Testing 2025 Prophecies: Emma Stark, Kay Nash & Tomi Arayomi
๐ **Source:** [Testing 2025 Prophecies: Emma Stark, Kay Nash & Tomi Arayomi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWG_a9C5T5g)
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> tags: [prophecy_review, charismatic_theology, biblical_discernment]
> author: Remnant Radio
> source: YouTube
> reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWG_a9C5T5g
> date created: 2024-12-22 15:30
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> # ๐ท๏ธ Title: Testing 2025 Prophecies: Emma Stark, Kay Nash & Tomi Arayomi
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## ๐งฐ Action Inbox
- [H1] Test prophetic words against biblical standards โ demonstrate healthy discernment practices #prophecy
- [H2] Develop local church mechanisms for weighing prophecy โ strengthen community accountability #churchhealth
- [H3] Address theological errors in prophetic interpretation โ correct eisegesis and vague predictions #biblicalaccuracy
## ๐งญ Table of Contents
- [๐ Summary](#-summary)
- [๐ Main Content](#-main-content)
- [๐๏ธ Notes](#๏ธ-notes)
- [๐ References](#-references)
- [๐ฃ๏ธ Paraphrase](#๏ธ-paraphrase)
- [๐ฐ Newsletter](#-newsletter)
- [โ
Action Items](#-action-items)
- [๐งช Hypotheses](#-hypotheses)
- [๐ Methodology](#-methodology)
- [โ Questions](#-questions)
- [๐ฎ Future Research](#-future-research)
- [๐ก Implications](#-implications)
- [๐ง Learning Styles Assessment](#-learning-styles-assessment)
- [๐ Accessibility Assessment](#-accessibility-assessment)
- [๐ DEIB Assessment](#-deib-assessment)
- [โ
Logical Validity](#-logical-validity)
- [๐ก๏ธ DARVO Analysis](#-darvo-analysis)
- [๐ฏ Conclusion](#-conclusion)
### ๐ References
- [Remnant Radio YouTube Channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQQNODi8nstY1xLj4Wc9rWQ)
- [Early Bird Conference Registration](https://theremnantradio.com)
## ๐ Summary
- Remnant Radio hosts review three 2025 prophetic words from Tomi Arayomi, Kay Nash, and Emma Stark
- The panel critiques vague predictions, theological errors, and lack of biblical testing standards
- Key concerns include following geopolitical news rather than revelatory insight, misinterpreting scripture, and promoting spiritual elitism
- The hosts advocate for "making prophecy local again" with character-based accountability
- Overall assessment: These prophetic words fail biblical testing standards through vagueness, inaccuracy, and poor hermeneutics
## ๐ Main Content
The Remnant Radio team conducts their annual review of popular prophetic words for the coming year, examining predictions from three well-known charismatic figures. Their analysis reveals consistent patterns of theological problems in contemporary prophetic ministry.
The hosts establish their framework: they believe in and practice prophecy but insist on biblical testing as commanded in 1 Corinthians 14:29 and 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22. They emphasize that when prophetic words are released globally, the church has a responsibility to evaluate them publicly.
Tomi Arayomi's lengthy word contains predictions about family separations, geopolitical tensions with China and Taiwan, exposures of pharmaceutical conspiracies, and various other claims. The hosts note these either follow existing news cycles or remain so vague as to be unfalsifiable. His specific predictions about England's female leadership and timeline-bound claims about chimera research appear inaccurate.
Kay Nash's word focuses on "crawling victory" based on a misinterpretation of 1 Samuel 14, where Jonathan and his armor bearer attack a Philistine garrison. Nash portrays this as supernatural people falling before Jonathan's mere presence, while the text clearly describes physical combat. She also promotes spiritual elitism by suggesting believers shouldn't share deep spiritual insights with those who haven't performed miracles.
The analysis reveals the Barnum effect in these predictions - vague statements that individuals can apply to their own circumstances, similar to horoscope psychology. The hosts argue this undermines genuine prophetic ministry and creates unhealthy spiritual hierarchies.
## ๐๏ธ Notes
#### โฑ๏ธ [00:00](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=0) โ Welcome and Conference Promotion
- Key idea: Annual prophecy review episode with early bird discount deadline approaching
- Evidence: "December 22nd at the release of this video... you have a whole week, maybe in a couple days to register"
#### โฑ๏ธ [03:45](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=225) โ Establishing Biblical Framework for Testing
- Key idea: Scripture commands believers to test prophetic words, not accept them blindly
- Evidence: "We're testing these in obedience to scripture, not as the arbiters of all things prophecy"
#### โฑ๏ธ [05:30](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=330) โ "Make Prophecy Local Again" Philosophy
- Key idea: Healthy prophetic ministry requires local accountability and character verification
- Evidence: "The prophet, his character is known, his doctrine is known, the way that he cares for his family is known"
#### โฑ๏ธ [07:15](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=435) โ Tomi Arayomi's Prophecy Begins
- Key idea: Wide-ranging word covering family separation, geopolitics, and pharmaceutical exposures
- Evidence: "Let go or I will... Tell the survivors, I am delivering you from your survivors guilt"
#### โฑ๏ธ [12:30](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=750) โ Taiwan and China "Check but Not Checkmate"
- Key idea: Vague geopolitical prediction about China-Taiwan tensions without specificity
- Evidence: "Taiwan, I've heard your prayers... There will be a halting but not a stopping"
#### โฑ๏ธ [15:45](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=945) โ Pharmaceutical and Chimera Research Claims
- Key idea: Predictions about exposing big pharma and human-animal hybrid research
- Evidence: "I will expose... years of violations... How have they mixed a monkey's blood with a humans?"
#### โฑ๏ธ [18:20](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=1100) โ England's Political Upheaval Prediction
- Key idea: Prophecy about female leadership in UK facing Muslim takeover attempt
- Evidence: "Pray for this female leader... your enemy has said, 'I will not rest until I put a Muslim on the throne of the UK'"
#### โฑ๏ธ [22:10](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=1330) โ Analysis of Tomi's Word Begins
- Key idea: Predictions either follow existing news or remain unfalsifiably vague
- Evidence: "So vague that there's no way of knowing that they come to pass"
#### โฑ๏ธ [25:45](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=1545) โ Barnum Effect Explanation
- Key idea: These words function like horoscopes through psychological manipulation
- Evidence: "Vague general personality descriptions... even though they could apply to almost anyone"
#### โฑ๏ธ [28:30](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=1710) โ Kay Nash's "Crawling Victory" Word
- Key idea: Prophecy based on misinterpretation of Jonathan's military victory
- Evidence: "All you need is a crawl... Jonathan crawled before the enemy and they were defeated"
#### โฑ๏ธ [32:15](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=1935) โ Kay's Spiritual Elitism Problem
- Key idea: Nash promotes secretive spirituality and superiority over "unspiritual" people
- Evidence: "Sometimes you can't tell people what you're doing... Some people you just can't tell where you're going"
#### โฑ๏ธ [35:40](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=2140) โ Theological Analysis of 1 Samuel 14
- Key idea: Nash misinterprets combat narrative as supernatural manifestation
- Evidence: "Jonathan and his armor bearer made... killed about 20 men... they fell before Jonathan [through combat]"
#### โฑ๏ธ [38:25](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=2305) โ Discussion on Proper Use of Scripture in Prophecy
- Key idea: Scripture can inform prophecy without eisegetical misinterpretation
- Evidence: "Using scripture is good in prophecy... just don't misexegete the text and make your whole prophecy about that"
#### โฑ๏ธ [40:50](https://youtu.be/YWG_a9C5T5g?t=2450) โ Overall Assessment and Grading
- Key idea: These prophetic words fail biblical standards through various theological and practical errors
- Evidence: "I'd give them an F minus... Nothing there happened"
## ๐ References
- [1 Corinthians 14:29](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2014%3A29&version=ESV)
- [1 Thessalonians 5:19-22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Thessalonians%205%3A19-22&version=ESV)
- [1 Samuel 14:1-23](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Samuel%2014%3A1-23&version=ESV)
## ๐ฃ๏ธ Paraphrase
- The Remnant Radio team reviews popular 2025 prophecies to demonstrate biblical discernment practices
- Tomi Arayomi's word contains vague predictions and claims that either follow news cycles or lack specificity
- Kay Nash misinterprets biblical narratives and promotes spiritual elitism over community accountability
- The hosts advocate for local prophetic ministry with character verification rather than global predictions
## ๐ฐ Newsletter
**Testing Prophetic Words: A Framework for Healthy Discernment**
The charismatic community needs better tools for evaluating prophetic ministry. This week's Remnant Radio analysis of popular 2025 prophecies reveals common problems: vague predictions that function like horoscopes, misinterpretation of biblical texts, and promotion of spiritual elitism.
**Key Takeaways:**
- Scripture commands testing of prophetic words (1 Cor 14:29, 1 Thess 5:19-22)
- Healthy prophecy occurs in local contexts with character accountability
- Beware the Barnum effect - overly general statements that seem personally relevant
**Practical Application:**
Develop church protocols for weighing prophetic words. Train members in biblical hermeneutics. Emphasize local, character-verified ministry over viral predictions.
Resources: [Learn WordPress](https://learn.wordpress.org/), [Developer Docs](https://developer.wordpress.org/), [WP-CLI](https://wp-cli.org/)
## โ
Action Items
#### Community
- Contributors: Develop biblical literacy programs for prophetic discernment training
- Maintainers: Create accountability structures for character verification in prophetic ministry
- Sponsors: Fund theological education resources for healthy charismatic practice
#### WordPress
- Documentation: Develop guides for church websites to handle prophetic content responsibly
- Community: Support charismatic WordPress communities with discernment resources
- Training: Create lesson plans on biblical interpretation and prophetic evaluation
#### The WPCC
- Programs: Fellowship opportunities for charismatic developers seeking theological grounding
- Projects: Documentation sprints for biblical literacy tools and resources
## ๐งช Hypotheses
- National-level prophetic words exhibit lower accuracy rates than local, character-verified prophecy
- Vague prophetic language correlates with higher perceived accuracy through psychological bias
- Communities with formal prophetic testing protocols show healthier spiritual development
- Theological training reduces susceptibility to eisegetical prophetic interpretation
### ๐ Methodology
- Content analysis of prophetic accuracy across local vs. national contexts
- Survey research on Barnum effect susceptibility in charismatic communities
- Comparative study of churches with vs. without formal prophetic accountability
### โ Questions
- How can charismatic communities balance openness to prophetic gifts with necessary discernment?
- What specific training protocols most effectively develop biblical hermeneutical skills?
- How do we distinguish legitimate spiritual insight from psychological manipulation in prophetic ministry?
