Move Over Microsoft, Pigeons Use Quantum Mechanics Too -DTNSB-4960  ## Metadata - Author: [[Daily Tech News Show]] - Full Title: Move Over Microsoft, Pigeons Use Quantum Mechanics Too -DTNSB-4960 - Category: #podcasts - URL: https://share.snipd.com/episode/745daed2-4b95-46a7-93d7-c4ecbde0eba0 ## Document Notes ## Highlights - **Oppo Find N5** - Oppo launched the Find N5, the world's thinnest foldable phone when folded. - It's slightly thicker than an iPhone 16 Pro but offers Mac and Windows connectivity. Transcript: Huyen Tue Dao Start with what you need to know with the big story. Oppo launched what appears to be the world's thinnest foldable phone. At least it's thinnest when it's folded up. The Find N5, when closed, is 8.93 millimeters thick. That's just a little thinner than the Honor Magic V3, the previous title holder. It is, in fact, just a millimeter thicker than an iPhone 16 Pro. So it's pretty close and you can't fold. Well, don't fold the iPhone 16 Pro. It's not meant to be folded. When the Oppo Find N5 is unfolded, it's 4.21 millimeters thick, which is real thin, but it's still thicker than the unfolded Huawei Mate XT's trifold, which is actually 3.6 millimeters Thick unfolded. I have no idea how they got the USB-C port to fit in there, but it's a trifold. So when you close it up, it's actually thicker. Slightly concerning about the Find N5 is no dust or dirt protection rating. It is rated against submersion in water and splashing and all that. Has a 5600 milliamp hour battery, so it can last a couple of days on a charge. Also has wireless charging. There's a lot more to say about this phone. So I recommend finding good reviews in Gadget, The Verge, Miriam Joir's Mobile Tech Podcast, whatever your favorite place is, go find the full details. But one notable feature is the ability for this Android phone to connect to a Mac using Oppo's O Plus Connect app. You put both devices on the same Wi-Fi network and you can browse your Mac files on the Find N5 and then transfer them. You can also mirror the Mac's display to your phone. You can find many shots of the foldable in laptop configuration. So you have a tiny little Mac screen up on the vertical display and the keyboard on the horizontal one. That works over the internet. You don't even have to be on the same Wi-Fi for that. And yes, Windows users, you can do it too, but that's been kind of common in Android phones before. This is one of the first attempts to do Mac native to the phone or native to the phone maker's app. There are a lot of third-party ways to do this, but this is the first phone outside of China to include it. Oppo's former corporate sibling, Vivo, offers this on phones running the Origin OS, but you can only get those in China. And speaking of the international wonder that is the Oppo Find N5, let's talk about its price. Official pricing is listed as $2,499 Singapore dollars, which today is the equivalent of about 1500 pounds or close to 1900 US dollars. That's slightly below what the Galaxy Z Fold 6 sells for in Singapore, a little above what the Google Pixel 9 Pro Fold sells for in Singapore, and the currency conversion makes it appear To be more expensive than both. So wait for the pricing in your region to be sure, but it's going to be around the same price. The display crease is also narrow and shallow, making it one of the less visible creases in foldables. And you can't get it in the US. Oppo releases its phones under the OnePlus brand in the US. OnePlus and Oppo are part of the same company. And OnePlus says it won't launch a foldable this year. So you're not getting the Find N5 in the US unless you import it. The Find N5 is launching in Singapore on February 28th. Release dates to come for Europe and the rest of Asia. ([Time 0:02:30](https://share.snipd.com/snip/c184b37a-d43e-4ab2-9bb6-444a214558cb)) - **Japanese Phones** - Huyen Tue Dao bought a Motorola Edge 50 Pro and a rugged Ucatel WP35 in Japan. - The Ucatel has unique features like an IR camera and a toolbox app with specialized tools. Transcript: Huyen Tue Dao A little everything, a little something every time. A little something. I don't know. Speaking of interesting phones around the world though, you just got back from Japan and I know you picked up a couple of phones there you You were talking about an Android faithful to Tell us, give us the teaser real quick before we send people over to Android faithful for the details. What'd you get? Yeah. Tom Merritt So the two models I got, one of them I think is exclusive to, well, exclusive to the U.S., which is the