that there are going to be people trying to find what they Can to destroy people who are at these events, and that that's something that needs to be in your threat model, right? In terms of how you dress when you go there, how visible you are, and what you're willing to say around people, right? ([Time 0:36:54](https://share.snipd.com/snip/614416fa-7aaa-45cb-a6c7-1f68acf5e02e)) - **New Phase Of Trade Escalation With China** - The Trump administration sharply escalated export controls and tariff threats against China. - Moves include entity-list expansions, potential 100% tariffs, and software export restrictions. Transcript: Mia Wong Yeah, yeah. So, literally, within 12 hours, I think, of the release at night of our last episode of this show, we got the resumption of the trade war. Yeah. So, specifically, Trump has announced, effectively, the full-scale resumption of the trade war with China. This started kind of out of nowhere, with the Trump administration doing something that I think they didn't think was very provocative because I don't quite think they understood The magnitude of what they were doing. This basically started with the Trump administration massively increasing export restrictions to China by changing the rules of what companies are covered by what's called the Entity List, which is a list of companies that American companies are not allowed to sell goods and services to. The administration moved this to include any company that is 50% or more owned by a company on the export list. We've discussed on the show before that a significant part of the structure of Chinese corporate conglomerates are held together by a bunch of different companies, you know, having Partial ownership by the same holding companies, which is what sort of binds companies and conglomerates together and integrates them into the management structure of the conglomerates. Are partly or completely owned by a holding company run by SASAC, which is the state-owned asset supervision and administration commission of the state council, because every name Of the CCP is like that. So this shift to anything that's 50% or more owned by a company on this list is actually a massive export restriction. And the Chinese government took this as, okay, we're starting the trade war again. So very quickly, there's a whole bunch of tiff or tat things that we're not going to track the order of because they kind of don't matter. But on October 10th, Trump made a Twitter post where he said that he was going to implement a 100% tariff and also a software restriction thing we'll talk about later. Those are supposed to go into effect on the first. He's also been talking in the last week about bringing tariffs up to 150%. We don't have any kind of formal executive order on that. This was to some extent in response to China implementing massive restrictions on the export of rare earth metals. These are crucial to basically any kind of advanced manufacturing, you know, industrial manufacturing applications, everything from chips to electric cars to jet fighters. These are set to take effect on December 1st. I'm going to read this from the New York Times to get an understanding of how large these moves are. China refines 99% of the world's dysprosium, a kind of rare earth metal that is used in chips to preserve magnetic stability even when they become hot. In the last few years, NVIDIA and other semiconductor manufacturers have changed the materials used in electricity management devices called capacitors, which is a really funny Way to describe a capacitor, by the way, but on chips to make them more heat resistant. The capacitors are made from ultra-peer dysprosium, which is extremely difficult to refine. A single refinery in Wuxi near Shanghai produces the entire world's supply. So, per the New York Times, these export restrictions include any good that is produced with these rare earth metals and require foreign companies operating in China, like, for example, Samsung, or any of the sort of South Korean or taiwanese chip manufacturers to acquire export licenses to you know like sell them to any other country that's not china that is a absolutely Massive restriction on export goods and also again a whole bunch of critical minerals that both the american military apparatus relies on and the American tech apparatus relies on. AI chips need a whole bunch of these things. So, you know, in the middle of this process, the U.S. Also started charging Chinese-built ships for docking at U.S. Ports, which China retaliated by imposing docking fees for ships. I'm going to again read from New York Times here. The new rules are the most stringent for Chinese shipping companies, which for the most part cannot avoid the levies. HSBC, an investment bank, estimated that Costco, not that Costco, different one, a large Chinese shipping line could pay $1.5 billion in fees next year, which the bank said could reduce Costco's operating earnings by nearly three-fourths in 2026. Again, it's worth noting that these shipping companies are the backbone of global trade. They also, their margins are not very good, and a significant number of them basically only didn't go under during the