### ๐ฎ Future Research
- Longitudinal study of prophetic accuracy rates across different accountability models
- Investigation of correlation between theological education and prophetic discernment
- Development of standardized assessment tools for prophetic ministry evaluation
### ๐ก Implications
- Practice: Churches need formal protocols for testing prophetic words rather than passive acceptance
- Policy: Charismatic organizations should establish character verification standards for public ministry
- Education: Biblical hermeneutics training becomes essential for healthy prophetic communities
- Funding: Resources needed for developing discernment training materials and accountability structures
### ๐ง Learning Styles Assessment
Reading level estimate: 12th Grade (technical theological content)
#### ๐ Visual learners
- Present: Video format with multiple speakers and visual reactions
- Improve: Diagrams showing prophetic testing frameworks, flowcharts for discernment processes
#### ๐ Aural learners
- Present: Full audio discussion with multiple perspectives and detailed analysis
- Improve: Shorter audio summaries highlighting key discernment principles
#### ๐ฃ๏ธ Verbal learners
- Present: Detailed explanations, biblical term definitions, theological comparisons
- Improve: Glossary of prophetic terminology, clearer analogies for complex concepts
#### ๐งฉ Kinesthetic learners
- Present: Practical examples, real-world applications, case study methodology
- Improve: Interactive worksheets for prophetic evaluation, hands-on discernment exercises
#### ๐ง Logical learners
- Present: Systematic analysis framework, clear criteria for evaluation, evidence-based conclusions
- Improve: Decision trees for prophetic testing, statistical accuracy tracking methods
#### ๐งโ๐คโ๐ง Social learners
- Present: Group discussion format, community-based evaluation process
- Improve: Discussion guides for church groups, peer review protocols for prophetic words
#### ๐งโโ๏ธ Solitary learners
- Present: Individual reflection prompts, personal application questions
- Improve: Self-assessment tools for prophetic discernment, personal study guides
#### ๐ฟ Naturalistic learners
- Present: Growth metaphors, organic development of discernment skills
- Improve: Seasonal patterns in prophetic ministry, lifecycle thinking about spiritual maturity
### ๐ Accessibility Assessment
#### Screen reader semantics
- Present: Clear heading structure, descriptive content organization
- Improve: Better alt text for visual reactions, more descriptive audio cues
#### Keyboard navigation
- Present: Standard video player controls, logical tab order
- Improve: Timestamp navigation shortcuts, transcript search functionality
#### Contrast and readability
- Present: High contrast video player, clear audio quality
- Improve: Transcript formatting with better visual hierarchy
#### Text resizing and reflow
- Present: Responsive video player, scalable interface
- Improve: Transcript text sizing options, better mobile optimization
#### Media and captions
- Present: Full transcript provided in analysis
- Improve: Professional captions, downloadable transcript formats
### ๐ DEIB Assessment
#### Cultural breadth
- Present: Focus on Western charismatic traditions
- Improve: Global perspectives on prophetic ministry, non-Western discernment practices
#### Inclusive language
- Present: Generally accessible theological terminology
- Improve: More diverse examples, broader cultural references
#### Neurodiversity support
- Present: Multiple communication formats, varied learning approaches
- Improve: Clearer structure markers, reduced sensory overwhelm
#### Representation
- Present: Male-dominated discussion panel
- Improve: More diverse voices in prophetic evaluation, varied cultural perspectives
### โ
Logical Validity
#### Strong reasoning
- Deductive strength: Clear premises about biblical commands leading to testing conclusions
- Inductive strength: Pattern recognition across multiple prophetic examples
- Causal reasoning: Connecting theological errors to practical ministry problems
- Analogical strength: Effective comparison to horoscope psychology (Barnum effect)
#### Fallacies
- Ad hominem: Occasional focus on personal characteristics rather than content analysis
- Hasty generalization: Limited sample size for broad conclusions about prophetic ministry
#### Tone of voice
- Overall tone: Critical but constructive, seeking to improve rather than destroy prophetic ministry
### ๐ก๏ธ
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## Full Transcript
[00:00] Hey everybody, welcome back to the<br>[00:02] wonderful world of Remnant Radio. In<br>[00:03] this program, we're going to be<br>[00:04] reviewing prophecies. It's that time of<br>[00:05] year again, end of year. Uh looking back<br>[00:07] on the 2025 prophecies, you guys stay<br>[00:09] tuned. It's going to be a fun episode.<br>[00:14] Welcome back to the wonderful world of<br>[00:15] Remnant Radio. Hey, uh it is December<br>[00:17] 22nd at the release of this video. I<br>[00:19] think you have a whole week, maybe in a<br>[00:21] couple days to register for the uh<br>[00:24] conference in February to get the early<br>[00:26] bird discount. I mean, you can come day<br>[00:28] of if you want to register. that's<br>[00:29] totally fine. But if you want to get<br>[00:31] that early bird discount, you need to go<br>[00:33] over to uh the remnant radio. You need<br>[00:35] to register for the newsletter and<br>[00:36] you'll get the early bird discount sent<br>[00:38] to you and a promo code. If you're<br>[00:40] already on that newsletter, uh it's<br>[00:41] already coming to you. So you should go<br>[00:43] register while you can get that discount<br>[00:45] because it's totally worth it. Uh I<br>[00:48] mean, who wants to spend extra money?<br>[00:49] Nobody nobody wants to do that. So<br>[00:50] without further ado, I want to introduce<br>[00:52] to my co-host, Michael Miller and<br>[00:53] Michael Roundree. I'll start with you,<br>[00:54] Roundree. How is it over there in<br>[00:56] Oklahoma City?<br>[00:58] Uh, it's really good. I think we're<br>[01:00] expecting like a 70 or 80 degree<br>[01:02] Christmas this year, which it's usually<br>[01:04] not like that. Oklahoma City can get<br>[01:06] pretty cold, but uh, it's supposed to be<br>[01:08] warm this year. Uh, looking forward to<br>[01:10] spending some time with the family. Was<br>[01:11] just, uh, working a little bit on<br>[01:12] Christmas Eve message this morning and<br>[01:14] excited to talk about prophecy today.<br>[01:17] So, Miller, how about you over there in<br>[01:19] Denver?<br>[01:20] >> Did you not do your Christmas message<br>[01:22] this Sunday? I didn't either. I I<br>[01:23] continue preaching. Are you doing the<br>[01:25] Christmas message after Christmas? I I I<br>[01:28] mean I do it all kinds of ways. Like<br>[01:29] last year I did a whole like advent<br>[01:31] series leading up to it. All Christmas<br>[01:34] messages. This year was no Christmas<br>[01:36] messages leading up to it. Sam actually<br>[01:38] preached and did his series on<br>[01:40] Ephesians. And so I'll do Christmas Eve<br>[01:41] and then uh the Sunday after as well. So<br>[01:44] >> well I don't feel too bad then cuz I I<br>[01:46] we have a Christmas Eve service,<br>[01:47] candlelight service, but then my plan<br>[01:49] was I'll do it the Sunday after. But I<br>[01:51] didn't realize until my sermon was<br>[01:53] written most people would probably do it<br>[01:55] before. So anyway, Miller, how are you<br>[01:58] doing? What's your plan with Christmas?<br>[02:00] >> Uh, I did a Christmas Sunday service on<br>[02:04] Sunday and we had our kids children's<br>[02:06] program that sang or did the whole, you<br>[02:08] know, uh, Jesus story uh, acted out by<br>[02:12] the kids, which was hilarious,<br>[02:14] especially the kids that didn't do at<br>[02:16] all what they were supposed to do. Um,<br>[02:19] and, uh, I mean, my sermon was it was<br>[02:22] not great. I I I just didn't feel as<br>[02:25] prepared. Dang.<br>[02:26] >> So, I mean, I have a very forgiving uh<br>[02:30] church, thank thankfully. I mean, there<br>[02:31] were still people that loved it, but I I<br>[02:33] was not pleased with my own sermon. So,<br>[02:36] but uh<br>[02:38] 70 degrees today here. We've got like we<br>[02:40] got warm climate out here. Uh Michael,<br>[02:42] we'll have probably 60s for Christmas in<br>[02:44] Denver, Colorado of all. So, that's kind<br>[02:46] of wild.<br>[02:47] >> What did you ask me, Josh?<br>[02:48] >> I was asking, did you forget what city<br>[02:50] he was born in? I mean, like how how bad<br>[02:52] was it?<br>[02:55] I I just I I think I I scrapped my<br>[02:58] sermon and rewrote it and I just I<br>[03:00] hadn't gone over my notes well enough.<br>[03:01] So, it just didn't flow well. It felt<br>[03:03] like I kept having to pause like uh let<br>[03:05] me find out where I am in my notes,<br>[03:06] guys. And uh oh, hey, here I am. And so,<br>[03:09] you know how that goes. It just didn't<br>[03:10] feel like a good<br>[03:11] >> That's not too bad, though. Okay, I feel<br>[03:13] you. I feel you. The the teaching was<br>[03:14] there. It just uh Yeah, that happens.<br>[03:17] And uh the dyslexic guy gets lost in his<br>[03:19] notes all the time. That's part part for<br>[03:20] the course in MySpace. Uh today we are<br>[03:23] uh talking about uh man prophecy. We're<br>[03:26] doing some reviews. You guys want to<br>[03:27] give some airbags on the conversation of<br>[03:30] prophecy before we dive into some of the<br>[03:33] uh prophecies we're reviewing today?<br>[03:36] >> Uh sure. So we we believe in prophecy.<br>[03:38] We practice prophecy. We all do it in<br>[03:40] our church. Uh we uh we teach in the<br>[03:43] prophetic in our churches and we have a<br>[03:45] lot of prophetic people in our churches.<br>[03:46] And so uh we very much believe in<br>[03:48] prophecy. And part of that is uh is that<br>[03:50] we test prophecy because that's what the<br>[03:52] scripture commands us to do. So uh there<br>[03:54] there's not a world where you believe in<br>[03:56] prophecy but just never test it, at<br>[03:57] least not a biblical world. And so uh<br>[03:59] and so we're testing these in obedience<br>[04:01] to scripture, not as the arbiters of all<br>[04:04] things prophecy. So we're not pretending<br>[04:07] to be some sort of like charismatic<br>[04:10] popery here where we're like uh issuing<br>[04:13] papal decrees upon whether or not these<br>[04:15] prophetic words are right. But when a<br>[04:17] word is released into the public space<br>[04:19] over the entire world or the entire<br>[04:22] church throughout the whole world, uh<br>[04:24] then we as members of that church are<br>[04:26] called upon God to review it and to test<br>[04:28] it. And so we have a platform to do<br>[04:30] that. And so it's appropriate for us to<br>[04:32] do so. But uh I just want you guys to<br>[04:34] know that our posture is we don't we<br>[04:35] don't consider ourselves an authority on<br>[04:37] this. We're just reviewing prophecy as<br>[04:39] the scripture commands. Uh Miller, did I<br>[04:41] miss anything? Anything you would add to<br>[04:43] that?<br>[04:44] Uh, no. Other than I'd say that we<br>[04:47] actually really love these gifts and uh,<br>[04:49] we've all experienced great benefit<br>[04:51] because of these gifts personally and<br>[04:53] seen people in our communities even<br>[04:55] present day uh, experience great benefit<br>[04:57] to it. So, what we're really trying to<br>[04:59] do is um, not just tear other things<br>[05:01] down, but hopefully promote the use of<br>[05:03] prophecy uh, and a healthy model for it<br>[05:06] in the churches um, that are charismatic<br>[05:08] and continuationist. So, God willing,<br>[05:10] we'll move the needle on that even by<br>[05:11] doing these reviews. um despite the fact<br>[05:14] that I find myself every year having a<br>[05:16] lot of negative critiques about the<br>[05:18] words we're seeing, but these really<br>[05:20] we're just pulling some of the most<br>[05:21] popular things that are out there. Um<br>[05:23] which also should tell the world that<br>[05:25] just because something is popular and<br>[05:27] getting views doesn't make it biblical<br>[05:28] or good. Um so I wouldn't say<br>[05:31] necessarily mass consumption is a uh<br>[05:34] criteria for whether or not it's God or<br>[05:36] not.