Motorola edge 50 pro. And then I got the Ucatel WP35. So Ucatel WP35, Ucatel makes rugged phones. And so I think the Ucat is the most interesting one, even though the Motorola 50 Edge Pro is probably the one I would actually daily drive. The WP35 is a rugged phone. It weighs 0.8 pounds. So as like a reference, the heavier phones like your Z Fold 6, your Pixel 9 Pro Fold weigh about a half a pound. This thing weighs 0.8 pounds. It's heavy, it's chonky, but it is legitimately a rugged phone. You know, it's IP 6X, 6ix, it's rugged, like the ports have like, you know, like the waterproof cover. It came with his own screen protector and case. And it's a phone for adventuring. It has an 11,000 milliamp battery, which is like twice as big as like pretty much any other phone. And it has it. The software also is so fascinating. I think the software is like my favorite part because it definitely has software that is meant for someone who is who needs a phone, but is roughing it in conditions that are doing things. There's an entire like little folder of apps called, uh, called the toolbox that has things like a plumb bob. And I don't know, is that the right thing with like the string? And there's like a weight on the bottom. It has like a tool for like being able to measure height, like remotely. It has all these little things that are like, yeah, toolboxes. And it even has like a SIM card manager and it has a night vision camera, not night sight, like giving you, you know, higher, uh, you know, resolution pictures, uh, in the dark night vision As in infrared, it has an eight megapixel IR, uh, camera, which I tested in my bathroom. It was very awkward, but also very fun at the same time. So I just think that it's a really good example of an amazing phone that I think for most people will not be practical. It's chonky. It's big, but it is fascinating to see what people are doing with mobile phones. ([Time 0:09:34](https://share.snipd.com/snip/ebc65b39-637f-4717-9e74-aea8ae598e36)) - **NFC FeliCa in Japan** - Japan uses NFC FeliCa, a Sony-enhanced NFC, for transactions and transit. - Android phones from outside Japan don't support it, highlighting regional smartphone differences. Transcript: Tom Merritt So huge. You actually can get it on Amazon for $236. And that's another thing that it's like, it's still like a mid to low, like mid to low and like low range price phone. But yeah, it's, and then the other one I got was a Motorola 50, sorry, Motorola Edge 50 Pro. And, you know, I got these phones because the, there's a thing about Japan and they use, you know, IC cards a lot. And they use, you know, a lot of these IC cards, both in transactions and transit. And if you have an iPhone, you can actually use your iPhone and load up, say a transit card, an IC transit card. Yeah, like a sweet card. Exactly. It's a sweet because the popular one on your iPhone, but you can't on Android. And there's this really interesting, frustrating, but interesting, you know, nuances of different flavors of NFC. Like in Japan, their system uses something called NFC Felica. It looks a lot like Felica, yeah, which is like NFC, but with some Sony security added on top. And this is so interesting because it kind of shows how smart, like the role of smartphones in different countries and how integrated it is in our modern life. A lot of mobile phone providers, for example, like Docomo can actually issue bank cards. So there's a lot of additional security on top of that. So for that reason, Android phones in that are produced outside of Japan do not support NFC Felicia or rather NFC Felicia is required for you to use, say things like Suica and stuff on Your phone. So that was kind of the whole impetus for me to start buying phones in Japan to begin with. But it's, it's just really, it just really fascinating, kind of like this, all the little microcosms that exist in the big smartphone universe and all their little like eccentricities And things like that. Regionalities. Yeah. Like, yeah. Um, I, I learned that 5G bands are different across the globe, which makes sense. So I would love to drive this for a bit just to get a feel for it, but I probably shouldn't go, I don't know, out too far from any big city or out too far into the boonies in case I don't actually Get my 5G. But yeah, no, it was really interesting. I bought them on amazon.co and it was a little bit too easy and I might do it again next time I go because it's just interesting. Yeah, dangerously easy. Very ([Time 0:12:16](https://share.snipd.com/snip/66aeb0df-3932-4b79-878e-f9691e292e4a))