lockdowns because they effectively lied on their loan applications And were just sort of putting in their revenue as if the lockdowns weren't happening. So this is all very, very fragile infrastructure that is being, you know, attacked. And these port fees are already in effect. Me doing gay cruising on my european trip yeah i like global trade all right i continue oh god okay um so we also got a report today this is this is wednesday the 22nd this is being reported So who fucking knows what will what will be happening by the time this episode comes out but on wednesday we got a report from Reuters about one of the other options the Trump administration Is considering for these massive sort of trade attacks on China. So I said earlier when I talked about the 100% tariff, Trump also mentioned a software export ban. So per Reuters, what's being considered here, and again, we have very few concrete details about this. This isn't been formally announced. My guess is that it's being leaked to Reuters by the administration, but I just don't know. But what they're considering basically is a version of the sanctions that effectively Biden applied to Russia after the invasion of Ukraine, which restricts the export of any product Made with U.S. Software. This would be probably the most significant development of the entire trade war. And so these are all incredibly significant escalations. A bunch of the stuff is set to go into effect on November 1st, which is very, very soon now in theory trump and xi jinping are supposed to meet at the meeting of the asia pacific economic Cooperation forum in south korea but there's been no formal announcements of their meeting trump said he was going to go to china early next year but that's again next year the american 100 tariff again, November 1st. The Chinese export restrictions on rare earth metals again, December 1st. ([Time 0:50:40](https://share.snipd.com/snip/0a4cc4f6-c0ee-4716-8e28-0f542221fd88)) - **Trade Moves Alienate Farm Base** - Tariffs and bailouts are alienating traditional Republican constituencies like farmers. - Argentina bailout and trade moves upset soybean and cattle producers. Transcript: Mia Wong Very spooky indeed. Yeah. And so Trump is mad also about China refusing to buy American soybeans, the story we've been covering. And he's complaining about the rare earth metal stuff. He's complaining about he's still yelling about fentanyl. But it's also worth mentioning one of the fascinating things is Trump is continuing to piss off even more parts of his base with this stuff. So soybean farmers, which is, again, a huge portion of American farmers, are really mad at him. He's also pissing off cattle ranchers. So both the soybean farmers and the cattle ranchers are mad at Trump for giving a bunch of money to Argentina and not giving them a bunch of money and cutting off their acts to Chinese markets Because Argentina, again, is selling a whole bunch of stuff to China. One of the things that they sell to China is beef because Argentina is a major beef exporter. So they're all really mad at him for giving Argentina a giant bailout in order to try to save their failing economy under their unhinged anarcho-capitalist president who has annihilated The economy even more than it was before. And then Trump's response to the cattle ranchers being mad at him was telling them to lower their prices, which means they're even more mad at him. So he is systematically alienating two of what should be his most important basis of support. ([Time 0:57:37](https://share.snipd.com/snip/f36a4ebf-412f-4795-a6e4-4998565438c3)) - **Extremist Memes Feeding Into Policy** - Republican youth networks show extremist and post‑ironic Nazi references becoming normalized. - Those cultural patterns feed into policy when these members ascend to influence. Transcript: Garrison Davis The politico story that reported leaked messages from the new york young republican telegram chat which already tells you that it's going to be problematic the fact that they have A telegram chat yeah but politico reported that this chat contained messages about putting political opponents in gas chambers loving hitler as well as plenty of anti-Semitism, Talking about raping their enemies, and hundreds of uses of homophobic and racist slurs. The chair of the New York State Young Republicans, Bobby Walker, allegedly called rape epic and wrote in the chat, quote, if we ever had a leak of this chat, we would be cooked, unquote. New York Republican Elise Stefanik first denounced this chat after the report, though later called the Politico piece a quote-unquote hit job. The Matt Walsh side of the online right condemned those who leaked the chats, neglecting to discuss the substance of the chat itself, while Vance largely dismissed the affair, writing On X, the Everything app, quote, I refuse to join the pearl clutching when powerful people call for political violence, unquote. Vance falsely referred to this as a college group chat when key members were as old as 40 years old. A day later, while guesting on The Charlie Kirk Show, J.D. Vance continued to push back on the seriousness of this story and play defense by repeatedly referring