<br>[05:37] >> Yeah. One of the things we like to say<br>[05:38] here on the program, if you're new to<br>[05:40] us, uh we like to say like make prophecy<br>[05:42] local again. That's been one of our<br>[05:44] slogans. We even have hats that you can<br>[05:45] get on the website. Make prophecy local<br>[05:47] again. And the reason we make that<br>[05:48] argumentation, uh is that really for<br>[05:50] prophecy to function the way I I think<br>[05:53] the scriptures intend it to is that the<br>[05:55] prophet, his character is known, his<br>[05:57] doctrine is known, uh the way that he<br>[05:59] cares for his family is known or her<br>[06:01] family. uh and uh that kind of ministry<br>[06:04] can be verified based off of their<br>[06:06] character cuz that's one of the<br>[06:07] criterias that we're given in scripture<br>[06:09] uh is that character. Uh next we're<br>[06:11] commanded to test and weigh prophecies<br>[06:13] and it seems like that takes place<br>[06:14] within the context of a local church. Uh<br>[06:16] 1 Corinthians uh 14:29, 1 Thessalonians<br>[06:19] 5:1 19-22. Uh we're commanded to judge<br>[06:22] and weigh and test these things. Uh<br>[06:24] because these are national level words,<br>[06:26] we're doing it on a national level<br>[06:27] platform. But again, to Michael's point,<br>[06:29] we're not trying to be the judges and<br>[06:31] arbiters of what is true, but we're<br>[06:33] hoping that we can give the charismatic<br>[06:35] space uh mechanisms and some critical<br>[06:37] thinking and to uh hey, this is what<br>[06:40] testing prophecy could look like. So,<br>[06:42] uh, as much as we would, uh, love local<br>[06:44] prophecy more and more and more, I think<br>[06:47] the general consensus of all of us is<br>[06:49] that maybe we would see less and less of<br>[06:51] this national level stuff. Uh, because<br>[06:53] it does feel often times, hopefully not<br>[06:56] all the time, but it does seem often to<br>[06:58] be the case that these prophetic words<br>[07:00] uh are they don't come to pass or<br>[07:03] they're so vague that there's no way of<br>[07:04] knowing that they come to pass. Uh, or<br>[07:06] we're using Jewish horoscopes uh by<br>[07:09] using Jewish calendars to predict the<br>[07:10] future. So those are typically the the<br>[07:12] normal sorts of things that we see this<br>[07:15] time of year.<br>[07:16] >> We managed to like none of the three<br>[07:18] prophetic words that we chose this time<br>[07:20] actually have the Jewish uh numerology<br>[07:23] and the horoscopes and all that<br>[07:25] business. So kind of interesting, but if<br>[07:27] you guys want to dig for it, that stuff<br>[07:28] is definitely out there and it's<br>[07:30] definitely wrong every single year. So<br>[07:33] uh anyway, but this year uh this year we<br>[07:35] have three people and the first one I<br>[07:37] think we're going to do it. Do you say<br>[07:39] it Tomy or Tommy? I don't even know.<br>[07:41] Yeah, Tommy.<br>[07:41] >> T O M I. So,<br>[07:43] >> Ari, I think his last name.<br>[07:46] >> Yeah, Tommy. Ari. So, there you go. All<br>[07:49] right. So, let's uh let's hear him.<br>[07:51] >> Cool. Let's dive in. Uh this has been<br>[07:54] sped up ever so slightly. So, uh you<br>[07:56] have a little gear icon on your YouTube<br>[07:57] video. If you want to slow it down, feel<br>[07:59] free uh to do so. Uh but that's<br>[08:02] >> that's your little cue up for the uh<br>[08:04] people who will criticize us for<br>[08:06] speeding up prophetic words.<br>[08:08] >> Yeah.<br>[08:08] >> But but sorry. It's like 5 minutes long.<br>[08:11] We're not going to subject everyone to<br>[08:12] that. We're going to make it 3.5 minutes<br>[08:14] or something. So,<br>[08:15] >> well, the first one is 6 minutes at sped<br>[08:17] up speed. So, okay. Ready, set, go.<br>[08:20] >> Blessings everybody. Welcome to the 2025<br>[08:22] word of the Lord. The spirit of God<br>[08:23] says, "Let go or I will."<br>[08:25] >> The Lord says, "Tell the survivors, I am<br>[08:27] delivering you from your survivors<br>[08:28] guilt. I will no longer allow you to be<br>[08:29] a captive of regret. For I will say unto<br>[08:31] you, like I said unto Samuel, how long<br>[08:32] will you weep over your souls, seeing I<br>[08:34] have rejected them? For this will be an<br>[08:35] hour where I say my compassion, you are<br>[08:36] not a survivor. You are my remnant and<br>[08:38] I'm calling you to let go or I will for<br>[08:40] your lot is a lot, declares the Lord.<br>[08:42] And I will leave you with this choice in<br>[08:43] 2025. I will put you in your new family<br>[08:45] and you will cry to me saying, "What<br>[08:46] about?" And I will say to you, "Where I<br>[08:48] am taking you next, they cannot come."<br>[08:50] And you will choose, remnant, become<br>[08:52] mine, or return to what has held you<br>[08:53] back from obeying me since my first<br>[08:54] instruction to you. For I have given you<br>[08:56] this season, not to convince them, but<br>[08:58] to grieve. And yet you will say to me,<br>[08:59] "But that is my brother, and this is my<br>[09:01] sister, and this is my friend from my<br>[09:03] youth." And I will say, do not confuse<br>[09:04] where you were born with where you are<br>[09:06] born again. For I will declare like I<br>[09:08] declare to Abraham, get out of your<br>[09:09] father's house. Get away from your<br>[09:10] family and your kindred and go to a<br>[09:12] place that I will show you. For you have<br>[09:13] asked me to bless you and I have said<br>[09:14] that it is already blessed. But you are<br>[09:16] waiting on a God that has been waiting<br>[09:17] on you. And then I saw a chest piece<br>[09:19] laid out on the table and I heard the<br>[09:21] word check but not checkmate. Taiwan,<br>[09:23] I've heard your prayers and the Lord<br>[09:24] says I'm increasing the prayers of<br>[09:25] people around the world in 2025 and I've<br>[09:27] put in check your nation and I will<br>[09:28] declare to the dragon halt. There will<br>[09:30] be a halting but not a stopping. For I<br>[09:32] will have mercy and I will send a<br>[09:34] halting and a check but the Lord says<br>[09:35] not a checkmate. For the sin of the<br>[09:37] eastern dragon has not yet reached its<br>[09:39] full measure. This will be a year of a<br>[09:40] halting of an assignment and you will<br>[09:41] hear demands to halt what have been<br>[09:43] planned since 2020 for 2025. The eastern<br>[09:46] dragon will know that I am he and those<br>[09:47] that they have bound. The Lord says I<br>[09:49] will expose. And not only that, the Lord<br>[09:50] says, "I'm going back to 2018, 2019,<br>[09:52] 2020, and I'm going to uncover years of<br>[09:55] violations. And I will command a spirit<br>[09:56] of pharmarmacia to be exposed and her<br>[09:58] drugging and fentinol and<br>[10:00] over-the-counter medication and COVID<br>[10:01] and antibiotics and vaccines to be<br>[10:02] exposed. And there will be those that<br>[10:04] will say, "Can we reproduce these things<br>[10:05] again in America, for this will be the<br>[10:07] year when my sword will be drawn against<br>[10:08] the spirit of Pharmarmacia, and I will<br>[10:10] set my eyes with rage upon that<br>[10:11] principality. For in 2024, I kept my<br>[10:13] campaign to route out your Jezebel<br>[10:15] media. But in 2025, I will begin a<br>[10:16] campaign to route out your big farmer<br>[10:18] and the witchcraft that has suspended<br>[10:20] her upon many nations. For you will hear<br>[10:22] across three years of many labs and<br>[10:23] chimeraike activity and demonic<br>[10:25] crossbreeding akin to Hitler's secret<br>[10:26] bioexperiments. For I will uncover the<br>[10:28] undergrowth of darkness, and many will<br>[10:30] say, "This is out of a sci-fi or horror<br>[10:31] movie." And others will live as though<br>[10:33] the curtain had not been pulled back.<br>[10:34] Between 2025 and 228, the watches, I<br>[10:36] will pull this curtain back and say,<br>[10:37] "Look what they have been doing. How<br>[10:39] have they mixed a monkeykey's blood with<br>[10:40] a humans? And how have they mixed a dogs<br>[10:41] with a common rat?" Your eyes will not<br>[10:43] believe the things that have been going<br>[10:44] on in secret. It will be a year of<br>[10:46] stunning revelations. As I bring in the<br>[10:48] boomerang season, your eyes will say, "I<br>[10:50] knew it." For there will be some things<br>[10:51] that people will beg not to be exposed<br>[10:53] in the interest of national security.<br>[10:54] But the Lord says, "I will open up cold<br>[10:55] cases going back to the Kennedys. And I<br>[10:57] will say nothing will be concealed that<br>[10:59] will not be revealed. For who has been<br>[11:01] hidden will suddenly come to light.<br>[11:03] Therefore, church, repent and ask me for<br>[11:04] the only thing this exposure will<br>[11:05] regard, and that is my blood. Look and<br>[11:07] see, oh young minister, the changing of<br>[11:08] the guard has begun, and you are now of<br>[11:10] age." What did the Apostle Paul say?<br>[11:12] Once I was a child, I felt like a child.<br>[11:13] I reason like a child, but now I'm a<br>[11:14] man. I'm done with childish things. Wait<br>[11:15] for a generation of leaders have come of<br>[11:17] age, but are not ready for what is to<br>[11:18] come. They have waited for the fathers<br>[11:20] to give them the staff and the rod of<br>[11:21] rulership, but still suckle at the<br>[11:22] breast of fleeting fame, manpleasing,<br>[11:24] and competition among themselves. For<br>[11:26] this will be an unfettered generation,<br>[11:27] but out of it a remnant shall come<br>[11:29] forward. England, your part is stirring<br>[11:30] again, and I will shake those in your<br>[11:32] political houses who thought their<br>[11:33] positions were yet again permanent. For<br>[11:34] you are in a revolution to decide, what<br>[11:36] kind of people do you want to be? For I<br>[11:38] will scream from heaven, "Audit!" And<br>[11:40] you will not bury those you put in<br>[11:42] prison in 2024. For they will say, "We<br>[11:44] were right and we want our rights back."<br>[11:45] Your censorship will cause an unrest<br>[11:47] that will shake those who thought they<br>[11:48] were secure. For you are in the days of<br>[11:50] short reigns until your righteous<br>[11:52] leadership emerges from you. For in<br>[11:53] 2030, your enemy has said, "I will not<br>[11:55] rest until I put a Muslim on the throne<br>[11:57] of the UK." But the Lord says, "Do not<br>[11:59] allow a check to become a checkmate."<br>[12:01] Pray for this female leader. Pray that<br>[12:03] her hands be strengthened. For many in<br>[12:05] her own party will seek her rooting out<br>[12:06] and declare her a foolish woman. But<br>[12:08] this will be your place of intercession.<br>[12:09] For I wish to realign you and steady the<br>[12:11] storm, not cause a further storm. And<br>[12:13] your turbulence is so that my people can<br>[12:15] cry. England is a Christian nation. For<br>[12:17] a ren shall remember her roots when she<br>[12:20] watches her nation being taken over.<br>[12:21] Many will say racism. I will say no<br>[12:23] revolution. The bricks will fall for<br>[12:25] there will be a halting and a check, but<br>[12:27] not a checkmate. A wrecking ball is on<br>[12:29] the loose and 2025 will be a pause to<br>[12:31] get my remnant ready. remnant. You say,<br>[12:33] "How will we be ready?" Not in the job<br>[12:35] you leave, but in the job you come into.<br>[12:36] For your last job was your employment,<br>[12:38] but your next job must be a setup for<br>[12:39] your assignment. Not in the church you<br>[12:41] leave, but in the church you come into.<br>[12:42] For your last church was a convenience,<br>[12:44] but your next church must be your<br>[12:45] covenant. Not in the nation you leave,<br>[12:46] but in the nation you come into. For the<br>[12:48] nation you left was where you grew up.<br>[12:49] For the nation you come into will be the<br>[12:51] nation where you will grow strong. Not<br>[12:52] in the parents you leave, but in the<br>[12:54] parents you embrace. For the parents you<br>[12:55] left were your rocket launcher. But the<br>[12:56] parents you choose now will be your<br>[12:57] propeller. 2024, I say, dig your ditch.<br>[13:00] And many said, "The enemy is burying<br>[13:02] me." And I said, "No, he does not know<br>[13:03] that he was not burying you. He was<br>[13:05] planting you. For you were digging your<br>[13:06] ditches for 2025. I will cause the<br>[13:08] ditches to be filled with water, and<br>[13:10] there will be no rain that you can give<br>[13:12] credit to. For you will know that it was<br>[13:13] I and your staying in the midst of chaos<br>[13:15] that was for a reason." You will see<br>[13:17] that the size of your ditch was<br>[13:18] important to me. You said, "What result<br>[13:20] did we gain from 2024?" And I say unto<br>[13:22] you, "The result of the ditch, for the<br>[13:23] depth of the ditch will determine the<br>[13:25] depth of the filling." And you have<br>[13:26] said, "God is not merciful. He has left<br>[13:27] us here in this ditch." And I say in<br>[13:28] 2025, you will fake me from the ditch. I<br>[13:30] let you and your enemies dig for you.<br>[13:32] For it is become to you a bowl of<br>[13:33] blessing. Launch. How you launch<br>[13:35] matters. For you will see launches and<br>[13:36] rocket launches of nations. But it will<br>[13:38] be a sign to you. Launch. Launch deep,<br>[13:40] not shallow. Launch broad, not narrow.<br>[13:42] Launch big, not small. I am no longer<br>[13:44] blessing your small launches. I will<br>[13:45] only bless deep, broad, and big faith.<br>[13:47] And finally, I saw a vision. And in this<br>[13:49] vision, I saw a a plane like the Boeing<br>[13:51] 747s. And I saw it flying in the same<br>[13:52] turbulence that had been flying in for<br>[13:54] years. But a screw had fallen off of the<br>[13:55] plane. And the spirit of God said to me,<br>[13:56] "It's time to get your screws tightened<br>[13:58] in the month of January for the rest of<br>[13:59] the year will be determined by the<br>[14:00] tightening of the screws, whether the<br>[14:02] plane flies or the plane falls." And<br>[14:03] that means the Lord says, "I am not in a<br>[14:05] season where I am judging, as people<br>[14:07] say." The Lord says, "I'm in a season<br>[14:08] where I'm enforcing the standards that<br>[14:09] always existed." And that means the<br>[14:10] enemy is not going to get any of us for<br>[14:12] anything we knowingly do. It's the<br>[14:13] unknowing sin. It's the unwill sin. It's<br>[14:16] the sin of ignorance. It's the prayers<br>[14:17] of Job, forgive me for my sin knowingly<br>[14:19] and unknowingly. It's those areas that<br>[14:20] we don't know. We are offending God in.<br>[14:22] That are the areas that the enemy is<br>[14:23] going to use as the technicalities to<br>[14:25] open up yearslong cases going back 10,<br>[14:27] 20 years. And the Lord says, "I will<br>[14:28] hold this generation accountable to halt<br>[14:30] what a previous generation called good<br>[14:32] that I call evil." And the spirit of God<br>[14:33] says, "You will see that it is not that<br>[14:35] I am judging. I'm simply enforcing a<br>[14:36] standard."<br>[14:38] >> Wow, that was long, but that was it. Uh<br>[14:40] Toeer left a really funny comment that's<br>[14:42] worth acknowledging. Did y'all hear<br>[14:44] about the raid on the lettuce farm? They<br>[14:47] discovered scientists who were mixing<br>[14:49] lettuce in human DNA. They found human<br>[14:52] Roma.<br>[14:55] >> Well done. Well done, Toer.<br>[14:57] >> That's a great That's a great joke, Dad.<br>[14:59] >> Well done, Toeer. Uh so, uh anybody want<br>[15:03] to start off? Start us off. Uh any<br>[15:06] takers?<br>[15:07] >> Gosh, I I don't even know where to begin<br>[15:09] on this. He said so many things and yet<br>[15:12] I feel like no things. Like I don't like<br>[15:16] it's hard to<br>[15:17] >> say so much but nothing at the same<br>[15:19] time.<br>[15:20] >> Yeah. Um gosh. So I I I made a few<br>[15:23] notes. So uh I'm putting people in new<br>[15:26] families. Leave behind your father's<br>[15:28] house. I mean I mean what could this<br>[15:30] mean? Like how can you prophesy this<br>[15:33] over the entire earth or maybe the whole<br>[15:37] church globally throughout the world? Uh<br>[15:39] that I'm putting you in new families. I<br>[15:41] mean, he seemed to make it spiritual<br>[15:43] families like leave behind your father's<br>[15:46] house. I don't know. I could see people<br>[15:48] if they like really took that to heart,<br>[15:49] taking it the wrong way. Like I I<br>[15:51] remember being in college and there was<br>[15:52] this uh Christianish cultish group on<br>[15:56] campus and they like made people cut off<br>[15:59] their families and that kind of thing.<br>[16:00] I'm like I don't know. I could see<br>[16:02] somebody<br>[16:03] >> Yeah, I could see somebody uh moving in<br>[16:05] that direction if they took this word to<br>[16:07] heart. But it but it's also just so<br>[16:09] vague. I mean what what would you<br>[16:11] practically do with that?<br>[16:13] >> He gives some specifics. He says<br>[16:15] remnants you will say how will this be?<br>[16:17] Uh not in the job you leave but in the<br>[16:19] job you come into for your last job of<br>[16:21] your employment uh but the next job uh<br>[16:24] that's set up for your assignment. Not<br>[16:25] in the church you leave but in the<br>[16:27] church you come into. Uh so he he and<br>[16:30] then he says the same about nations.<br>[16:31] It's not the nations you leave but the<br>[16:32] nation you'll come into. So he says<br>[16:34] leave your family, leave your church,<br>[16:36] leave your job. like he gives some<br>[16:38] pretty specific<br>[16:39] >> your nation, right? A nation.<br>[16:41] >> Hide your wife. Hide your kids.<br>[16:46] >> Uh yeah. So, man, that that's just it's<br>[16:49] not true. That I mean, I'm sorry, that's<br>[16:51] not a prophetic word. And uh yeah, just<br>[16:54] leave your leave your family, your<br>[16:55] church, and your like some people are<br>[16:57] called to stay in their church and stay<br>[16:59] in their and and I'm guessing if Tommy<br>[17:01] was here, he would probably say, "Yeah,<br>[17:03] you know, some people are supposed to<br>[17:05] stay part of their church uh and not<br>[17:07] leave it." And so, but that just raises<br>[17:09] a new question. Then what did it mean?<br>[17:11] Like is this is prophetic and I've seen<br>[17:14] this in charismatic churches where<br>[17:15] prophetic words are kind of thrown out<br>[17:17] into the ether. And I've heard people<br>[17:19] say this, like if it applies to you,<br>[17:21] just reach out and grab it. But like,<br>[17:23] that's not how prophecy is supposed to<br>[17:25] be. It's not like you throw amorphous<br>[17:28] blobs of word salads out into the ether<br>[17:31] and then if it randomly applies to<br>[17:34] random people, then they grab it and if<br>[17:35] it doesn't apply to others, then they<br>[17:37] grab it. I mean, that's how you apply<br>[17:38] horoscopes where a horoscope, you know,<br>[17:40] you look in the newspaper, you look in<br>[17:42] whatever it is you look up horoscopes in<br>[17:44] and you're like, "Oh, okay. Leos,<br>[17:46] they're supposed to be like this and<br>[17:47] they're supposed to do this and so the<br>[17:49] oh yeah, this one really applies to me<br>[17:50] and and and you just reach out and grab<br>[17:53] it and it just has that feel. I don't<br>[17:55] like it. Check but not checkmate. Uh<br>[17:57] man, I had trouble following that that<br>[17:59] word what it really meant. Um<br>[18:01] >> I've got that one written down if you<br>[18:03] need it.<br>[18:04] >> Uh yeah, why don't you just speed read<br>[18:07] or summarize a little bit?<br>[18:08] >> You know, then I saw chess pieces laid<br>[18:10] on the table uh and I heard the word<br>[18:12] check but not checkmate. Taiwan, I have<br>[18:14] heard your prayers. And the Lord says,<br>[18:15] I'm increasing your uh the prayers of<br>[18:18] people around the world in 2025. And I<br>[18:20] have uh I have put your nation in check.<br>[18:23] I will declare to the dragon halt. He's<br>[18:26] clearly talking about China. There will<br>[18:28] be a halting but not a stopping. I will<br>[18:30] have mercy and uh I will send a halting<br>[18:33] and a check, says the Lord, but not a<br>[18:34] checkmate. For the sin of the Eastern<br>[18:36] Dragon has not yet reached its full<br>[18:38] measure. Uh this will be the year of the<br>[18:40] halting of that assignment. and uh you<br>[18:43] will hear the demand uh to halt uh what<br>[18:46] has been planned since 2020. For in<br>[18:48] 2025, the eastern dragon will know that<br>[18:49] I am he uh and that I am the one who<br>[18:52] loosens them whom they have bound.<br>[18:55] What's interesting here is Taiwan and<br>[18:57] China have been at hostility for over 70<br>[19:01] years. Um depending on how you count, it<br>[19:03] could be 75, 76 years. Um but there's<br>[19:06] been no full-scale invasion. And it's<br>[19:08] like any any prediction<br>[19:12] that would be substantive would be say<br>[19:14] this is the year that China invades<br>[19:16] Taiwan. Not this is another year of a<br>[19:19] stalemate because anything that doesn't<br>[19:21] happen will be viewed as a halt.<br>[19:23] Everything that doesn't happen in Taiwan<br>[19:25] would be viewed as not a checkmate but<br>[19:27] just a oh I moved the positions of<br>[19:29] check. Oh there's there's there's<br>[19:31] difficulty for Taiwan because here comes<br>[19:33] China but they're not going to overtake<br>[19:35] you. And I'm like that doesn't like<br>[19:37] that's not helpful. I think anyone could<br>[19:39] have predicted that. Yeah, Taiwan is<br>[19:40] still going to be under, you know,<br>[19:42] scrutiny and uh intense eye of China. Uh<br>[19:46] I think one of the geopolitical reasons<br>[19:48] that is taking place right now, I think<br>[19:50] has a lot to do with microchips, but I'm<br>[19:52] not a big geopolitical guy. Um anyway,<br>[19:56] uh neither here nor there, but China<br>[19:57] wants those, I think.<br>[19:59] >> Yeah. Well, it just seemed like he was<br>[20:01] building off of a lot of things that we<br>[20:03] already know from the news. So, like,<br>[20:06] you know, Trump has made it really clear<br>[20:08] that he's trying to stop uh fentinil and<br>[20:11] he's trying to, you know, he's focusing<br>[20:13] on China, but then also flowing through<br>[20:15] the border of Mexico, which he didn't<br>[20:16] mention, but uh but there was a lot<br>[20:18] about the god of pharmarmacia and the uh<br>[20:22] and big pharma and these kind of things.<br>[20:24] Well, Trump has already promised, you<br>[20:25] know, he's already said he was going to<br>[20:26] do that and he already talked about uh<br>[20:29] focusing on China and that and some of<br>[20:31] his deals uh with tariffs and uh and<br>[20:35] then he also focused a lot on like<br>[20:36] there's going to be a lot of uncovering.<br>[20:38] Man, we've been in the years of<br>[20:39] uncovering like it's just happened every<br>[20:42] year. uh there's been more and more and<br>[20:44] more and and Trump promised he was going<br>[20:46] to release the Kennedy files and you<br>[20:48] know he's prophesying you know the<br>[20:50] Kennedy files are going to be released<br>[20:52] or we're going to find out about Kennedy<br>[20:54] or whatever. Uh and in truth the files<br>[20:56] were released and it it was like a<br>[20:58] nothing burger like there was nothing<br>[20:59] new that people discovered. So in that<br>[21:02] sense it seems like it's actually wrong<br>[21:03] even though it seems like he was<br>[21:05] piggybacking off of news uh what we<br>[21:08] already knew from the news. Same thing<br>[21:09] with the monkey and the human hybrid<br>[21:12] thing that he was talking about. There<br>[21:13] have been stories in the news about that<br>[21:15] for I mean I think dating back to 2020<br>[21:17] 2021. Um<br>[21:19] >> I've got 2016 in here.<br>[21:21] >> Yeah, 2016. So uh yeah. So I I don't see<br>[21:25] it feels like there's a lot of following<br>[21:27] of geopolitical news and that when he<br>[21:29] does step out a little bit like with<br>[21:30] England and a female leader, uh I don't<br>[21:33] know. King Charles seems like a dude.<br>[21:35] And uh and I I don't know of prominent I<br>[21:39] know there are some prominent female<br>[21:40] legislators in the UK, but nobody like<br>[21:42] comes to the front as like the woman<br>[21:44] who's kind of like uh stemming the tide<br>[21:47] of some Muslim leader in the UK. Like it<br>[21:51] I don't know. That one seems like it<br>[21:52] didn't come true at all. So it feels<br>[21:54] like he either follows geopolitical news<br>[21:56] and says basically what has already been<br>[21:59] said would happen or he steps out a<br>[22:01] little bit and it seems like it proves<br>[22:03] untrue<br>[22:04] >> or super vague. Miller<br>[22:06] >> super vague.<br>[22:07] >> Yeah. So, the thing about these kind of<br>[22:10] words where he just throws a bunch of<br>[22:12] stuff on there that's um not specific<br>[22:15] enough to apply to anybody is I can<br>[22:17] imagine somebody out there and I don't<br>[22:19] think this is a hard thing to imagine,<br>[22:21] but I can imagine a number of people<br>[22:23] watching um this quote unquote prophet<br>[22:27] um say things and they go, "Wow, yeah,<br>[22:29] that's totally true. In fact, I did just<br>[22:31] come into a new job and yeah, I I've<br>[22:34] been thinking a lot about, you know, um<br>[22:37] what did he say about like becoming a<br>[22:38] believer? Uh let me see if I can find<br>[22:41] the words. Um<br>[22:44] don't confuse where you were born with<br>[22:47] where you were born again. Like I can<br>[22:49] imagine a lot of people going, "Yeah, I<br>[22:50] I spent so much time, you know,<br>[22:53] concentrating on where I came from and<br>[22:54] haven't spent enough time just thinking<br>[22:56] about who Christ has made me." and they<br>[22:58] they they listen to those words and they<br>[23:00] feel like it's a confirmation of things<br>[23:02] they're already changing in their lives<br>[23:03] and seeing happen. Um, don't be fooled.<br>[23:07] There's a word for this. It's a<br>[23:09] psychological phenomenon called the<br>[23:12] Barnum effect and it's exactly what most<br>[23:15] people experience who read horoscopes.<br>[23:17] They read a horoscope um, you know,<br>[23:19] whatever their particular sign is, maybe<br>[23:21] the Capricorn, and they read it, they<br>[23:23] go, "Yeah, that's totally true. In fact,<br>[23:25] this week I did go through something<br>[23:26] like this, but the words are so vague,<br>[23:28] yet they can somehow tailor them to<br>[23:30] their own lives. Here's the definition<br>[23:31] of this is a psychological phenomenon<br>[23:34] where individuals tend to accept vague<br>[23:36] general personality descriptions as<br>[23:39] having been highly accurate and<br>[23:41] specifically tailored to themselves,<br>[23:43] even though they could apply to almost<br>[23:45] anyone. That's what these words are.<br>[23:48] their words that could quite literally<br>[23:50] apply to anyone or the spec things that<br>[23:53] are semi-specific predictions are things<br>[23:57] that have already been stated were going<br>[23:58] to happen by people who have the<br>[24:00] intentions to make those things happen<br>[24:02] and have the power to do so. So there's<br>[24:05] nothing terribly um let me let me put it<br>[24:08] this way. There is nothing newsworthy<br>[24:10] here. There is nothing in here that that<br>[24:13] that makes me go, "Wow, God is telling<br>[24:15] us something that we could not possibly<br>[24:17] know." Um, which when I look in the<br>[24:19] scriptures, that is what we find. We had<br>[24:21] a um a guy show up in our Facebook uh<br>[24:24] comment section on a prophetic uh word<br>[24:28] that somebody from our conference gave<br>[24:30] that was a personal prophetic word. And<br>[24:31] he says, "There is no such thing as<br>[24:33] personal prophecy in the Bible." Um, and<br>[24:36] I'm sitting here thinking to myself, no,<br>[24:38] that's actually how most prophecy should<br>[24:40] be. Otherwise, you end up with stuff<br>[24:42] like this, where it's so vague and it's<br>[24:45] given to the whole world andor to a<br>[24:48] nation and there's no way to prove it<br>[24:50] one way or the other. Um, maybe there's<br>[24:52] a middle ground to this and I don't want<br>[24:53] to throw that out there, but but that's<br>[24:55] how it feels. I think actually a lot of<br>[24:57] words that are given are given to<br>[24:59] particular people and that's part of the<br>[25:01] reason we say make prophecy local.