to the grown men involved who are in their 20s and 40s as kids and young boys. Speaker 5 Somehow they got their hands on something like 28,000 messages in some group chat of, I think, 12 people that nobody's ever heard of, but they decided to just publish every single thing In this chat, whatever they found that they thought was the most salacious. And I think 10 years ago, there would have been a very different response to it. But people are starting to learn from this, and the vice president is one of the reasons why. I'm sorry, focus on the real issues. Don't focus on what kids say in group chats. Mia Wong But there's another angle to this that I just have to be honest about. I mean, I'm like an old guy at this one. I'm 41 years old. I have three kids. You know, I grew up in a different world, right, where not most of what the stupid things that I did when I was a teenager and a young adult, they're not on the Internet. Like, I'm going to tell my kids, especially my boys, don't put things on the Internet. Like, be careful with what you post. If you put something in a group chat, assume that some scumbag is going to leak it in an effort to try to cause you harm or cause your family harm. But the reality is that kids do stupid things, especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes like that's what kids do. And I really don't want us to grow up in a country where a kid telling a stupid joke, telling a very offensive, stupid joke is caused to ruin their lives. And at some point, we're all going to have to say enough of this BS. We're not going to allow the worst moment and a 21 year old group chat to ruin a kid's life for the rest of time. That's just not OK. Like we live in a digital world. This stuff is now etched in stone online. We're all going to have to say, you know what? No, no, no. We're not doing this. We're not canceling kids because they do something stupid in a group chat. And if I have to be the person who carries that message forward, I'm fine with it. Garrison Davis Right. Once again, most of these guys are like in their 30s. These guys are adults. You know, the New York Young Republicans is not a whole bunch of kids. These are young in like political in political years because everyone who runs the country is quasi-geriatric. Self-proclaimed theocratic fascist Matt Walsh said, quote, the right doesn't stick together. That's our biggest problem by far. Conservatives are quick to denounce each other, jump on dog piles, disavow, attack their allies. I said a few weeks ago that we all need to band together in the wake of Charlie's death. And the answer I got back from a lot of people on the right was basically no. Well, okay then, guys. We'll just lose instead. The left will keep up the united front and defend their guys no matter what, while we keep throwing each other to the wolves at every opportunity. Great plan, unquote. Shapiro did beef a bit with Walsh on one of their Daily Wire group podcasts regarding the substance of these chats. ([Time 1:00:24](https://share.snipd.com/snip/d894c159-3f6b-4a0e-8549-9de09115bb25)) - **Help Alaska Native Climate Victims** - Donate to verified Alaska Native relief funds to help climate-displaced villages. - Prioritize remote-village aid because federal recovery will be slow and logistically hard. Transcript: James Stout The Yukon-Koskokwim River. These are Alaska native villages, and their inhabitants are now climate refugees. At the very start of winter, right, in the coldest place in the United States. These villages are very remote. I spent some time earlier this year in an Alaska native village, not here in the interior, just in the Kwich'in territories. But these guys are really only accessible by small planes or by boats, which will make their recovery even harder. They're people who have lived by the ocean or by the river for as long as people have lived in the Americas, tens of thousands of years. A few months ago, the Trump EPA cancelled a $20 million ground for flood protection, which would have covered Kipnuk, one of these villages. Kipnuk now, functionally, doesn't exist. Houses were torn off their foundations. There multiple videos of people's whole houses floating away. It's not just an instance of neglect or even a single failure here. It's an example of decades of ignoring the voices of indigenous people, especially Alaska natives, when they tell us that the climate crisis is real and that it's already here right When the media looks at climate change uh they tend to want to look at data they can measure in terms of numbers right according to the model of western science but i would argue that the Experience of indigenous people who have lived on the land for as long as human beings have lived anywhere on this continent and have watched the changes and seen this disaster unfold. It should be a warning to all of us that the climate crisis is already here. I reached out to some Alaska native friends to ask where to donate and they shared a page which will be in the show notes of the show. So if you're able to help, I think that's a very important thing to do. ([Time 1:08:29](https://share.snipd.com/snip/38984b68-b1e7-401a-99bf-079157d2ec47))