<br>[25:04] >> Yeah. Like when you read the scripture,<br>[25:06] I mean I it seems to me like the<br>[25:08] majority of prophecies are personal<br>[25:11] individual at least in the New<br>[25:12] Testament. I mean you could make a case<br>[25:14] that from the Old Testament you got<br>[25:15] Isaiah prophesying and others where it's<br>[25:17] like prophecy over you know this nation<br>[25:19] over that nation. And so you definitely<br>[25:21] do see that in the Old Testament. The<br>[25:22] stories you read in first and second<br>[25:24] Kings are often over individuals but<br>[25:26] sometimes over dynasties. uh in the book<br>[25:28] of acts what you see is uh there's a lot<br>[25:31] of personal prophecy personal oriented<br>[25:33] stuff and uh a little bit of bigger<br>[25:35] picture and then in 1 Corinthians 14 the<br>[25:39] big example he shares is personal so I<br>[25:41] just don't think you can make a big<br>[25:42] broad sweeping claim that all prophecy<br>[25:45] needs to be some sort of like national<br>[25:47] prophecy we would say actually I think<br>[25:48] the inverse is true so uh agree with you<br>[25:51] there Miller uh Josh should we queue up<br>[25:53] the next one since we're almost at 4:30<br>[25:56] >> yeah we probably should I I would like<br>[25:58] to just give two or three more things.<br>[26:00] Notice that everything that he states in<br>[26:02] here um that actually has a time marker<br>[26:05] did not happen or uh was expected to<br>[26:09] happen or with the Chimera thing, it'll<br>[26:12] happen between 2025 and 2028. He gives<br>[26:15] himself a huge window when we know for a<br>[26:17] fact that there's a ton of research<br>[26:19] being done on that kind of thing. So uh<br>[26:22] 2016 scientist report uh uh introducing<br>[26:25] human stem cells into pig embryos. In<br>[26:28] 2019 ongoing ethical disputes about NIH<br>[26:32] restriction and funding certain human<br>[26:34] animal chimera experiments especially<br>[26:35] involving brains and reproductive<br>[26:37] tissue. uh 2021 of April, international<br>[26:40] research teams publish uh a a created<br>[26:43] work and again this is in 2021 where<br>[26:46] they mixed a monkey and human uh uh<br>[26:48] embryo uh in in in vitro uh and allowed<br>[26:52] this thing to live 19 to 20 days in some<br>[26:55] kind of womb uh before they destroyed<br>[26:57] these things. But like that kind of<br>[26:59] thing had been happening and has been<br>[27:01] happening. Uh so this is not a you know<br>[27:04] a new feature that's taking place and<br>[27:05] all the stuff that you can say well you<br>[27:08] know uh he didn't give a time marker for<br>[27:10] this he didn't give a time marker for<br>[27:11] that uh ditches launches and screws<br>[27:15] loose you know you got a screw loose you<br>[27:16] got to tighten that screw uh those again<br>[27:19] extreme vague words that can't be<br>[27:21] tested. So the ones that can't be tested<br>[27:24] uh well we just go hey look there's red<br>[27:25] lights and there's going to be green<br>[27:26] lights this year you know as you're<br>[27:27] driving to and from work there's going<br>[27:29] to be red lights and green lights.<br>[27:30] That's not a prophecy. That's a word of<br>[27:31] obvious, right? Um, hey, you've got to<br>[27:34] live holy. Word of obvious. Great. Not<br>[27:36] prophecy. Then you've got this other<br>[27:37] category of I' I've given you some times<br>[27:39] and some specific things. Well, we can<br>[27:41] either know that by the the news. You're<br>[27:44] not giving any new revelatory piece of<br>[27:46] information or the things you've<br>[27:48] predicted did not take place. Um, so I I<br>[27:50] think we have to if we're going to rate<br>[27:52] it, I'd give them an F minus. Um,<br>[27:55] nothing there happened. Um, and I want<br>[27:57] to be charitable, but uh, this is why we<br>[27:59] do this.<br>[28:00] >> I I love though that you qualified it<br>[28:02] with minus. Like, it's not just an F.<br>[28:04] It's a very low F.<br>[28:06] >> Yes. Negative points. I I award you no<br>[28:10] points.<br>[28:12] >> I points.<br>[28:13] >> Hey, God, have mercy on your soul.<br>[28:14] >> Have mercy on your soul.<br>[28:17] >> Billy Madison reference. Yeah.<br>[28:19] >> All the It's like when you miss every<br>[28:20] question on the test and you forget to<br>[28:22] put your name on it, you get a negative<br>[28:24] 10. negative negative points.<br>[28:26] >> That's an F minus.<br>[28:28] >> Okay. Uh let's listen to this next one.<br>[28:30] Uh Ka or sorry, K Nash. Um I want to<br>[28:34] tell the listening audience, it sounds<br>[28:36] like she has a tech, you know, like how<br>[28:37] some people do the like prophecy and<br>[28:39] they're like, you know, oh, hallelujah.<br>[28:41] Or when they're preaching and they just<br>[28:42] kind of have a filler word. Uh she uses<br>[28:44] the name of our Lord as a filler word.<br>[28:46] So, uh she seems to have Jesus<br>[28:49] Tourette's. And I say that with<br>[28:50] kindness, but also for people who are<br>[28:52] very sensitive to taking the Lord's name<br>[28:53] in vain. Um, I don't know how you're<br>[28:56] gonna feel about this, so just heads up.<br>[28:57] >> The word I'm really hearing for 2025 is<br>[29:00] victory, Jesus. Specifically, crawling<br>[29:02] victory, Jesus. I'm gonna go ahead and<br>[29:03] jump right into the word. Here we go. I<br>[29:05] am giving my saints a crawling victory<br>[29:07] where they crawl with what they got and<br>[29:08] I show up. All you need is a crawl. Just<br>[29:11] as Jonathan crawled before the enemy and<br>[29:13] they were defeated, I will show up and<br>[29:14] all you have to do is crawl. Use what<br>[29:16] you got to get ahead, Jesus. And I will<br>[29:18] meet you there. Remember, you do not<br>[29:20] have to do this thing alone. You are not<br>[29:21] alone. I am with you. I am always with<br>[29:23] you. never forsaken you, always<br>[29:25] forgiving you. No matter what you have<br>[29:26] done, some of my children, all they have<br>[29:28] left is a crawl. But the crawl is<br>[29:30] enough. Just like my blood is enough for<br>[29:32] your salvation, my presence is enough<br>[29:34] for your victory. I'm enough for you to<br>[29:36] win. I will knock down these walls. I<br>[29:38] will defeat the enemy. You will win. You<br>[29:40] will win this season. This will be a<br>[29:41] season of victory. But like Joshua, you<br>[29:43] got to hear what I'm saying. Get low and<br>[29:45] know what is going on. Jonathan was<br>[29:47] directed by me. Be directed. Be<br>[29:49] directed. And I will make you mighty<br>[29:50] like Uzziah. This will be a year of<br>[29:52] victory and a year of shaking. Jesus, I<br>[29:54] will deal with pride. Stay low. Love me<br>[29:56] and love my people and you will win<br>[29:58] thoroughly. Victory is yours. You have<br>[30:00] what it takes inside you and I am<br>[30:01] directing you every step of the way.<br>[30:03] Jesus.<br>[30:05] So, I want to kind of jump into<br>[30:06] Jonathan's crawling victory, Jesus. And<br>[30:09] I felt like that was a story in the<br>[30:10] Bible that the Lord was really<br>[30:11] highlighting to me. There was a little<br>[30:12] bit of emphasis on Joshua as well and<br>[30:14] hearing God, but I really felt the Lord<br>[30:16] highlighting Jonathan's crawling victory<br>[30:18] with the Lord Jesus. Sometimes all you<br>[30:19] got left is a crawl. Sometimes just the<br>[30:20] crawl though can be enough. Jesus. Let's<br>[30:22] start out with this. Jonathan was going<br>[30:23] to go into a battle that he wanted to go<br>[30:25] in. Jesus. And he was kind of throwing<br>[30:27] out some signs to see if God wanted him<br>[30:29] to go into this battle or not. Jesus.<br>[30:31] Um, let's go into 1st Samuel 14:2. No<br>[30:34] one was aware that Jonathan had left.<br>[30:36] Listen, Jonathan was going to go into<br>[30:37] battle, but Saul didn't know anything<br>[30:38] about it. Jesus. You know, sometimes you<br>[30:40] can't tell people what you're doing.<br>[30:42] Okay? Jonathan was about to fight a<br>[30:44] battle without telling his dad because<br>[30:45] he knew the type of man his dad was.<br>[30:46] Listen to me. Stop telling everybody<br>[30:48] everything. In 2025, may this be your<br>[30:50] year of keeping your mouth shut before<br>[30:52] people that cannot be trusted with<br>[30:53] things. Okay, listen. Sometimes they<br>[30:54] could be your relatives. They could be<br>[30:56] your friends. They could be your mother,<br>[30:57] your brother, your wife, your hubby,<br>[30:59] whatever. And you can't even trust them.<br>[31:00] Sometimes it's the people in the church<br>[31:02] that you can trust trust more. And<br>[31:02] sometimes it's the opposite. You can't<br>[31:03] trust the people in the church. Use your<br>[31:05] discerning gift, saints of God. If you<br>[31:07] feel that prompting of the Holy Spirit,<br>[31:08] don't tell them. Don't tell them. Why?<br>[31:10] Because you don't know why. Sometimes<br>[31:11] it's not even bad motives. It's that<br>[31:12] they're not at the same level as you.<br>[31:13] Sometimes it's like they might love you.<br>[31:15] They might care about you, but they<br>[31:16] can't see that big. and they're going to<br>[31:18] try to start to tear it down as soon as<br>[31:19] you start going into the new camps, the<br>[31:20] new territory, the new lane you want to.<br>[31:22] And some people you just can't tell<br>[31:23] where you're going. Let them see the<br>[31:24] results. Let them see what God did.<br>[31:26] Don't worry about telling them, Jesus.<br>[31:27] And I love this because Jonathan just<br>[31:28] kind of sneaks out of his family setting<br>[31:30] and goes and has a battle that his dad<br>[31:32] knows nothing about. And Jesus, I think<br>[31:33] he knew who his dad was. And Jonathan<br>[31:35] and David were both also sensitive to<br>[31:37] the Lord. They had discernment. They<br>[31:38] knew what they were doing. They knew who<br>[31:39] to trust and who not to trust. And he<br>[31:41] even knew his own father was not<br>[31:42] trustworthy. Jesus. Supernatural<br>[31:44] victories are not won by unsupernatural<br>[31:46] people. Jesus, supernatural victories do<br>[31:48] not need to be talked about with<br>[31:49] unsupern. Okay? You do not always need<br>[31:51] to be telling people that have no<br>[31:52] supernaturalness to them. They can't<br>[31:54] raise anything to life. They can't cast<br>[31:56] out a devil. They can't heal the sick.<br>[31:57] They can't, you know, bring favor into<br>[31:59] someone's life. They can't read your<br>[32:00] mail. They can't do nothing spiritual.<br>[32:01] And now you're sitting there talking to<br>[32:02] them about spiritual things. Why are you<br>[32:04] doing that? Okay. Why are you doing<br>[32:06] that? You know, I think I've had to<br>[32:07] learn over the years. Some people I just<br>[32:08] I can't talk to them about certain<br>[32:09] things. They just I'm too deep. So,<br>[32:10] let's go continue on to Samuel 14:13.<br>[32:12] This is kind of where I want to get into<br>[32:13] really with us. Um, so Jonathan went<br>[32:15] upon his hands and upon his feet and his<br>[32:18] armor bear after him and some fell<br>[32:20] before Jonathan. Now this is so<br>[32:22] interesting because Jonathan is just<br>[32:23] crawling. Jonathan is just crawling up<br>[32:26] the mountain. And as he's crawling up<br>[32:27] the mountain, the people are falling.<br>[32:29] Jesus. Now his armor bearer then takes a<br>[32:31] sword or whatever and slays the people<br>[32:33] that are left. But people first started<br>[32:35] falling at the presence of the living<br>[32:36] God. Jesus. Jonathan hadn't even pulled<br>[32:39] his sword yet. Just his crawl. Just his<br>[32:41] crawl. and the people fell. Jesus, some<br>[32:43] of you right now, all you have left is a<br>[32:45] crawl. And God's telling you, if you'll<br>[32:46] just crawl from where you are right now<br>[32:47] and crawl to where I show you, I will<br>[32:49] bring in the presence of God and the<br>[32:50] people will fall and the things will<br>[32:52] change just from your crawling<br>[32:53] obedience. SOME OF YOU, YOU HAVE NOTHING<br>[32:54] left from 2024. Jesus, you can barely<br>[32:56] get up from this year. So much crap has<br>[32:58] happened to you this year. You're like,<br>[32:58] God, if another thing happens, I'M GOING<br>[33:00] TO FREAK OUT. AND GOD IS SAYING, IF<br>[33:01] YOU'LL just give me a crawl, if you'll<br>[33:03] just give me a little momentum, if<br>[33:04] you'll just do a little bit more, I'm<br>[33:05] going to breathe on this year. I'm going<br>[33:06] to put my presence on this year, and<br>[33:08] that things will fall into place as they<br>[33:09] are supposed to.<br>[33:13] Well, I'll tell you. Uh,<br>[33:17] I have a lot of ums. In fact, I I edited<br>[33:20] some of Michael Roundree's videos this<br>[33:21] week, and he's he's got a lot of ums as<br>[33:24] like a filler<br>[33:25] >> to to fill. We both I'm I'm just saying<br>[33:28] we we've got it all. We We put some some<br>[33:30] word pauses in our speech. Uh, I don't<br>[33:33] know that I'd want to use<br>[33:36] >> the name of Jesus every time I paused.<br>[33:40] That's not something I I want to do. Uh<br>[33:42] and I'll be honest, that's that was a<br>[33:45] lot. Uh I'll get a word count on that<br>[33:47] here in a second.<br>[33:48] >> I call that charismatic flare.<br>[33:51] >> Yeah,<br>[33:51] >> it's people when they say spiritual<br>[33:54] words, Jesus instinctively is a<br>[33:57] spiritual word by its inherently is a<br>[33:59] spiritual word. Um so it automatically<br>[34:02] adds a little spiritual something to it.<br>[34:05] Uh, at least I think that's how that's<br>[34:07] probably why she's using it and probably<br>[34:09] how her normative audience wherever she<br>[34:11] is would interpret it that they would<br>[34:14] see it as a sign that God is with her. I<br>[34:16] don't see it as a sign of anything. Um,<br>[34:18] other than maybe a little immaturity and<br>[34:20] charismatic religion. Um, I say religion<br>[34:23] in a negative sense.<br>[34:25] >> Yeah, it this prophetic word. I'll let<br>[34:28] Roundtree deal with the exes Jesus here<br>[34:31] in a moment because as we're watching<br>[34:32] the video, I can I can see his visible<br>[34:35] reaction to the crawl language. So, I'll<br>[34:37] let him tackle that in a sec.<br>[34:39] >> Um, but but this idea that again, here's<br>[34:41] a prophetic word for everyone about<br>[34:43] crawling. Um, it doesn't apply to the<br>[34:45] whole world. Uh, that's not how prophecy<br>[34:47] works. It's going to apply to some<br>[34:48] people. It's not going to apply to other<br>[34:49] people. Um, so if there's a a national<br>[34:52] level prophetic word, this is the word<br>[34:53] of the Lord for the new year. How is<br>[34:55] this applying to everyone? uh it doesn't<br>[34:57] it can't not everyone's in this<br>[34:59] situation. Um but I would also say that<br>[35:02] uh you one of the ways that you judge a<br>[35:04] prophet is by character and doctrine.<br>[35:06] Okay. Uh Michael's going to handle the<br>[35:08] doctrine here in a second. Uh when we<br>[35:09] talk about character though on this<br>[35:11] video<br>[35:13] um put aside Jesus as a filler for a<br>[35:15] moment. Uh and say look uh this lady<br>[35:18] tells you you can't share things with<br>[35:20] other people because you're more<br>[35:22] spiritually profound than they are. like<br>[35:24] like she's just too spiritually deep for<br>[35:26] other people. Uh and that's why she<br>[35:28] can't share things cuz she's just<br>[35:29] further along than where they are. Um<br>[35:32] and you know uh what was the other she<br>[35:34] said spiritually? I'm too deep. Oh, they<br>[35:36] haven't healed the sick. They haven't<br>[35:38] raised the dead. Well, I haven't you you<br>[35:42] got a lot of people in your church that<br>[35:43] have raised the dead and like you're<br>[35:44] only sharing these prophetic words with<br>[35:46] dead raisers. That's insane. Uh but if<br>[35:48] if they're they can't prophesy and they<br>[35:49] can't cast out demons, they can't read<br>[35:51] your mail and they can't raise the dead.<br>[35:52] don't share these sorts of things with<br>[35:54] them. Uh I would say that's not what the<br>[35:56] Bible says. Uh the Bible does not say<br>[35:58] that we test and weigh prophetic words<br>[36:00] on our own. The things that God has<br>[36:02] shared us that we internalize that<br>[36:04] because everyone around us is not<br>[36:06] spiritually mature enough to handle it.<br>[36:08] Uh it actually flips that kind of pride<br>[36:10] on its head and says you should actually<br>[36:11] humble yourself and you submit that<br>[36:13] prophetic word for testing and weighing<br>[36:15] to the body of Christ. Um, I I would say<br>[36:18] that this kind of posture towards<br>[36:20] prophetic ministry is going to cause a<br>[36:22] lot of chaos and a lot of harm to the<br>[36:24] body of Christ. It's going to raise up<br>[36:26] self-righteous people who know that they<br>[36:27] hear from God and are unwilling to be uh<br>[36:30] disciplined, unwilling to be<br>[36:32] counseledled, uh, unwilling to be<br>[36:34] instructed by their local body because<br>[36:36] they're going to view their church as<br>[36:37] someone who is spiritually inferior and<br>[36:40] insignificant to their stature. Um, I<br>[36:42] think that's a recipe for disaster.<br>[36:44] Roundry, you want to you want to handle<br>[36:46] any theology?<br>[36:48] >> Yeah. So, uh I'll read the two verses<br>[36:51] where she says that Jonathan and his<br>[36:53] armor bearer were they're just crawling<br>[36:55] along checking out the Philistine camp<br>[36:56] and then suddenly people just start<br>[36:58] dying. And she uses that as her<br>[37:01] prophetic word, as a launching pad to<br>[37:02] say like all you got to do is crawl and<br>[37:04] God will do the rest. Uh but that's a<br>[37:06] misreading of the text. And I I see this<br>[37:09] in charismatic circles sometimes where<br>[37:10] we want to we want to import sort of<br>[37:13] this like hyper supernatural worldview<br>[37:16] as though everything is some grandiose<br>[37:19] charismatic event. And sometimes people<br>[37:22] die in battle because someone chops them<br>[37:25] with a sword and it's not a supernatural<br>[37:27] thing or maybe you know the Lord gives<br>[37:29] them victory in battle but it's it's<br>[37:31] very gritty and that's how this story<br>[37:33] reads. uh verse uh verse 13 and 14 it<br>[37:36] says then Jonathan climbed up on his<br>[37:38] hands and feet. So her version crawled<br>[37:40] and his armor bearer after him and they<br>[37:43] fell before Jonathan and his armor buil<br>[37:45] be bearer killed them after him. So when<br>[37:48] it says they fell before Jonathan it's<br>[37:50] not picturing Jonathan just crawling<br>[37:52] along and people just start falling down<br>[37:54] because of some supernatural<br>[37:57] hypersonic wave that comes through. It's<br>[38:00] picturing Jonathan wounding them and<br>[38:02] then his armor bearer is cleaning up<br>[38:04] after he uh after he wounds them and<br>[38:06] killing them. And that comes becomes<br>[38:08] clear as you keep reading in verse 14.<br>[38:10] And at that first strike which Jonathan<br>[38:12] and his armor bearer made, so it doesn't<br>[38:14] say that like the Lord swept through<br>[38:18] with a hypersonic boom and knocked<br>[38:20] everybody out. No, Jonathan and armor<br>[38:22] bearer made it and themselves it says<br>[38:24] killed about 20 men within it as were a<br>[38:27] half. Anyway, it gives a measurement of<br>[38:29] of land over which they battled. And so,<br>[38:32] uh, and so it very clearly outlines how<br>[38:35] they did it. Now, there is a<br>[38:36] supernatural element to it. If you keep<br>[38:38] reading in verse 15 and following, there<br>[38:40] was a panic in the camp and the garrison<br>[38:42] and the raiders trembled. There was this<br>[38:44] great panic and multitudes began<br>[38:47] dispersing and turning on themselves.<br>[38:49] And that is portrayed as the<br>[38:50] supernatural element of victory. So<br>[38:52] sometimes you can see a both end, but<br>[38:54] she kind of ties her entire prophetic<br>[38:57] word into a hyper charismatic reading of<br>[39:00] tech of a text where it seems really<br>[39:02] clear that that's actually not what's<br>[39:04] happening. And that would seem to uh to<br>[39:08] I guess cast a shadow over the rest of<br>[39:10] her prophetic word.<br>[39:12] I I want this to be reenacted just her<br>[39:16] version like Sid Roth style like just<br>[39:19] someone crawling up a hill and people<br>[39:21] just falling before him and then his his<br>[39:23] guy crawling up behind him and just<br>[39:25] stabbing people and just<br>[39:27] >> they're falling they're getting slain in<br>[39:28] the spirit and he's just<br>[39:30] >> Tommy for Tommy's prophetic word they<br>[39:32] like he talked about the screws loose on<br>[39:34] the airplane. And I have no idea what<br>[39:35] that meant. Like January, don't let your<br>[39:37] screws get loose, whatever that means.<br>[39:40] But like they illustrated it and you saw<br>[39:42] this animated airplane flying through.<br>[39:44] Like that would be awesome to see this<br>[39:46] scene play out animated. It would really<br>[39:49] >> AI is a thing, man. We could do it.<br>[39:50] >> It's a thing, man.<br>[39:52] >> Let me add just a couple things here. Uh<br>[39:55] the other thing that I thought was a<br>[39:57] theological error is the fact that she<br>[39:59] was<br>[40:01] I would say giving a moral therapeutic<br>[40:03] deist uh interpretation of that text. Um<br>[40:08] the way that she interprets uh Jonathan<br>[40:10] crawling and people falling. Um, she she<br>[40:14] uses that as sort of a springboard to<br>[40:16] say, you know, or sorry, she uses<br>[40:18] Jonathan not telling Saul about his<br>[40:20] plans, uh, as a<br>[40:23] teaching to then tell people that you<br>[40:26] don't always tell people your plans and<br>[40:28] and just the question I've got to ask<br>[40:30] is, did the author who included this<br>[40:33] story, was that author intending for you<br>[40:36] to get the message that there are some<br>[40:38] people you don't tell your story to or<br>[40:40] you don't tell your plans too because I<br>[40:43] just don't see that in the text. I don't<br>[40:44] think that's the purpose that the author<br>[40:46] is getting at here. And and while<br>[40:48] there's probably some wisdom in this,<br>[40:50] yeah, you don't share certain things<br>[40:52] with everybody. Um you don't share<br>[40:55] certain secrets with people you can't<br>[40:56] trust. Um I think you can find better<br>[40:58] verses of scripture for that out of the<br>[41:01] Proverbs. Um but she doesn't do that.<br>[41:03] She finds it here in this narrative text<br>[41:05] and sort of creates this um this<br>[41:08] interpretation. And so I I here's a<br>[41:11] prophetic word, but right there you have<br>[41:13] a theological error in how she's uh<br>[41:16] teaching this text. And I guess you<br>[41:18] could say she's giving a prophetic word<br>[41:20] out of it. Um but I would say that it's<br>[41:22] wrong to do that with this text.<br>[41:24] >> Well, uh give me uh some feedback then<br>[41:26] because I I think we've got folks that<br>[41:28] would be on our team that we would have<br>[41:29] zero problem. I I might have even heard<br>[41:32] one of you guys do something similar<br>[41:33] where, hey, this Bible verse came to<br>[41:35] mind. Uh actually uh it happened last<br>[41:38] week. uh Roundtree was like strengthen<br>[41:40] feeble knees that that memory is coming<br>[41:42] to mind. You did say that in a prophecy<br>[41:44] that we reviewed and uh you were like<br>[41:46] this clearly doesn't mean physical in<br>[41:49] the text but I think maybe this is<br>[41:51] something physical that might be going<br>[41:52] on with you. And he's like I lay floors<br>[41:54] for a living and I'm on my knees all the<br>[41:56] time and they're constantly sore and<br>[41:57] he's like I don't have a condition.<br>[41:58] They're not like broke necessarily but<br>[42:00] sure pray. Uh so that was an interesting<br>[42:04] thing. How do we make sense of uh God<br>[42:07] speaking to us by way of prophecy uh if<br>[42:10] that prophetic word then uh is not the<br>[42:14] because I think what's happening here is<br>[42:15] she's saying here's the word of the<br>[42:16] Lord. This is what God told me. And then<br>[42:18] she's going uh and let me execute this<br>[42:21] text. What you did seems different. It<br>[42:23] seems like hey this is how I got a<br>[42:25] revelation. I felt like this is what it<br>[42:27] meant. Obviously that's not what the<br>[42:28] text is saying and you felt comfortable<br>[42:30] saying that on stage. We have a<br>[42:32] recording of it. It was on last week.<br>[42:33] you guys can go watch it. Uh what's the<br>[42:35] difference there and how do we justify<br>[42:38] using scripture in prophecy in that way?<br>[42:41] >> H uh yeah, I mean I think it's I I think<br>[42:45] it's totally fine to frame scripture<br>[42:46] with prophecy. If you're going to do it,<br>[42:48] just don't misexed the text and then<br>[42:51] make your whole prophecy about that.<br>[42:54] That's what I would say. uh you know<br>[42:56] with the guy I I prophesied over him<br>[43:00] about um gosh I'm trying to remember my<br>[43:03] prophecy. I know I pulled in Hebrews<br>[43:04] chapter 12 and strengthen feeble knees<br>[43:07] and uh and felt like but my actual<br>[43:10] exhortation for him actually was rooted<br>[43:12] in the real meaning of that text which<br>[43:15] is to persevere despite pain. And so<br>[43:18] that was the meaning. And then I I said,<br>[43:20] but I also I had kind of like a<br>[43:22] independent of that revelation about his<br>[43:26] knees and he worked on his knees come to<br>[43:28] find out and did have soreness and pain<br>[43:30] in them. And I did feel like the Lord<br>[43:32] was bringing healing there. But I<br>[43:34] verbally gave a cue there like, hey, I'm<br>[43:36] not trying to exedute Hebrews chapter 12<br>[43:39] here. I'm just saying I'm add<br>[43:41] additionally sensing there's something<br>[43:43] going on with your physical needs. And<br>[43:45] uh and so I I it I think using scripture<br>[43:49] is good in prophecy. I just think we<br>[43:52] have to be careful not to misexed it or<br>[43:55] treat the scripture as though it has a<br>[43:57] new meaning for this person that it's<br>[43:59] never had for anyone ever.<br>[44:00] >> I I was in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and a<br>[44:03] similar experience happened. Uh I saw a<br>[44:05] guy toward the front row. When I got up,<br>[44:08] I did some prophecy stuff and when I<br>[44:09] when I gave him a word, um I I got the<br>[44:12] Bible verse. I think it was in Acts 4<br>[44:14] when they stretched forth their hands<br>[44:15] against the apostles, they no they laid<br>[44:17] hands on the apostles and they took them<br>[44:18] into custody. So like sometimes lay<br>[44:20] hands on is like prayer uh and then<br>[44:22] sometimes it's like establishing someone<br>[44:24] in an office and then other times it's<br>[44:26] like you know laying hands on people uh<br>[44:28] physically and repeatedly that kind of<br>[44:29] thing. Um and it seems like that<br>[44:31] happened in that text and that was the<br>[44:33] verse that came to mind and uh so I said<br>[44:36] hey you know I I think there's a couple<br>[44:38] things going on with this this hand<br>[44:39] imagery. This is the Bible verse that<br>[44:40] got to me. I feel like you've had like<br>[44:42] false accusations made against you that<br>[44:44] people have tried to kind of proverbally<br>[44:46] lay hands on you uh and accuse you<br>[44:48] falsely. Uh the guy actually had a<br>[44:50] physical injury in his hand and all the<br>[44:52] other stuff was true. Uh but I told him<br>[44:54] that I feel like God wants to use his<br>[44:55] hands to heal. Um and he told me that he<br>[44:57] was a uh a massage therapist who<br>[44:59] literally uses his hands to heal. So I<br>[45:01] mean it was just it was on target for a<br>[45:03] couple of different things which was<br>[45:04] really interesting. He had a physical<br>[45:06] problem in his body. But I I at the<br>[45:09] front end like you did say I don't think<br>[45:11] this verse is like about you like<br>[45:13] someone's going to take you and put you<br>[45:14] in prison for preaching the gospel. But<br>[45:16] this was the way that I got that<br>[45:17] revelation and I was able to unpack<br>[45:18] that. So we just want to make sure that<br>[45:20] if we're referencing scripture and<br>[45:22] prophecy that we're putting all the<br>[45:23] necessary airbags on that of this is how<br>[45:25] I got this revelation. I'm not teaching<br>[45:28] from it as if this is the authoral<br>[45:30] intent of the scripture. in the same way<br>[45:31] that like God could put a picture of a a<br>[45:33] dragon or a flower or something like<br>[45:35] that in your head. He This was just the<br>[45:37] way I got to the revelation. Um I think<br>[45:40] that's fair.<br>[45:41] >> Yeah. Okay.<br>[45:42] >> I think the the point I was making in<br>[45:43] this is uh if you're misexeding a text<br>[45:47] in the midst of your prophecy, then it<br>[45:49] should cause your whole prophecy to be<br>[45:51] held in suspect.<br>[45:52] >> Question.<br>[45:53] >> Yeah.<br>[45:53] >> Yeah. Questioned.<br>[45:54] >> That's fair. That's fair.<br>[45:56] >> Agree with that.<br>[45:57] >> Okay, gentlemen. Nomatress. We've<br>[45:59] actually reviewed this one uh at the<br>[46:01] beginning of the year. There was a bit<br>[46:02] of a I don't know kurfuffle. Uh Emma<br>[46:05] Stark released a prophetic word for<br>[46:07] 2025.<br>[46:09] Uh but also it was before the election<br>[46:12] was when the original prophecy was<br>[46:13] released. This is a repackaging of that<br>[46:16] prophecy the day after after the<br>[46:18] election after Trump had won. And uh her<br>[46:21] and her team give some kind of insight<br>[46:23] to hey this is what this next season<br>[46:26] looks like. It doesn't feel to me as<br>[46:28] though this is a 2025 word as much as it<br>[46:30] is a uh next four years sort of term uh<br>[46:35] in the US sort of prophecy. Uh but I<br>[46:38] think there's some interesting things. A<br>[46:39] lot of people said, "Hey, you sat with<br>[46:40] us for a year. Do you think that any of<br>[46:42] this is true?" Uh they've been asking.<br>[46:44] So we we'll try to do our best and weigh<br>[46:46] in.<br>[46:46] >> Now, I'm going to go and start with the<br>[46:48] word that I released on Monday about God<br>[46:50] punching Donald Trump in the face. And I<br>[46:52] want to refresh refresh you with that<br>[46:54] word and then we're going to go to Sam<br>[46:55] that God punched Donald Trump Trump in<br>[46:58] the face and his teeth came out and<br>[46:59] there was a lot of blood and that was uh<br>[47:01] quite symbolic of what he represented.<br>[47:03] But the word of the Lord was this. There<br>[47:04] would be a catastrophic time. Check out<br>[47:06] on Monday what I said. There would be a<br>[47:07] catastrophic time of him leading and<br>[47:10] then he would be removed by God because<br>[47:12] he had become the champion of himself<br>[47:15] and Trump fell over. And this<br>[47:17] partnership with unredeemed sex,<br>[47:19] unredeemed power, and unredeemed money<br>[47:21] had opened the door for all sorts of<br>[47:23] evil to be released through him.<br>[47:25] >> And I woke up into the audible voice of<br>[47:27] God announcing this. The reign of chaos<br>[47:30] has begun. The reign of chaos has begun.<br>[47:33] And I was aware of Trump's ascendancy<br>[47:36] into power having a knock-on effect that<br>[47:39] the seven heads of Leviathan were<br>[47:41] unlocked around the world. and that an<br>[47:44] age and a reign of chaos started last<br>[47:47] night as there was a decision and that<br>[47:49] the seven voices of chaos, it was the<br>[47:50] seven heads of Leviathan, the seven<br>[47:52] voices of chaos globally had now been<br>[47:54] unleashed and that as the nations of the<br>[47:56] earth woke up to a new world leader, it<br>[47:59] was more significant than just a person<br>[48:01] in a white house. But there was a<br>[48:02] spiritual ramification where there was a<br>[48:05] unlocking of now a chaos reign that<br>[48:08] we're going to see across every<br>[48:10] continent on the earth that will have<br>[48:11] impact on every nation and on every<br>[48:13] person on the earth. And before I go<br>[48:16] into the details there, we do need to<br>[48:17] have a conversation because people can<br>[48:19] then easily go, "Oh, did I did I vote<br>[48:20] for chaos? Did I vote did I did I vote<br>[48:22] wrong?" And come on, let's not apply<br>[48:24] worldly measurements to this. The word<br>[48:26] of the Lord is not Trump's reign of<br>[48:27] chaos. So, do not misquote it. No one is<br>[48:29] prophesying here that Trump is going to<br>[48:30] reign with chaos. that his election<br>[48:32] triggered something in the spirit realm<br>[48:34] where there was an unlocking of a<br>[48:35] particular chaos. Now I believe that if<br>[48:37] Harris was elected she would have<br>[48:39] released that election not her her<br>[48:40] appointment would have released chaos as<br>[48:42] well but it would have released a chaos<br>[48:44] out of perversion where truth would have<br>[48:45] been perverted sexuality and sex<br>[48:47] perverted all through that h stream of<br>[48:49] things. Now Trump when he was elected he<br>[48:52] released or his election released a<br>[48:54] trigger of a violence and a militarized<br>[48:56] chaos and the seven heads of Leviathan<br>[48:58] that are popping up now around the earth<br>[49:00] are very our military imagery of a<br>[49:02] violence and of a and of a turning on<br>[49:04] one another. It is not the word of the<br>[49:06] Lord Trump's reign of chaos has begun.<br>[49:08] It is the reign of chaos where Leviathan<br>[49:11] has been released at a higher level to<br>[49:13] rule in the nations and to rule through<br>[49:15] world systems. And so we need to look at<br>[49:17] this from a spiritual point of view. We<br>[49:19] are not attacking a man. We are not<br>[49:21] attacking a vote. We are coming as<br>[49:22] prophets who look in the spirit realm<br>[49:24] and want to look for what really is<br>[49:25] going on behind the scenes. And look, as<br>[49:27] we start to see some of these things<br>[49:29] unfold around the world, we are going to<br>[49:31] want to have prophets who are honest<br>[49:32] enough with us to tell us the real the<br>[49:34] spiritual reality of what is actually<br>[49:36] occurring. And we are in the days the<br>[49:38] Lord says where now the reign of chaos<br>[49:40] is going to have impact all around.<br>[49:42] We're going to see the reign of chaos in<br>[49:43] many different parts of the world. Our<br>[49:45] war rooms broadcast will detail it and<br>[49:47] will give specifics, measurable<br>[49:48] specifics of what you will see. But it<br>[49:50] will take form in nations like Russia<br>[49:52] and Iran and China. We are going to see<br>[49:54] it in the USA as as one of the nations<br>[49:57] where chaos is going to rise. The Lord<br>[49:58] actually said to me h that after the<br>[50:00] election, there will be a knee-jerk<br>[50:02] reaction of riots. But there will then<br>[50:04] be a season that seems like peace, but<br>[50:06] it will not last for it will be a false<br>[50:08] peace that comes to America. And then<br>[50:11] chaos will rise on a second wind into<br>[50:15] the term time of uh President Trump. And<br>[50:17] it is at that point where the ecclesia<br>[50:19] will be forced to make righteous<br>[50:21] decisions in their hearts for what sort<br>[50:22] of people they are to be. We will see<br>[50:24] the reign of chaos as I said in Russia<br>[50:27] and particularly unre unleashed to a a a<br>[50:31] different level. And we're looking at it<br>[50:32] in Dubai with money in Malaysia with<br>[50:35] false education. But we now need to<br>[50:37] understand that there is a global a a<br>[50:39] global assignment of the enemy of chaos.<br>[50:41] Therefore, we as the people of God need<br>[50:42] to know what it is to rule over chaos<br>[50:43] and need to know what it is to prophesy<br>[50:45] in the midst of chaotic atmospheres and<br>[50:46] chaotic climates.<br>[50:48] >> So, I think my favorite part about that<br>[50:51] word, this is going to feel bad, is the<br>[50:53] way that Sam says perverted. Uh, I kind<br>[50:55] of want to like take a clip of it and<br>[50:57] turn it into like a ringtone or<br>[50:59] something so that every time that Miller<br>[51:00] texts me, it says perverted.<br>[51:02] >> The word perverted. Just his<br>[51:05] pronunciation is hilarious.<br>[51:07] >> Messed up, bro.<br>[51:08] >> No, I I would only when you call. So, uh<br>[51:12] >> anyway anyway. So, all this to say all<br>[51:14] this to say uh uh<br>[51:17] biggest takeaway that I think that maybe<br>[51:20] the reason people want us to review this<br>[51:22] >> is specifically the statement he makes<br>[51:24] at the end that Sam makes at the end. um<br>[51:27] where it looks like there were some<br>[51:29] early riots that were quickly quelled<br>[51:32] and it looked like there was peace, but<br>[51:34] then you know unrest comes up, you know,<br>[51:37] later in the term. And we did see um<br>[51:40] Trump send in military police, you know,<br>[51:43] uh to occupy and quell certain uh areas<br>[51:47] and regions in our nation. Um which is<br>[51:50] interesting. Um I don't know. And he<br>[51:52] used the language of uprising and<br>[51:53] military force and those kinds of<br>[51:54] things. I go, uh, maybe, uh, could be. I<br>[51:58] do think that some of the prophetic word<br>[51:59] seemed to be extremely grandiose as it<br>[52:02] related to this global catastrophe<br>[52:04] that's taking place in all of these<br>[52:06] nations. Um, that seemed a little<br>[52:08] grandiose for me. Uh, but what are<br>[52:10] y'all's thoughts?<br>[52:12] >> Uh, so I'll jump in here. I've actually<br>[52:16] I've met Sam before uh in Scotland and<br>[52:19] um and we've exchanged a little a few<br>[52:21] DMs uh when we first reviewed this word.<br>[52:26] You know, the the tough thing about this<br>[52:28] is it's really hard to interpret what<br>[52:31] we're saying politically uh in order to<br>[52:34] apply it to Sam's words. Um let me just<br>[52:37] explain why. You know, some would say<br>[52:41] that it's true because ICE, it's chaos.<br>[52:45] Um, but then others on the conservative<br>[52:47] side would say, "No, ICE is helping."<br>[52:50] Um, like I think of the what's happened<br>[52:52] here in Colorado with the Venezuelan<br>[52:54] gangs and how they took over a whole<br>[52:56] apartment complex and people just were<br>[52:57] booted out of their homes and well,<br>[52:59] Trump came into office and sent the<br>[53:02] military in. Guess what happened? Crime<br>[53:04] went down because these crime gangs are<br>[53:07] gone. So it's not chaos there, although<br>[53:10] it might appear to as chaos to some, it<br>[53:12] was actually order that was brought in.<br>[53:15] And so then apply that to all of these<br>[53:18] other things and and you kind of go,<br>[53:19] well, I guess it remains to be seen. Um,<br>[53:22] you know, some people will interpret<br>[53:25] what's happening in our country with<br>[53:27] Trump in particular and his decisions<br>[53:30] incredibly different. And I'm like,<br>[53:32] well, let's just wait and see. That's<br>[53:34] kind of been my perspective this whole<br>[53:35] time. Um, there's a lot that I see that<br>[53:38] I go, "Wow, that's really good." Uh, I I<br>[53:40] experienced it firsthand here in Denver,<br>[53:41] at least. Um, so I I don't know what to<br>[53:44] make of this right now. I can't go. He's<br>[53:47] right that there's chaos that's been<br>[53:49] proliferated. Um, so I don't know. What<br>[53:52] do you guys think on that?<br>[53:54] >> Yeah, I'm just It's kind of hard to<br>[53:56] know.<br>[53:56] >> It's really hard because every season of<br>[53:58] history has chaos. I mean, you know, the<br>[54:00] old song I mean, when was it? The 80s,<br>[54:03] the 70s, what? We didn't start the fire.<br>[54:06] It was always burning since the world<br>[54:08] was burning.<br>[54:09] >> Billy Joel.<br>[54:10] >> Yeah, Billy Joel. And it lists all these<br>[54:12] crazy events that are happening all the<br>[54:13] time.<br>[54:14] >> And we always we always feel like the<br>[54:17] world's on fire because it kind of<br>[54:18] always is. And there's always chaos. Um,<br>[54:21] you know, that said, the scripture does<br>[54:23] have space for an esqueological release<br>[54:26] of supernatural evil. Uh, 2<br>[54:28] Thessalonians chapter 2 speaks of the<br>[54:30] mystery of lawlessness that is always at<br>[54:33] work. And uh when he who restrains it is<br>[54:36] out of the way, then the man of<br>[54:38] lawlessness will rise into power. I<br>[54:40] understand that to be a personal<br>[54:42] antichrist figure. Um but uh sorry, my<br>[54:46] dog's going crazy. Um but uh the so<br>[54:49] there is such a a thing as a restrainer,<br>[54:52] but whatever he's describing doesn't<br>[54:54] sound like that per se. Uh but it's it's<br>[54:58] not a million miles from that what he's<br>[55:00] saying when he says the seven heads of<br>[55:02] the Leviathan. Uh the Leviathan is<br>[55:04] prophesied in Isaiah 27:1. It says, "In<br>[55:07] that day, Yahweh with his hard and great<br>[55:09] and strong sword will punish Leviathan,<br>[55:12] the fle the fleeing serpent, Leviathan,<br>[55:14] the twisting serpent, and he will slay<br>[55:16] the dragon that is in the sea." And John<br>[55:18] will pick up on this language in<br>[55:19] Revelation 12 to speak of the dragon uh<br>[55:23] in the sea. and from the sea. Uh in in<br>[55:26] Revelation 13:1, there's a beast that<br>[55:29] rises up. And just like uh the dragon<br>[55:32] has seven heads. So uh the beast also<br>[55:35] has seven heads. And uh we read in<br>[55:37] Revelation 17, those heads are the same<br>[55:40] as mountains, which are the same as<br>[55:41] kings. And uh mountains representing uh<br>[55:45] like empirical rule. And so, uh, and so<br>[55:48] the symbolism kind of matches up with<br>[55:50] what he's trying to say, but but is is<br>[55:53] that happening? Is there some kind of<br>[55:56] like mystery of lawlessness and<br>[55:58] restrainer that's giving up? I I mean,<br>[56:00] I'm not saying that Sam said that. It<br>[56:02] sounds a little bit like that, but I<br>[56:05] think the struggle that I would have<br>[56:07] with it is that the chaos has always<br>[56:09] been there. uh and uh and I I interpret<br>[56:13] the the dragon and the beast as being in<br>[56:15] partnership all throughout the church<br>[56:17] age although with an escatological<br>[56:18] release that's the worst of all. Um but<br>[56:21] it's just hard it's hard to say. He<br>[56:23] mentions Russia, China, US and Iran and<br>[56:25] man we've been at odds for uh for a<br>[56:28] number of years and uh and it has been<br>[56:30] escalating lately and there are some<br>[56:33] significant flash points between Iran<br>[56:35] and Israel. there's uh flash points<br>[56:37] obviously between Russia and Ukraine and<br>[56:39] what's going on there. So, so there's<br>[56:41] been a lot that's happening. It would<br>[56:43] just be hard to know. And if he's saying<br>[56:45] this beyond just 2025, but this is going<br>[56:48] to be a multi-year roll out. I mean,<br>[56:51] could it be that mass chaos breaks out<br>[56:53] over the rule world of which Satan is a<br>[56:56] big part of? That could definitely<br>[56:58] happen. Has it happened yet? And has<br>[57:01] Donald Trump been punched in the face in<br>[57:02] the way that he that sounds like he's<br>[57:04] removed from power? That obviously<br>[57:06] hasn't happened yet. So, I think we<br>[57:08] could say it hasn't happened yet. Uh<br>[57:11] maybe it'll happen, but I don't have any<br>[57:14] intuition about whether it will or will<br>[57:15] not happen. So, that's a little bit of<br>[57:18] my assessment.<br>[57:18] >> You can't share prophetic words at 300.<br>[57:20] He's just not He's not deep enough to<br>[57:22] like He's He's like Saul and Jonathan.<br>[57:24] Yeah. To perceive it is really what it<br>[57:26] is.<br>[57:27] >> Miller, were you going to say something?<br>[57:28] I was just joking. But I I I've got<br>[57:30] thoughts.<br>[57:31] >> You know, the thing is Sam's like when<br>[57:34] I've interacted with him and and very<br>[57:35] little interaction, he's just a nice guy<br>[57:38] and I I feel bad on some level because<br>[57:42] um if if Sam were at my church, I would<br>[57:44] have never have encouraged him to go on<br>[57:46] a global platform to give this word. Um<br>[57:49] and I feel like in some sense this is<br>[57:52] Emma's responsibility if he on some<br>[57:55] level. um if he ends up regretting this<br>[57:59] or get it bringing scorn on him or<br>[58:02] prophecy uh because of it. Um I just<br>[58:05] want to mention that because he is kind<br>[58:07] of under her toutelage and I think she<br>[58:09] did him a disservice here. Um<br>[58:12] so he said that he heard the audible<br>[58:14] voice of God uh as well on this. man,<br>[58:19] there would have been a whole lot more<br>[58:20] that I would have wanted to see as far<br>[58:22] as signs and confirmations<br>[58:25] uh before I would have ever let somebody<br>[58:28] get on the remnant radio and release a<br>[58:29] prophetic word like this. And so I'm a<br>[58:32] little like<br>[58:32] >> proportions<br>[58:33] >> maybe maybe Sam because I like you uh<br>[58:36] I'm a little angry that Emma let you do<br>[58:38] this and I think she actually needs to<br>[58:40] take responsibility in part if this<br>[58:42] doesn't pan out the way that uh the word<br>[58:44] says it will. Uh I will say one thing<br>[58:46] that I liked. I thought he was really<br>[58:48] careful on the political side of things.<br>[58:50] Uh because a lot of times politically<br>[58:52] people get like they get their<br>[58:59] >> it completely sheds any bit of<br>[59:02] credibility if you're just prophesying<br>[59:04] your own desires. That's what the false<br>[59:06] prophets do all throughout the Old<br>[59:07] Testament. And I think he pretty<br>[59:09] carefully tries to say it's not about<br>[59:11] Trump and you know even if it had been<br>[59:13] Kamla, it's more about the timing of<br>[59:15] things. I I do like that he did that. I<br>[59:17] think he was trying to be responsible<br>[59:18] with it and I appreciated that.<br>[59:20] >> I think I I'm open to this one. I'm just<br>[59:24] going to be honest. Like as much as I<br>[59:26] don't think that some of like the big<br>[59:27] national stuff like every nation is<br>[59:29] going to go through this chaos, I'm I'm<br>[59:31] thinking it's possible. I I I almost<br>[59:33] because I'd like to see one of these<br>[59:35] prophetic words actually stick. Uh but<br>[59:37] then the other part of me also really<br>[59:39] just wants Cindy Jacobs to be wrong. So,<br>[59:42] uh those are the two the two reasons.<br>[59:44] >> Well, because she's been wrong so much<br>[59:46] and we've shown that to be the case and<br>[59:49] maybe we'll do another prophetic word. I<br>[59:50] I sent you guys a prophetic word with<br>[59:52] Cindy Jacobs and a few other of the<br>[59:54] usual suspects<br>[59:55] >> that I think we should do a review on<br>[59:57] maybe next week. But, um yeah, I can<br>[59:59] totally see why that would be the case.<br>[60:01] And when he says Cindy Jacobs, context<br>[60:03] here for those who didn't watch earlier<br>[60:05] in the year when we did our first<br>[60:06] review, um Cindy Jacobs sees herself as<br>[60:09] the apostolic prophetic leader over Emma<br>[60:12] Stark. And that for Emma to release a<br>[60:15] prophetic word, it should have run<br>[60:16] through Cindy and the apostolic<br>[60:19] legion legacy group.<br>[60:22] >> You're going to call it legion.<br>[60:24] >> I don't know. Jeez.<br>[60:27] I just I just try to come up with a word<br>[60:29] that sounds powerful because they make<br>[60:31] themselves out to be so powerful with<br>[60:33] their titles and I find it all rather<br>[60:35] nauseating. So,<br>[60:37] >> and and the difference there is that<br>[60:39] what you would say between Emma's<br>[60:40] relationship with Cindy is that that<br>[60:42] Cindy's got just because she's a<br>[60:45] recognized influential voice in YouTube,<br>[60:47] she doesn't get to tell, you know, Emma<br>[60:49] what she can and can't release. But then<br>[60:51] on the flip side with Sam uh is that Sam<br>[60:54] is a member of her church and is a<br>[60:57] member of her ministry and does have an<br>[60:59] actual like relationship to authority<br>[61:01] there. So uh just waits in in a<br>[61:04] different sense.<br>[61:05] >> Um man I I again I I I'm hopeful again I<br>[61:09] don't want chaos like but I'm at the<br>[61:11] same time just go man uh I'd love for<br>[61:14] >> hopeful for a sevenheaded Leviathan to<br>[61:16] be released<br>[61:17] bro. Yeah. I mean, that kind of sounds<br>[61:20] like<br>[61:21] >> that sounds that sounds like uh like<br>[61:23] Marinatha, you know what I'm saying?<br>[61:25] Like that's come Lord Jesus. That<br>[61:27] shouldn't we all kind of a little bit be<br>[61:29] like, "Yeah, that'd be cool." Uh if<br>[61:31] because that kind of sounds like end<br>[61:33] times stuff. Uh and I'm not saying that<br>[61:34] end times is happening in the next four<br>[61:36] years. In fact, if you were to ask me<br>[61:37] that question directly, I'd say, "Yeah,<br>[61:38] probably not." Um but uh I'm saying this<br>[61:41] is this one for me is not a cased close<br>[61:43] sort of situation. This is a maybe<br>[61:45] still. I think Round Tree might have<br>[61:46] said that earlier, too. We'll see. Uh<br>[61:48] give us another couple years. I I<br>[61:50] haven't seen anything that looks like<br>[61:51] teeth breaking. Nothing that looks like<br>[61:53] mass riots. Uh I c maybe the first half<br>[61:55] which is uh a little bit of riot test<br>[61:57] like activity and then what seems to be<br>[61:59] peace. Uh we shall see. We shall see. Uh<br>[62:03] okay gentlemen. Any other further<br>[62:04] thoughts before we sign off on this one?<br>[62:06] >> Uh are we doing another one next week<br>[62:09] where we review<br>[62:10] >> Okay.<br>[62:10] >> Probably just you and me though cuz<br>[62:11] Roundree<br>[62:13] >> I don't know is going to be this family<br>[62:14] or something. I don't know.<br>[62:15] >> Good man. Was it Christmas?<br>[62:17] >> Take off, bro.<br>[62:18] >> I definitely I I think there are so many<br>[62:20] other words that are worth reviewing<br>[62:22] because uh this stuff just isn't going<br>[62:24] away. And and I'm saying it's all of you<br>[62:26] YouTubers out there who listen to these<br>[62:29] kind of things.<br>[62:30] >> It's because we watch these things that<br>[62:32] these things are still out there and<br>[62:34] populated. If we gave you<br>[62:37] >> are the reason we drink, you are the<br>[62:39] reason we live to forget. That's<br>[62:41] Meredith. That's Meredith Palmer from<br>[62:43] the office. I was just joking.<br>[62:44] >> Oh yeah.<br>[62:47] Like Miller was laughing like why is<br>[62:50] that funny? He doesn't he's like trying<br>[62:51] to figure out where where<br>[62:54] came from.<br>[62:55] >> Yeah.<br>[62:56] >> I just love that you're so deep in like<br>[62:58] office lore that you know Meredith's<br>[63:00] last name. Like who knows Meredith's<br>[63:02] last name?<br>[63:03] >> That's true.<br>[63:04] >> Oh, I know I know all their last names.<br>[63:06] I bet.<br>[63:07] >> Um<br>[63:08] >> All right. What's Stanley's last name?<br>[63:10] >> Hudson.<br>[63:12] Wow.<br>[63:13] >> Yeah. That's impressive. I didn't know<br>[63:15] quickly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah. Andy<br>[63:18] Bernard, uh Meredith Palmer, U Pam<br>[63:21] Beasley, Ben Halpert. Anyway, never<br>[63:24] mind. Uh Bratton,<br>[63:25] >> we digress.<br>[63:27] >> Uh anyway, uh I have very limited set of<br>[63:30] skills and they include some theology<br>[63:32] and mostly pop trivia for The Office.<br>[63:35] Guys, thank you so much for tuning in<br>[63:36] this episode. We will see you next time.<br>[63:37] Uh tune in next Monday from 4:00 to 5:00<br>[63:39] p.m. Central Standard Time and we will<br>[63:41] be discussing uh more prophecy. Merry,<br>[63:44] merry Christmas, by the way.<br>[63:46] >> Merry Christmas. Uh,<br>[63:47] >> yep.<br>[63:48] >> Peace on earth. Goodwill towards men.<br>[63:51] >> Goodwill.
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